Sunday, January 9, 2011

"The awesome stupidity of the calls to tamp down political speech in the wake of the Giffords shooting." Plus, "The Media & The Shooter."

"In Defense of Inflamed Rhetoric"

"The media today, as it begins more expansive reporting, will not let the facts get in the way of making the right, yet again, responsible for violence it neither incited nor enabled."

19 comments:

Anonymous said...

Agree. Don't rein in your insanity.
You'll become irrelevant.

Anonymous said...

Inflamed rhetoric?
From Gateway Pundit:

The media and democrats want us to focus on the nation’s “caustic political climate”after the tragedy yesterday. Maybe they should start with President Obama.
He may be the worst offender.

** Obama: “They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun”
** Obama to His Followers: “Get in Their Faces!”
** Obama on ACORN Mobs: “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”
** Obama to His Mercenary Army: “Hit Back Twice As Hard”
** Obama on the private sector: “We talk to these folks… so I know whose ass to kick.“
** Obama to voters: Republican victory would mean “hand to hand combat”
** Obama to lib supporters: “It’s time to Fight for it.”
** Obama to Latino supporters: “Punish your enemies.”
** Obama to democrats: “I’m itching for a fight.”

If the media really wants to improve the “caustic political climate” they may want to start at the White House.

Words have consequences.

On both sides.

Resist.

AP

Anonymous said...

I, personally, like political speech and inflamed rhetoric.

It's better than the alternative.

So did whoever those silly guys were who wrote the First Amendment, and the other ones...

The fault in this event lies with the person who pulled the trigger. Choices, consequences, and all.

I wonder if 1st Amendment violations will accompany 2nd Amendment violations as a frightened FedGov responds to this in fear and anger.

Thanks for these links, Mike.

Jeff said...

I do not, can not, will not condone the killing of a child - I feel bad for that little girl, her family and friends.

However, politicians - Red or Blue- meh. Bullet, rope...mmmm...that whole oath thingy.....

Anonymous said...

Arctic Patriot

You got it!

Anonymous said...

Well no wonder the sheriff there is quick to point a blaming finger. http://www.tucsonsentinel.com/local/report/010811_loughner_pima

Defender said...

The media like to brag that their mission is "to afflict the comfortable and comfort the afflicted."
Now that those who believe in Bill of Rights values are the ones being afflicted, they say "You might want to put some ice on that."
A parting shot as they gallop toward irrelevance and obscurity.

drjim said...

Thank you, Arctic Patriot, for putting this in the corrrect context.
The left is a whole lot loonier than the right.

Dennis308 said...

A.P.,
it don't count when they do it they are only talking Figuratively, or are they only talking.

Dennis
III
Texas

Bad Cyborg said...

I seem to recall more than a few examples of "inflamed rhetoric" during the 1st 8 years of the last decade. If memory serves there were even thinly (extremely thinly) veiled threats on GW's life. Some of the things said in print or on video or online during that time would be cause for a not-so-discrete knock on the door from the Holder DOJ these days.

From my reading of history, the very WORST of the stuff we hear today would be considered incredibly mild back in the 19th century. And IMS, more than one editorial during the early 1860s called for Lincoln to be run out of town on a rail - OR WORSE.

Oh well, I suppose all we can do is continue to stock up on food stuffs and ammunition and keep our proficiency levels up.

Oh, Mike. Any word on frequencies for Radio Free Alabama? I just bought an emergency radio to receive AM, FM, and several SW bands that can run on internal rechargable batteries, replaceable batteries, an AC adapter, a hand crank, or solar cells. Now when do we get the word?

Bad Cyborg X

Anonymous said...

I knew someone would use this as an excuse to push for more federal gun laws, but as early as tomorrow?

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47338.html

Defender said...

It finally happened. The professional journalists I used to work with discuss on Facebook the Tucson shooting, the death of a niece's roommate in a fraternity house at the hands of a drunk gun owner showing his flashlight attachment, Va. Tech and Columbine.

