Sunday, April 25, 2010

Bill Clinton, the OKC Boogyman and the other boogymen who really haunt his sleep.

The bogeyman (also spelled boogyman, bogyman, boogieman, boogey monster) is a legendary ghost-like monster. The bogeyman has no specific appearance and conceptions of the monster can vary drastically even from household to household within the same community; in many cases, he simply has no set appearance in the mind of a child, but is just an amorphous embodiment of terror. Bogeyman can be used metaphorically to denote a person or thing of which someone has an irrational fear. Parents often say that if their child is naughty, the bogeyman will get them, in an effort to make them behave. -- Wikipedia.

It began with this announcement, sent out only three days before the event:

ADVISORY: President Bill Clinton Discusses the Tragedy of Oklahoma City: 15 Years Later and the Lessons for Today
April 13, 2010

Contact: Anna Soellner
Phone: 202.682.1611

Friday, April 16, 2010, 9:30am – 12:30pm

WASHINGTON, D.C.—The Center for American Progress Action Fund and the Democratic Leadership Council will hold a symposium commemorating the 15th anniversary of the Oklahoma City Bombing.

Opening the symposium will be a keynote speech by former President Bill Clinton who will discuss Oklahoma City and its aftermath. Following the speech will be a panel discussion with experts who will discuss Oklahoma City, how the country reacted to it, and what lessons we can lean from it today about our political discourse.

For members of the press, please RSVP to Anna Soellner at

Space is extremely limited. RSVP required.

What: Symposium Commemorating the 15th Anniversary of the Oklahoma City Bombing

When: Friday, April 16th at 9:30am EST


Introductory Remarks:

Al From, Founder, Democratic Leadership Council

John Podesta, President and Chief Executive Officer, Center for American Progress Action Fund

Keynote Address:

President Bill Clinton

Featured Panelists:

Congressman Kendrick Meek, (D-FL)

Former Congressman Mickey Edwards, (R-OK)

Bradley Buckles, former director, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms

Mark Potok, Director, Intelligence Project, Southern Poverty Law Center

Michael Waldman, Executive Director, Brennan Center for Justice

Moderated by: Ron Brownstein, National Journal

Where: Center for American Progress Action Fund 1333 H St. NW, 10th Floor Washington, DC 20005

Now this is quite a rogue's gallery. Not only do we have the Southern Preposterous Lie Center's Mark "the Montgomery Castrato" Potok, Michael Waldman, former speechwriter for Bill Clinton, and Bradley Buckles, cover-up artist extraordinaire of the ATF, first with the Chief Counsel's Office and later as Director (endorsed by both Bushies and Clintonistas) but they added on, apparently at the last minute, Jamie "The Wall" Gorelick, the principal cover-up queen of Clinton Main Justice, and arguably one good reason why U.S. intelligence did not intercept the 9-11 attacks (of course she was later appointed to the commission investigating herself).

You will note that they are not interested in dissenting voices here. This was about projecting a meme.

And what is the Center for American Progress, you might ask?

The Center for American Progress is a liberal public policy research and advocacy organization. Its website describes it as "... a nonpartisan research and educational institute dedicated to promoting a strong, just and free America that ensures opportunity for all." It has its headquarters in Washington D.C.

Its President and Chief Executive Officer is John Podesta, who served as chief of staff to then U.S. President Bill Clinton. Located in Washington, D.C., the Center for American Progress has a campus outreach group, Campus Progress, and a sister advocacy organization, the Center for American Progress Action Fund. Citing Podesta's influence in the formation of the Obama Administration, a November 2008 article in Time stated that "not since the Heritage Foundation helped guide Ronald Reagan's transition in 1981 has a single outside group held so much sway."

History and mission

The Center for American Progress was created in 2003 as a left-wing alternative to think tanks such as the Heritage Foundation and the American Enterprise Institute.

Since its inception, the Center has gathered a group of high-profile senior fellows, including Lawrence Korb, Assistant Secretary of Defense under President Ronald Reagan; Gene Sperling, Director of the National Economic Council under President Bill Clinton; Ruy Teixeira, political scientist and author of The Emerging Democratic Majority; and, most recently, former Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle and Elizabeth Edwards, wife of former Presidential candidate Sen. John Edwards. . .

