Wednesday, December 31, 2014

“We’re not trying to stop background checks,” Gottlieb sez.

A perhaps unrelated historical definition -- Judenrat: (plural Judenräte) "Jewish council" (German) - Usually referring to a group of Jews who enacted the German laws in the ghettos.
"SAF files federal lawsuit challenging I-594." Uh, huh. But here's the revealing part:
Today’s filing puts an end to speculation about legal action, and also answers complaints from some gun rights activists that SAF was essentially going to “roll over” and do nothing. SAF insiders had been keeping quiet about their legal strategy, lining up plaintiffs and doing their homework. That takes time.
“We’re not trying to stop background checks,” Gottlieb said in his press release. “We’re taking action against a poorly-written and unconstitutionally vague measure that criminalizes activities that are perfectly legal anywhere else in the country, thus striking at the very heart of a constitutionally-protected, fundamental civil right.”
“We’re not trying to stop background checks,” Gottlieb sez. Yeah, well we kinda figured out that you were going to roll over and do nothing on that a long time ago, Alan.
Tell us again how the background checks you are willing to concede aren't registration lists. And speaking of lists. . .
Hannah Arendt stated in her 1963 book Eichmann in Jerusalem that without the assistance of the Judenräte, the registration of the Jews, their concentration in ghettos and, later, their active assistance in the Jews' deportation to extermination camps, many fewer Jews would have perished because the Germans would have encountered considerable difficulties in drawing up lists of Jews. In occupied Europe, the Nazis entrusted Jewish officials with the task of making such lists of Jews along with information about the property they owned. The Judenräte also directed the Jewish police to assist the Germans in catching Jews and loading them onto transport trains leaving for concentration camps. In her book, Arendt wrote that: "To a Jew, this role of the Jewish leaders in the destruction of their own people is undoubtedly the darkest chapter of the whole dark story." -- Wikipedia.
This juxtaposition is no doubt overdrawn and grossly unfair to Gottlieb as well as being a violation of Godwin's Law. For example, I will readily concede that there is no evidence that Chaim Rumkowski ever wore a bow tie. Neville Chamberlain, on the other hand. . .


Anonymous said...

Sounds to me that the statement about not trying to stop background checks was intended to take 'ammunition' away from the 'nay sayers' contention that SAF was simply against background checks. If the statute falls because of it's vagueness and unconstitutionality, Doesn't the background check provision fall as well?

Anonymous said...

What a nasty, stupid thing to write about a Jew who has done more than most people to secure our 2A rights. Who do you think was responsible for Heller and McDonald? Oh, BTW, if you think that the SAF has a chance in hell of getting a federal court to declare that all background checks are unconstitutional, you are delusional

Anonymous said...

Gottlieb also reminds me of Dr. Alfred Nossig; like Nossig; Gottlieb views himself as a superior being and his compromises with our current NAZI's is mainly because of his superior self image which allows him (to drown out our protests!) to know what is best for the rest of us.

If there is any justice in this world, Gottlieb ending will be the same as that of Nossig too!

Comrade X

Robert Fowler said...

Gottlieb is nothing but a greasy snake oil salesman. Not fighting the background checks is just more of his "compromise". Just like his involvement in Manchineel-Toomey.

Joe said...

I've said it for years. NEVER trust a man who wears a bow tie
as a regular dress item.

The Bow Tie Gallery of Trouble Makers includes:

Karl Marx
F.D. Roosevelt
Abraham Lincoln
Alfred Kinsey
Louis Farrakhan
Nation of Islam "Security"
Aleister Crowley
Count Dracula
The Penguin
Pee Wee Herman
Michael Jackson

Texas TopCat said...

Well, we need to start to fight background checks of all kinds. Mainly, with the VA adding veterans to the lists without court action means that they can anyone for anything that they want. Thus, instead of the right to purchase we will have "may allow purchase" law.
NICS needs to be fixed by removing names of people that are not provable as dangerous and make "false positives" an offense where the victim is compensated for their time and money needed for appeal. I personally think that anyone that has voting rights should also have the right to keep and bear arms.

Anonymous said...

Joe: deceased Illinois Senator Paul Simon was also a bowtie nut.

THEBigFatPanda said...

Joe@11:53, you and I are in total agreement. I've told my kids this for years.
You can add Senator Paul Simon of Illinois to that list as well as women with two last names. :-)

AJ said...

I'll just repeat something I heard (read) Mike say some time ago: A man who can't be trusted with a gun can't be trusted without a custodian.
I also mentioned, some time ago, and I think Mike didn't publish it, that Alan Gottlieb screwed WA gun owners in general and his own SAF members (and WAC) in particular with his phony I-591 campaign.
You can bet I will be in the contingent at the next WAC BoD meeting to drum him and his supporters out of WAC.

Anonymous said...

Is it NOT a given that there is NO compromise on the 2nd amendment....NONE...or are we to believe that the 2nd was written to be interpreted as anyone pleases at a time of their choosing....imho owning a gun is NOT a privilege , and the right guaranteed by my 2nd,can not be INFRINGED......thank you very much