Friday, February 5, 2016

Utah Fusion Center Warns Cops: Watch Out for Don't-Tread-on-Me Flags

The report includes several "visual indicators" to help police determine whether they're dealing with "extremist and disaffected individuals." These range from images associated with specific political groups, such as the Oath Keepers and Three Percenters, to a more generic patriotic symbol, the Gadsden flag—a famous Revolutionary War banner featuring a coiled rattlesnake and the slogan "Don't Tread on Me."

23 comments:

Anonymous said...

Like your post "III We Are Everywhere", well, we ARE everywhere. If we're smart we don't need a sticker on the car broadcasting who we are. A little subterfuge goes a long way. Hey, I'm just little Jane from Spokane, the girl next door, that's me. Until I need to be who I really am. Did the French resistance have a sticker on the back of their cars? You want to put up stickers do what I do - go out at 4am and put up bumper stickers on stop signs and other publicly owned places. People will read them, don't worry. Be the wolf in sheep's clothing.

Steve Ramsey said...

The machine feels threatened.
The machine is spinning up into self preservation mode.

Configured as such, it's a danger to everyone who isn't a cog therein. Every man, woman and child. No matter who you are or what you believe.

Anonymous said...

I's wants one of dem LaVoy III% stickers, don't ya know!

Anonymous said...

These flags need to go up in mass, to flood the monitors with "white noise"

Nemesis said...

Good police officers will always determine the demeanour of the person they may have to confront by his/her body language, crazy eyes and/or intoxication and aggressive behaviour or a combination of some or all of those 'signals', but never on what they may happen to be wearing or displaying by way of clothing or flags.

If officers are now being taught that the waving of particular flags marks the bearer as some kind of extremist despite his/her peaceful behaviour, then you no longer have well trained and independent thinking (use of discretion) police officers.

Mike, as your time draws nearer there is a book you may wish to look up that may give you more peace of mind. It is titled, Many Lives, Many Masters by Jim B. Tucker, M.D. It may answer a lot of unanswered questions for you.

Anonymous said...

When Janet Napalitano isued a similar directive, the following day I had a letter to the editor about gun rights published in the paper (it was already submitted) I was pulled over and the very first question I was asked ? "Any firearms int he vehicle?" To which I responded No, and that is some more of your business, ain't it, now what did you pull me over for? I was pissed. After getting a warning ticket for too loud of a stereo (ummm it was factory installed AC delco GM stock stero) I asked if the terri stop was complete. He said yes and I asked permisison to ask him a question. He was so inclined, so I asked him. Did this stop have anything to do with the stickers on the back of my truck? To which he replied "What sticker?" Well Umm I had a four foot - One Big A$$ Mistake America four inches tall across the back of my truck.

Now, for ANYONE not to see that constitutes an absolute idiot. He was lying and i caught him before he even realized it. He never saw it coming. I already knew about the Napalitano directive.

SO I took it to the police chief and the mayor. I said - I want to see the stop video. Ya don;t get to pull me over for this foolishness and ask me if I am armed. (Keep in mind, Illinois was still absolute prohibition state at the time). That is just another in a line of violations of my rights that happened here. It took 6 weeks to see the video and when I finally got to see it what was shown was a generic .wav file absent ALL times stamps and other identifiers. All that was in place was a generic timer that started from zero. The funniest part? Questions and responses were all move around to the point the entire conversation made no sense! Things said earlier were later and vice versa. It was the most ridiculous thing I had ever seen.

So I looked the police chief in the eye and said this - I will put my hand on the Bible in a court of law and swear that is not how that conversation went. He just paused, waiting, and I then asked him if he wanted me to do that. He said, well, I know you to be a good and honorable man. SO I said, well we can go forward two ways, one I snap off about this producing a fight nobody really wins OR we all can learn from this and when it comes to my family it is understood that no games will be played, ever, unless real and true laws are actually broken. No Games. Chief shook my hand and would talk to me later about things.

Next thing I knew, a particular officer was no longer and officer. And there have been precisely zero negative interaction with local leo with me or my kids ever since. Deal made and complied with on both sides.

I share this story because people need to understand - gubmint means BUSINESS with this kind of thing, this sticker thing. They really DO fear us. SO if you are going to advertise, you better be willing to stand up when it counts. They will run over you if you do not.

Anonymous said...

Looks like I need to add some bumper stickers to my car. . . . and everyone else's too (white noise)

B Woodman
III-per

Anonymous said...

INFIDEL?? Really? Only about a few thousand veterans have THAT on their truck or a T-shirt.....but we already know that they look at veterans as potential subversives...."just go off and die for your country, if you survive don't you dare hold any political opinion but the one we approve if....