The Center has no information on its website about its funding, but the Washington Post reported that "seed money pledged by such deep-pocketed Democrats as financier George Soros (and mortgage billionaires Herbert and Marion Sandler)" assisted its formation. The authors of Her Way, a biography of Hillary Clinton, also assert that the Democracy Alliance, a progressive donors collective, has funded the Center. They also assert that the Sandlers and Soros provided seed money. -- Wikipedia.

CAP is also hardwired into the Obama White House. Thus this dog-and-pony show, apparently put on in great haste and not a little expense of George Soros' money, was certainly done for what the enemies of the Founders' Republic consider a very good reason.

Here is the serial perjurer and rapist's conflationary screed.

And it wasn't just the CAP show that they used to get the message out. Billy Jeff did a column for the New York Times and gave high-profile interviews to ABC and CNN, among others.

I shall not dissect the many errors and outright lies in this attack on facts and logic, but allow me to summarize:

The criticisms of the GOP, Rush Limbaugh, and Glen Beck, plus the activism of the Tea Parties, will lead to the terrorism of another Oklahoma City bombing as carried out by "the lone bomber," everyone's favorite boogyman, Timothy McVeigh.

Clinton's NYT column is entitled "What We Learned in Oklahoma City." It would have been more revealing if he had written on the subject "What We Learned in Oklahoma City -- and did our damnedest to keep you from finding out."

Timothy McVeigh, the "Lone Bomber."

Okay, will everyone who believes that Timothy McVeigh was the "lone bomber" who accomplished the mass murder of 167 Americans, please raise their hand?

A few facts that have slipped out that Bill Clinton won't tell you:

Andreas Carl Strassmeir.

On 5 April 1995, moments after renting the Ryder truck used in the bombing, Timothy McVeigh, using the "Darryl Bridges" phone card, called a man named Andreas Carl Strassmeir at Elohim City, a "Christian" Identity compound in the sticks of eastern Oklahoma that served as the base for the Aryan Republican Army terror cell (also known as the "Midwestern Bank Bandits'). At the time, Strassmeir was "chief of security" at Elohim City. His roommate was Michael Brescia, former Philadelphia choirboy and a member of the ARA.

Strassmeir wasn't just any German tourist with a penchant for anti-Semitic rural life. As Oklahoma journalist J.D. Cash reported in a series of stories in the McCurtain Gazette in 1996 and 1997:

"Andy the German's" father is Guenter Strassmeir, and experienced politician who escaped from communist-occupied East Germany after World War II and made his way to the top rungs of West Germany's mainstream Christian Democratic Union political party.

Recently retired from official posts, the elder Strassmeir served 23 years in the parliament, but is best remembered as the architect of the reunification of the divided Germanies. It was a tedious and historic process he oversaw while serving as Parliamentary Secretary of State to the Chancellor in Berlin.

Another well-known member of the family is Andreas' younger brother, Alexander, who currently serves as a representative on Berlin's elected council.

A trained Panzergrenadier intelligence officer, Strassmeir began paying visits to the U.S. while still in the Bundeswehr. He was sponsored by a man named Vincent Petruskie, an Air Force Colonel and CIA operative. It was evident from the beginning that Strassmeir had an invisible force field around him.

In February of 1992, state troopers set up a roadblock near the entrance to Elohim City. The purpose was to check for required documents such as driver's licenses, tags and proofs of insurance. Strassmeir was among those stopped.

Interviewed later, one of the troopers said Strassmeir fooled him.

"There were two men in the vehicle. The driver as it turns out was Strassmeir, but he gave his buddy's name, Pete Ward. And that is how I wrote him up."

Cited for not displaying an Oklahoma tag, and failing to carry a valid driver's license, the ticket indicates it was issued to Peter Nelson Leslie Ward, with a date of birth, 2/18/68. But Ward's Oklahoma driver's license shows his date of birth as 12/30/68.

Another tell-tale clue of the apparent forgery is reflected on the signature line of the citation where "Jr." preceded Ward.

