An auto de fé was the ritual of public penance of condemned heretics and apostates that took place when the Spanish Inquisition or the Portuguese Inquisition had decided their punishment (that is, after the trial). Auto de fé in medieval Spanish (and in Portuguese) means "act of faith". The phrase is used most frequently in English in its alternative Portuguese form auto-da-fé. In the popular imagination, "auto-da-fé" has come to refer to burning at the stake for heresy. -- Wikipedia.
"Here's more of them! They're everywhere! They're everywhere!" How can we escape?!? They've got shackles inside! No, really, Mark Koernke told me personally!"
If I get another one of these Mark Koernke-inspired paranoid fantasy email warnings I'm going to puke. Look people, go here to the March 2000 issue of Popular Mechanics, read the article "Auto-Max Railcar Gets More Vehicles To Dealers: The Auto-Max railcar is changing the way cars are shipped," by Edward Hellwig.
Here is an Auto-Max being loaded.
Here is a closer view.
See any shackles designed for humans?
C'mon, people, quit believing such easily debunked disinformation. It only makes our side, assuming people who push such lies ARE on our side, look like demonstrable morons, fruitcakes and nutburgers. The really funny thing is that this rumor (complete with photos) got started by the left loonies during the Bush administration and folks who claim to be on our side (and other racist collectivist idiots like Hal Turner) picked it up. Let no imaginary piece of horsecrap go to waste, I guess.
Anyway, if the trains start running in this country, you'll know it when it happens and they won't need any special cars to do it. Just be ready to fight back when they do.
The Dr. Demento of "patriot" disinformation.
Remember when you ran away and I got on my knees and begged you not to leave because I'd go berserk?? Well...
You left me anyhow and then the days got worse and worse and now you see I've gone completely out of my mind.. And..
They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!
They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa
To the funny farm. Where life is beautiful all the time and I'll be happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats and they're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!!!!
You thought it was a joke and so you laughed, you laughed when I had said that losing you would make me flip my lid.. RIGHT???
I know you laughed, I heard you laugh, you laughed you laughed and
laughed and then you left, but now you know I'm utterly mad... And..
They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa,
They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa.
To the happy home. With trees and flowers and chirping birds and basket
weavers who sit and smile and twiddle their thumbs and toes and they're
coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!!
They're Coming to Take Me Away, Ha-Haaa, from Dr. Demento's Delights Warner Bros. 1975.
Come on, Mike, you KNOW they plan to use front-end loaders to stuff our broken(after keeping us in gun-free gettos for a few months on starvation rations) bodies in those cars...
No, really - it's serious stuff! And I saw the mobile guillotine carts, too, built for public executions, and the little square cement pre-fab cells for solitary confinement, being made in Canada. Excuse me a moment - I need to remove this probe that they stuffed in my,uh.. neck...
Mark Koernke??? Isn't he the same guy who said on the CB airwaves in the 90's that the Soviets were massing tanks in Mexico, and that the Vietcong had already penetrated Texas?
Sometimes, I wonder if these so-called "patriots" are really paid agents of the leftist fascists, trying to divide us by spreading misinformation.
Mike you missed an important point here. These cars are of course designed to carry cars.
They will actually load the 'undesirables' into cars bought under the Cash For Clunkers program prior to be loaded into these box cars.
2 birds with one stone... Oh wait. That could not be a government program because it would require some form of efficiency.
Ha! This stuff is still making the rounds? I hadn't seen these cars fingered as being transports. Back in 2000 there were rumors flying around of U.S. military railcars that were white, had ventilation shutters and shackles that were going to be used.
Like most things, there was some truth to it. I found eight of these cars sitting on a siding in Fallon, NV. They were used to transport munitions and missles for the Air Force. The ventilation shutters were to keep the heat level inside the car down, and the 'shackles' were to keep the missles from slamming around inside the car. The white color was a sun reflective coating that worked to keep the cars cooler.
For transporting people, think cattle car, unless you want the car load of people to be dead on arrival....which defeats the alleged purpose of using them for hard labor!
Any 'white' 'U.N.' cattle cars out there? Just kidding.....
Koernke is certifiable in the best case. In the worst case, our 'merry little band' believes he's an agent provocateur.
The sad facts are that many groups listen to this "intellectually challenged" (he's not stupid, he just goes "high and right" on his reasoning) man and put great stock into what he says.
Also interesting is that as he's a Michigander, he's NEVER once contacted our group to help us "see the light".
Gee...I wonder why. Could it be the Op-Ed we have entitled, "Groups and Ideologies that have NO place in the MPA!"?
For those that may be curious, our web site is: www.michiganpatriotalliance.com
The real tragedy is the folks they actually dupe with this mess.
I am personally aware of a family who could be good IIIpers but for the fact the husband has lost their life savings and his job from buying whole hog into the BS Alex Jones and his ilk peddle.
It's tearing said family apart.
MPA-III said "...he's NEVER once contacted our group to help us "see the light".
Gee...I wonder why. Could it be the Op-Ed we have entitled, "Groups and Ideologies that have NO place in the MPA!"?"
The op-ed includes nothing that Koernke would not be against, either, so I do not see the connection at all.