The NRA sticker too.... :rolleyes: I have one of those that wound up on a bumper next to a Bernie Sanders one. ;-)

CowboyDan said...

You can buy blank bumper stickers at an office supply store, with either white or clear backgrounds. Avery makes them, and I'm sure there are store brands also available.

If you use the Avery brand, there are templates available on their website or built into MSWord. Maybe Libre Office (Free Office) also has templates built in by now. Usually, the free stuff is one update behind the MS stuff, but it is free, so let's not complain too loudly. Either way, the numbering system is similar enough that you can use Avery templates on generic stock. If you're so inclined, you can also use labels designed for envelopes and get more per page.

Yellow shows up well against red backgrounds. I don't know of anyone who makes retro reflective ink for home printers. Someone else may have a source for that.

Anonymous said...

I prefer Stealth, and to Look and Talk, just like them. But that's just me

Anonymous said...

Over twenty years ago, I was a subscriber to GUNS & AMMO magazine. In one issue there was a letter to the editor which described a contact the writer had with a Foster City, CA police officer. This particular writer, as I remember, quoted the officer as being particularly judgmental, officious, and nasty because he observed the NRA sticker on the rear window of the writer's car.
Now let's all keep in mind this incident was reported a long time ago. Which one of you "Patriots" in your right mind, would want to wave a red flag in front of the bull at this stage of the game? I seem to recall a civil disobedience solution posted on this site which involved posters made of thick paper and Pet Milk. I will let you people connect the dots.

Uncle Elmo said...

Gadsden and Culpeper has 10-packs on sale, only $6! I better get a set. It's the least I can do to help my local Government Enforcement Officers.

http://www.gadsdenandculpeper.com/10-sticker-set.html

They're so inexpensive you can afford sets for all your kids' cars, too!

Fight islam Now said...

Amazing the foisting of the "Lavoy" flag so suddenly as a "known extremist flag" -what's it been - four days? Seems they're really drawing lines........and fast - maybe focus grouped by HLS or NORCOM

Will it evolve to open objection of the school boards and probable cause for vehicle stops? OH, forgot - long past that

All internment is local

Fight Islam Now

Anonymous said...

Well I guess they haven't yet realized that we've moved out of the hangar and are now sitting on the tarmac. Tick, tock......

Kenny said...

To the Anonymous fellow who was stopped for the bumper sticker, then given a warning for a loud stereo.... Well, you have a case of idiot and need training.
Why in the world do you flaunt who you are? Keep a low profile. Yep, the LEO does a lot of profiling in today's world, just give him a reason.
Why don't some of you make good friends with the county sheriff and his deputies.
Many ARE on our side. The Sheriff here in MD IS, I talk to him quite often and 80% of citizens love him because he is a constitutional sheriff only enemy is the criminals.

Happy D said...

So that is why we sold out of those at the store today.
I'll have to search the back room to see if we have any "friendly nibble snake flags" that I had forgotten on the shelf.

Chiu ChunLing said...

When you're fighting a bull, you wave the red flag to get it to commit to a charge so you can stab it as it goes past. After you get a few skewers in it, you take a sword and finish it on the last pass.

Or you can just charge straight in without all the flag-waving and take it head-on. Most people consider that a stupid way to fight a bull, but not everyone is patient enough for all the flag-waving.

idahobob said...

Obviously based on a "report" from those sexual deviants at the splc.

Bob
III

Anonymous said...

Just went to http://www.gadsdenandculpeper.com and ordered a whole raft of goodies for fundraising purposes at the upcoming Minnesota caucuses. Seems like a better idea than just asking for contributions.

Anonymous said...

So now my "Free Scooby Doo" bumper sticker is an extremist flag?

Ma Duce

Anonymous said...

To Kenneth Moore:

I case you haven't noticed. In Amerika today, 10s of thousands of "laws"/codes makes us ALL criminals every day of the year. "law" enFORCEment officers have the job of just figuring out which one we broke and exacting a tax on it.

I'm guessing you are probably retired LEO. It aint the same out there anymore, Andy Taylor is dead, and unless you a family member or fellow LEO you are a target of government agents.

Unknown said...

LE is more than willing to profile patriots, but God forbid they profile a Muslim...

Anonymous said...

gawfer said...

LE is more than willing to profile patriots, but God forbid they profile a Muslim...

And that is a crime for which they should and eventually will be vehemently prosecuted for, as history has shown clearly, by their own or by "We The People".

I WILL NOT be treated as a second class citizen in my own country.