While Strassmeir was apparently able to fool the troopers as to his true identity for a time, still his car was impounded pending a resolution of the charges. And inside the vehicle was a briefcase that had caught the trooper's attention.

Wrecker driver Kenny Pence of Muldrow remembers the event vividly.

"That guy was some kind of weird cookie," said Pence. "I tell ya... the next day-- after I locked his car up in my yard-- I started gettin' calls from all over the place."

Pence recounted the series of events. "Some high-powered lawyer in Houston called. Some general or major or somethin' in the Carolinas called. The district office for the Highway Patrol called. And then someone at the State Department called."

It seemed that whoever owned the faded red '83 Chevrolet wagon was important.

"You bet," said Pence. "Everyone was telling me to turn that car back and give those papers back to that boy and don't charge him nothin'. They all kept telling me this was one big boo-boo. And the guy at the State Department said this boy had immunity or something. You know, he was some kinda diplomat."

"That general in the Carolinas wanted to know about the briefcase. Heck, you know... those troopers inventoried all of it... but those folks were sure worried about what was in there."

Pence added sardonically, "Man I couldn't get that car out of here fast enough. And when that nut showed up to pick up his car, he got real upset when he saw that the briefcase had been gone through. He settled down in a while and said, 'Well, no one will be able to understand what these are anyway.'"

The real Pete Ward, by the way, was another member of the ARA.

Carol Howe

In February 1995, pursuant to intelligence gathered by a confidential informant, Carol Howe, the Tulsa office of the ATF was planning a raid on Elohium City to arrest Strassmeir. Howe had reported that Strassmeir had led reconnaissance missions to Oklahoma City to scout federal buildings as bomb targets. Before the ATF could act, in late February, in meeting including Bob Ricks, FBI SAC of Oklahoma City, the gun cops were told to back off because, in the words quoted by one meeting participant to J.D. Cash, "Elohim City is OUR operation."

After the bombing, when press attention began to focus on Strassmeir, thanks to the work of J.D. Cash and others, Strassmeir was smuggled out of the country by neoNazi attorney and FBI informant Kirk Lyons. The FBI investigation studiously avoided Elohim City, the ARA, and especially Andreas Carl Strassmeir. This was done mostly at the direction of Jamie Gorelick.

In late 1995, I was pushed into the private investigation of the OKC bombing when a member of the Alabama Department of Public Safety gave me Strassmeir's driver's license and social security number provided him by Vincent Petruskie, as well as "Andy the German's" post-bomb itinerary. I contacted Glenn and Kathy Wilburn, who had lost two grandchildren in the bombing, Chase and Colton Smith, ages 3 and 2, and through the Wilburns, J.D. Cash.

Chase and Colton Smith, murdered at their day care in the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building, 19 April 1995.

It is my understanding that an FBI source told an Associated Press reporter that the OKC bomb was certainly built at Elohim City, not at Geary Lake as the Feds claimed in the McVeigh and Nichols trials.

One surviving member of the ARA, Pete Langan, is being held on a life sentence and zealously guarded by the Bureau of Prisons from any press contact. Not even Dan Rather and 60 minutes could penetrate the iron curtain around Langan.

After more than a decade of diligent digging and sifting, J.D. Cash believed that the OKC bombing was carried out by the ARA -- of which McVeigh was a member -- as part of a larger federal sting operation to break the links between the American and German neoNazi movements and to collapse the individual organizational elements of the racist right collectivists in this country. It was a massive sting operation that got away from the FBI, J.D. believed. As a result, 167 Americans, men, women and little children, died. If so, Bill Clinton has their blood on his hands, as well as that of the 80 Davidians at Waco. Chase Smith would be 18 this month. Colton would be 17.

Although J.D. Cash has passed away, his research was preserved and his work is being carried out by LTC Roger Charles, USMC, Ret'd. The book, if current predictions hold true, will be out next year.

So why would Bill Clinton allow himself to be trotted out to speak on this subject that I'm certain he'd rather forget?

