He must be a Sipsey Street reader. "Gun Rights Advocates Have A Devastating New Argument Against Gun Control. Here It Is."
"No wonder free Americans are done pretending the gun argument is a rational debate and are responding with an extended middle finger – and the challenge to come and take their arms. The fact remains that any outright attempt to take the arms from tens of millions of American gun owners would almost certainly result in a second Civil War. And we all know how the first Civil War went for the Democrats."
American gun owners are beginning to respond with a fresh, powerful argument when facing anti-gun liberals. Here it is, in its entirety. Ready? “Screw you.” That’s it. Except the first word isn’t “Screw.”
It’s not exactly a traditional argument, but it’s certainly appropriate here. The fact is that there is no point in arguing with liberal gun-control advocates because their argument is never in good faith. They slander gun owners as murderers. They lie about their ultimate aim, which is to ban and confiscate all privately owned weapons. And they adopt a pose of reasonability, yet their position is not susceptible to change because of evidence, facts or law. None of those matter – they already have their conclusion. This has to do with power – their power.
You can’t argue with someone who is lying about his position or whose position is not based upon reason. You can talk all day about how crime has diminished where concealed carry is allowed, while it flourishes in Democrat blue cities where gun control is tightest. You can point to statistics showing that law-abiding citizens who carry legally are exponentially less likely to commit gun crimes than other people. You can cite examples of armed citizens protecting themselves and their communities with guns. You can offer government statistics showing how the typical American is at many times greater risk of death from an automobile crash, a fall, or poisoning than from murder by gun.
But none of that matters, because this debate is not about facts. It’s about power. The liberal anti-gun narrative is not aimed at creating the best public policy but at disarming citizens the liberal elite looks down upon – and for whom weapons represent their last-ditch ability to respond to liberal overreach. Put simply, liberal elitists don’t like the fact that, at the end of the day, an armed citizenry can tell them, “No.”
Molon Labe comes to mind.
"...free Americans are done pretending the gun argument is a rational debate...".
Exactly. Now if we could get the other 97% of 2A advocates to realize this...and support armed civil disobedience.
"I don't care about crime, I just want to get the guns." -- Sen. Howard Metzenbaum (D) Ohio
At least we could respect this guy's honesty about his intentions.
I called it the MIF argument:
All I need now is a flag or banner, but I suppose the Nyberg will do. As a practical matter, it says the same thing.
I'm not sure if the "screw you" is something new; i've been doing it for years
In 1964 this nation wanted/ask men to defend it and project it's will. Many answered the call, including me. They taught some, the skills needed to effect major change with very small numbers. If they think they will deprive us of weapons to defend self/family or those who can not defend they're self's, they will be mistaken all the way to their grave. The powers to be have created the criminal problem/element, mainly for they're own gain. Now they want to disarm the very folks who have obeyed the law up to this point. I for one am done with their BS, and will gladly awaken/import old skills, if need be. Like another poster says, no one is untouchable no one, and there are a few who have the skill sets an muscle memory that will die collecting for 100+ H's L&CC. The ball is in they're court, the path they choose is theirs an theirs alone.
EXACTLY. Never debate with your enemies; it's a complete waste of time and makes you look foolish.
I have a couple of other responses:
Come and take it! (Remember Gonzales?)
From my COLD, DEAD, GSR-BEGRIMED HANDS!!
Has a nice ring to it. Definitely gets your attention.
I am proud to be one of those that were on the cutting edge of the Armed Civil Disobedience, and still standing strong. Thanks to Mike V. for spreading the ACD across the nation. He is a Patriot among Patriots.
From behind enemy lines in Kommiecticut, where we continue to resist, defy, evade, and smuggle with NO active enforcement of the unconstitutional intolerable acts.
I believe some guy somewhere ( ;-) ) said, "If you try to take our guns we will kill you!" Perhaps eventually someone in the media will publish that as well.
I read an excellent post recently called: "The Gun Control Debate In A Nutshell". It went:
1. I have a gun.
2. You don't want me to have it.
3. I won't give it to you.
4. Your move......
We all know how the first Civil War went for the Democrats? Uh, rather well, actually. They might have been on the losing side in the South, but in terms of the war and its aftermath creating a Federal juggernaut that would propel them to previously unimaginable levels of control of all of society, the Dems got a tremendous benefit and a nice submissive partner in expanding government power.
And now Los Angeleans have something to give the finger about also: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/30/us-usa-guns-losangeles-idUSKCN0Q425020150730
"Take my weapons, of ANY sort"?=
Now get the F out of my yard & fields, get back in your Nazi Wagon or you die 1st. I'll die last, when do you want to start this race.
Ah!!! The "Fickle Finger Of Fate!!!!!" Good rendition......I have another I'm sending you. Stay tuned, don't touch that dial.......just think......"The Revolution will not be televised!!" It has gotten to this point........the....."Flash Point!!!!" Anyone remember anything from basic ChemI Class?? We are "THERE!!"
Some time ago I took this stance when arguing with gun-grabbers. I decided that their minds were made up, so I quit wasting my time quoting facts, statistics, founding fathers quotes and bible verses. None of it matters.
Mike, you said it best: "If you try to take our guns, we'll kill you".
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