"Our Constitutional rights are not absolute. We can't yell "fire" in a crowded theater, or slander or libel. Children and many felons can't vote. Felons can't own guns. We can be searched for probable cause (or even without it.) I could go on and on. You're right: the devil is in the details. But we at least need to launch the conversation in earnest, not only about the wisdom of arming the unstable, but also the need/desire for assault weapons and semiautomatic handguns in our society. They're for nothing but killing other human beings."
It goes on like that for 10 more comments. Only one of them seems to question eliminating freedom based on the misconduct of a few.
Why journalists rank lower than used car salesmen in public esteem.

Defender said...

Another one from the same guy, a race and civil rights columnist. One of his most recent columns said "this is the kind of family the city schools need to move back into the city to improve the quality." White, middle-class, working. He's black, so it's not racist when he says it.

"Unfortunately, our Supreme Court has expanded the right to individual gun ownership and eroded govt. restrictions against it. I don't know if there's a tragedy big enough to wrest control of America from the NRA."

We talked about Gandhi and the Dalai Lama once. Gandhi said "Be the change you wish to see in the world. We agreed that that was good. I didn't mention "Of all the deeds the British ... on India, depriving them of arms was the blackest."
And the Dalai Lama saying "If someone were to shoot at you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun"? There was no point bringing it up. A brick would be easier to reason with.

Anonymous said...

Info on the probable mental condition of the shooter:

http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2011/01/of-fascism-and-fanatics.html

A pretty thorough rundown of the "innocence" of the Left(with photos already!):

http://michellemalkin.com/2011/01/10/the-progressive-climate-of-hate-an-illustrated-primer-2000-2010/

J. Croft said...

If the freedom haters are so afraid of some angry words I'll give them just that. I'll give them rhetoric that'll cause em' to be on Depends the rest of their lives-count on it.

And the noise about a internet ID is them imposing a license-they're going to make us ask them permission to exercise what's supposed to be a right. IF this goes through, we will either be silenced in fear of consequence, or silence because of federal consequences. Intolerable!

I'm more pissed off than when BP shit in the Gulf of Mexico last summer...

J. Croft

Anonymous said...

The progressive climate of hate: A comprehensive illustrated primer in 8 parts:

I knew the agenda of hatred would be exposed by their vicious foaming at the mouth without regard to the victims or anything else. Thank you, Michele Malkin.

I. PALIN HATE
II. BUSH HATE
III. MISC. TEA PARTY/GOP/ANTI-TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE HATE
IV. ANTI-CONSERVATIVE FEMALE HATE
V. LEFT-WING MOB HATE — campus, anti-war radicals, ACORN, eco-extremists, & unions
VI. OPEN-BORDERS HATE
VII. ANTI-MILITARY HATE
VIII. HATE: CRIMES — the ever-growing Unhinged Mugshot

http://michellemalkin.com/2011/01/10/the-progressive-climate-of-hate-an-illustrated-primer-2000-2010/

Happy D said...

Lets see a fan of communist Karl Marx,
Friedrich Engels, and national socialist Adolf Hitler's literary works kills people because his Primary target is not left enough and it is somehow it is the right's fault?

Then the Liberal media tries to use it as a second Reichstag fire?

Same old same old.

Anonymous said...

http://thechollajumps.wordpress.com/2011/01/09/jared-loughner-is-a-product-of-sheriff-dupniks-office/

This was not an act of politics. "This was an act of a mentally disturbed young man hell bent on getting his 15 minutes of infamy. The Pima County Sheriff’s Department was aware of his violent nature and they failed to act appropriately. This tragedy leads right back to Sherriff Dupnik and all the spin in the world is not going to change that fact."

Paul X said...

Here's an interview with the armed man, Joe Zamudio, who participated in the takedown:
http://1withabullet.wordpress.com/2011/01/10/concealed-carry-permit-holder-helped-subdue-giffords-shooter/