Because it worked once, and his sponsors believe it might work again. So they shoved him out in public, singing the same song, but strangely seem to have done it in a hurry, without total preparation as these things usually are. Does this connote panic? If not, why the scrambling improvisation?

Clinton himself, sitting back, relaxed, smoking a cigar and talking to the press on Air Force One on the flight back to DC from Arkansas the morning after his re-election said it: "Oklahoma City broke the spell." Now the left-collectivists find themselves in another bind. The Tea Party movement, the prospect of an even greater tsunami sweeping Democrats away in November, all looks bleak.

So the serial perjurer and rapist was trotted out one more time to shape the battlefield, so that when something else blows up in this country, it can be laid at the feet of all of their opponents, and muzzle them once more, just as it did in the 90s.

But this is not the 90s. I think that if we had had the fully developed Internet of today back in 1995, we might know what really happened. Only the dedicated incuriousity of the main-stream media saved the Clintonistas from exposure then, before the cover story and the narrative were set in stone. But now the people have a voice and an investigative tool all their own.

They also have people who remember the 90s, remember the personalities and the faces of the Clintonistas, who are remarkably the same faces of the Obamanoids today.

I remember those faces. I remember the faces of Jamie Gorelick and Andreas Carl Strassmeir. I also remember the faces of Chase and Colton Smith. I have them posted above my computer monitor, just as I have had since I first got them from Glenn and Kathy Wilburn, oh so many years ago.

Clinton and his sponsors would have us remember Timothy McVeigh as the Lone Boogyman of Oklahoma City. But he has also given away the fact that there are other boogymeny who disturb HIS sleep, and apparently that of his puppetmasters.

Note well, this line from the ABC interview:

And in the right wing media, and with Oath Keepers, the 3 Percenters, the -- all these people, you know . .

And this from the CAP speech:

But I think that all you have to do is read the paper every day to see how many people there are who are deeply, deeply troubled. We know, now, that there are people involved in groups – these “hatriot” groups, the Oath Keepers, the Three Percenters, the others . .

Billy Jeff has also denounced us by name in other interviews.

This is no accident.

We haunt their dreams, we Threepers and Oath Keepers. We flit around in their nightmares. WE are THEIR boogymen. We are living rent free inside their heads.

They would not take the time to denounce us by name -- and together -- if we weren't.

Remember who set Clinton up on this Soros-sponsored stage. We have the attention of Sauron. The great eye is watching us both.

That being the case, I'm going to suggest something. If Mordor fears the alliance of Rohan and Gondor, is it in the interest of either to spend significant time calling each other names? Or should past slights be forgiven in the interest of battling the real enemy?

Stewart, what's your opinion on that now that you've been freed from the evil influence of Grima Wormtongue, er, ah, I mean Walter Reddy?

Mike Vanderboegh
The alleged leader of a merry band of Three Percenters.

Walter Reddy. Or maybe it is only Walter Reddy's avatar.


Anonymous said...

Sauron, Rohan, Gondor, Wormtongue, excellent parallels all.


Anonymous said...

Gotta love Lord of the Rings. It fits a lot of situations...even though Tolkien didn't intend it that way.

No telling what kind of skeletons they have in the closet...

Anonymous Irregular said...

Hey Mike, have you seen this? Any comments?

CorbinKale said...

I am a 3%er, and an Oath Keeper. Both approaches are necessary and viable. Even though I will physicially put my own ass on the line for my beliefs as a 3%er, I will not denegrate those who adhere solely to the rhetorical, non-participation of Oath Keepers. Indeed, the stated role of Oath Keepers REQUIRES non-participation.

I can understand that people got their feelings hurt, but Oath Keepers is not the enemy. Oath Keepers is to 3%ers, as MLK was to the Deacons. Totally different approaches to a shared cause.

If someone has a real problem with supporting the Oath Keepers philosophy, then don't. Meanwhile, drop the counter-productive sniping, and face your guns back around the right way. The purpose of both groups is to PREVENT a civil war. It makes no sense to fight one amongst ourselves.

dennis308 said...