I do not understand the antipathy towards Koernke. His entire message has repeatedly (at least ever since he got out of prison) been 'prepare' for dealing with the socialist scum who are attempting to set up soviet-style collectivism in our country. He emphasizes food storage, water storage, medical storage, and firearms and ammunition. He emphasises the need for training.
Perhaps the most consistent thing about hsi broadcasts that *I* have come away with is that for every problem presented by the bad guys, there are a myriad of solutions - most of them off the shelf and available NOW on the cheap - and that this 'resistance is futile' nonsense is just that - pure enemy propaganda.
Perhaps I missed something, but honestly I haven't seen or heard anything from him that puts him in the tabloid category with Alex Jones.
And speaking of AJ, does he not continuously sound the alarm that our country is being taken over by globalist collectivists? I have not heard either one state categorically the things they are ridiculed about by other patriots.
As Koernke says - we should save our salvos for the enemy, not each other.
Just my opinion.
"As Koernke says - we should save our salvos for the enemy, not each other."
Disagree wholeheartedly. He has done more to discredit the idea of the armed citizenry than any other individual.
Let's recap some stuff I remember vividly from the 90s.
He inflated his military resume, to the disgust of other veterans in the movement (and others who might have been but for the looney-tunes atmosphere fostered by Koernke, et al).
He was involved in a murder of one of his followers.
He consistently pushed crap like "Red Dawn Out Of Mexico", the trainload full of guillotines, invasion instructions for the NWO on the back of road signs, and the like.
The first hurdle ANY militia recruiter had to overcome was the public perception of loons like Koernke and I must say, Norm Olson (the "Japanese CIA blew up the Murrah Building in retaliation for the Tokyo subway attacks" was a personal favorite of mine).
As far as saving salvos for the "enemy," Koernke has never been my friend nor, in his spread of disinformation, has he been a friend to the cause he purports to represent.
Embrace of disinformation discredits EVERYTHING you do otherwise. It speaks to your competence, your care in vetting information, and frankly your intentions and even your mental state. If you do not care enough about the people who trust you to vett the most obvious disinformation but pass it on as if it were received truth, you are worthless as a leader and, to my mind, as a human being.
Mike, thanks for taking the time to reply to my query about Koernke.
Just a few points:
1. I have heard him claim he is former military. Do I understand you correctly as saying he was not? Or that he has been less than truthful about his military background? I am not trying to be argumentative, I am simply trying to gather information so as to make an informed judgement about his information. The only thing I could find regarding him lying about his background is the usual SPLC-sponsored talking point which claims he was nothing but a janitor at a university who decided to go on air as 'Mark from Michigan'.
2. I have not been able to find any information about the murder you mention. Can you give some more info on that, showing his connection to it?
3. The TacMars thing is admittedly a little strange, but I have come to accept the fact that EVERYBODY in the public patriot movement seems to have one idosincrasy (sp?) or another...
4. What disinformation are you specifically referring to? The TacMars claim? As for Chinese Red Dawn out of Mexico, I had heard that back in the 90s but I think the idea of military forces on the border seems to have become more plausible to an extent when you consider the whole 'Zetas'/MExican military drug runner incursions across the border that have been credibly reported by Sherriffs and BP agents in the last 5 years or so. Not saying there are Red Chinese across the Rio Grande, just saying someone sees military personal and then goes ape with the story, nevermind there may be a kernel (albeit small and hidden under a pile of misinformation) of truth to it.
5. As for properly vetting people and me being a leader, I am simply a guy trying to understand what all the hubbub is, is all.
Perhaps someone could write up a 'report' detailing (with proper documentation, of course) Mr Koernke's failings as a patriot leader.
It might go a long way towards steering people away from error.
"1. I have heard him claim he is former military. Do I understand you correctly as saying he was not? Or that he has been less than truthful about his military background? I am not trying to be argumentative, I am simply trying to gather information so as to make an informed judgement about his information. The only thing I could find regarding him lying about his background is the usual SPLC-sponsored talking point which claims he was nothing but a janitor at a university who decided to go on air as 'Mark from Michigan'."
Screw SPLC, nobody cared that he was a janitor after his service, what they DID care about was that he padded his DD214 big time, among other things claiming he was a "military intelligence officer." He wasn't. Not even close. Somewhere around here I've got Arlin Adams' critique of Koernke at the time (and Arlin WAS in MI) and it is devastating. The one thing a military officer is expected to do before anything is tell the truth and not quibble if he's caught in an indiscretion. Koernke flat out lied. End of story.
"2. I have not been able to find any information about the murder you mention. Can you give some more info on that, showing his connection to it?"
His bodyguards murdered a guy they thought was a snitch and also who they thought Koernke wanted dead. Google it, ask any Michigan Militia guy who was around then. What I think happened was not that these guys killed on Koernke's orders, but rather they got out of control because Koernke a. didn't vett them properly and b. couldn't COMMAND a two car funeral. If you surround yourself with idiots, they do idiotic things. He may not have pulled the trigger, but he set up the circumstances that caused it to happen.
Why anybody pays attention to him these days is beyond me.
The song was orriginally recorded by Napoleon XIV, pseudonym of American singer-songwriter and record producer Jerry Samuels, in 1966. Common mike, i have a fraction of your *ahem* experience, and I knew that.
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