CorbinKale 110% right are We gonna fall for the divide and conquer tactic?? Ah Shit.


straightarrow said...

anybody silly enough to believe McVeigh knocked down the building needs to read AF GEn. Partin's analysis of the explosion(s). At the time of his analysis he was considered the world's foremost expert on explosives by every government in the world.

Because his report belied the official version it was pretty sparsely diseminated. However, anybody looking at the damage and the surrounding area knows that truck bomb didn't knock down the building.

Couple that with several technical factors and the hiding of the physical evidence, much like was done at Waco, and every intelligent person knows there is a whole lot more to the story.

McVeigh may have blown up a truck in the street, but he didn't knock down the building.

straightarrow said...

Corbikale you mistake the dynamic here. We are not pointing our guns at OK, we are just not relying on them. It is their fault that they have become extraneous to any real purpose of liberty.

How can we expect them to keep their oaths when they ran at the first sign of official censure? the answer? WE CAN'T!!!

I don't have any burning animosity toward them, nor do I suspect do most here hold any animosity for them. What we have is worse. Indifference. They simply don't hold any place in our list of reliable allies. Makes them no different than a great many others, with the exception that they claim a difference of higher moral character. Well, if one can have moral character without courage, they may be right. But I'm betting the other way.

Your analogy to MLK as related to the Deacons is inappropriate. Though MLK and the Deacons had different approaches none of them ran. That is where the analogy falls apart. I would bet you that when members of the Deacons went to hear King speak, they did not run away because there might be untoward consequences or unfortunate publicity. Totally unlike what the OK did.

Unknown said...

Corbandale is obtuse or a stooge.

The main goal of the groups referred to previously is to restore the constitution; whatever that entails

PAINE "If there is to be war let it be in my life time so my children can live in peace!"



Anonymous said...

Shaping the battlefield thorugh Klinton, Madcow, media and Soros? There's gonna be another OKC before the election. Notice that the new Army unit is to be stationed right before the election also.

Reichstag Fire, suspend the election, deploy the army - Obama in charge.

Anonymous said...

All of this was thrashed pretty heavily on alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater just after it happened.

Ask Beck, he was right in the middle of all of it and Billyjeff even invoked a Beck quote when he made his statement last week.

Anonymous said...

CorbinKale said...
The purpose of both groups is to PREVENT a civil war.

It would be nice if that could be prevented. But I can assure you, the "government" is not just going to wake up one day and find a new respect for the constitution.

How sad it will be that a counter revolution was prevented at the expense of what liberties we have left.

"It is natural for man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts...For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it."

By the way, all OK'ers had to do was show up. What can be more American than hanging out with a bunch of Patriots bearing guns?

By their not showing up, and giving their many lame excuses not to show up ... they branded everyone who did as a bunch of loons. FACE IT!

Anonymous said...

What you are seeing today is the equivalent of Joeseph Goebbels effort to rewrite history. It has just begun. By election day you will not even recognize your nieghbor, the press and the Democrats will have vilified the tea party and anyone who doesn't embrace the left as racist and hate mongers. Watch carefully as the majority of the press lines up with SPLC and George Soros and creates an alternate reality. In the next month or two Obama and his band of merry congressman will give amnesty to millions of illegals who will vote for Democrats in every election for decades to come. As clear as it is today that most Americans do not want what Obama is forcing down our throat by November 2nd the propaganda will turn the tide. You have already lost your country and it happened without firing a shot. Ask yourself where was the SPLC in 2008 or 2007 or 2006 etc?? Why suddenly they are on every TV channel and every talk show spreading their propaganda? This is probably the worlds biggest conspiracy unfolding right before your eyes. It will get worse. -- There is less time then you think.

dennis308 said...

Anomymous the republic is not lost yet, I can still keep a 10in. group at a thousand yards with a .300RUM might be one and only one shot but when the time comes I can sill do it. The problem is to get within that 1000yd. mark.


skybill said...

Hi Mike,
What dennis308 at 20:16hrs., 4/25 just said in reply to "anymouse","I can still keep a 10" group at a thousand yards with a .300RUM, might be one and only one shot but when the time comes I can still do it. The problem is to get within that 1000 yard mark." is very interesting. Barry is definitely in a "1000 yard 'bubble'" but the big question is,"How far down the food chain do these bubbles go?" Queen nancy, Scary Harry, others?? We're living in their heads rent free now!! They are lashing out against us and running scared! To think that every move they make out in the open "has" to be covered by how many secret service agents at least out to 1000 yards!! Are all of them on "their" side??? Just think about managing all these cake plate bubbles over all these major player collectivists!! Our tax dollars, and lots of 'em, hard at work!! On a side note, how does Barry know that his food is not poisoned????? Can he trust his guards when he sleeps (ala Sadam Hussseain)??

Anonymous said...

Just an FYI - The "bubble" was expanded to 1600 yards some years ago....

CorbinKale said...

All analogy is suspect, no doubt. What I meant with the MLK analogy was that he did not carry a gun, while the Deacons did. Common purpose with different tactics. One could reasonably posit that the whole endeavor would have failed without both acting in concert.

Rhodes shouldn't have committed to the rally in the first place, as it excludes the very professionals that OK was designed to reach. It was a mistake that caused damage, but failure to correct the mistake would have been fatal. Active duty military and police are prohibited from participating in events like the RTC rally. If Rhodes spoke at that rally, he would have destroyed OK in that it could no longer accomplish its purpose.

Let's take the situation even further to illustrate a point. Why didn't the RTC rally march into DC? Wouldn't that have been a better demonstration of our Rights? Why aren't the patriots, who are vilifying Oath Keepers, rising up and denouncing the RTC crew as cowards for being 'afraid' to exercise their Constitutionally protected Rights on the Capitol steps? WHY? The answer is simple, because it would have been counter-productive to the purpose of the rally. Indeed, anyone criticizing the RTC rally for not going far enough would be ridiculous.

There are many fronts in this war, and much of it is taking place out of view. OK didn't say there was any danger to individuals, and in fact encouraged its members to attend. They only asked that they not compromise the OK outreach mission by wearing OK shirts and hats to the event.

To those who are indifferent to OK, I can respect that. Not everyone sees the same picture, and no damage is done. But then there are the folks who would have preferred that Oath Keepers destroy itself by officially taking part in the RTC rally. That just doesn't make any sense to me. Is it to serve some twisted sense of honor? Personal ego? I am still trying to get a handle on it.

I think much of the misunderstanding is a failure to comprehend the purpose of Oath Keepers. It is NOT an organization that will 'do something', like take up arms. It is an organization to educate military and police to REFUSE to do specific things that are counter to our Constitutional Oaths. I advocate for Mike's 3%er philosophy and for Stewart's Oath Keepers philosophy. They are different approaches, necessarily using different tactics, yet serving the same end.

Anonymous said...

Bob Lee Swagger, duty calls.

Anonymous said...

I do not take sides in our internal feuds. I have signed the OathKeeper pledge, and I also stand with the threepers. Whoever is the first point of contact. I wait, for now, but when the time comes, I will heed the wise counsel of General Forrest - "Mount up and ride to the sound of the cannon." I care only about challenging the approaching real enemy. I recognize Sauron and Wormtongue. I will not surrender.


Anonymous said...

You are whistling past the graveyard. Neither your veiled threat to use violence nor actual violence will prevent the far left from winning this. In fact any violence will work in their favor and against saving the Republic. The Democrats have planned for this for a long time and they intend to succeed. Yes they will lose a few seats in the next election but meanwhile they will give us "Cap and Tax", Amnesty, and the Obama care will remain untouchable. Obama gave the unions and community organizers billions after he took office and now you will see those billions used to buy elections. Nov 2nd 2010 will go down in history as the antithesis of Jul 4th 1776. The only hope lies in "coming together" and voting the best man/woman into office regardless of their party or other issues they favor not related to what is important right now. Charlie Crist in Florida could split the vote and get a Democrat elected. You need to bite your lip and vote for Rubio. Everywhere, every election there will be tough choices. Don't let the Democrats succeed in splitting us up. If you want to do something usefull then get involved in volunteering at a polling place so you can keep an eye on them. This is the big one. There is less time then you think...