Thursday, March 10, 2011

LA Times: "Mexico lawmakers demand answers about guns smuggled under ATF's watch."



Something tells me that DOJ is going to need more patsies than just Gillette to throw under the bus on this one, and "Gunwalker Bill" seems made to order. He is, after all, the next one up the food chain. Bill, you're on my email list, are you ready to roll yet? I have Senator Grassley's number if you need it.

"Mexico lawmakers demand answers about guns smuggled under ATF's watch."

A legislator says at least 150 Mexicans have been killed or wounded by guns trafficked by smugglers being tracked by U.S. agents from the ATF. The charges may exacerbate already rocky U.S.-Mexico relations.

Reporting from Seattle and Mexico City:

Lawmakers in Mexico are demanding an investigation into a U.S. law enforcement operation that allowed hundreds of weapons to flow into the hands of Mexican drug cartels amid claims from a ranking legislator that at least 150 Mexicans have been killed or wounded by guns trafficked by smugglers under the watch of U.S. agents.

U.S. authorities say manpower shortages and the high number of weapons sold resulted in their losing track of hundreds of guns, from pistols to .50-caliber sniper rifles, though a federal agent deeply involved in the Phoenix-based operation said it was "impossible" that U.S. authorities did not know the weapons were headed for Mexico.

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has acknowledged that at least 195 weapons sold in Arizona under Operation Fast and Furious have been recovered in Mexico, traced as a matter of routine via serial numbers after their recovery from crime scenes, arrests and searches.

The Mexican lawmaker did not say how the new casualty statistics were calculated. But the estimates, which could not be independently confirmed, provide troubling new fallout from an investigation in which guns sold to suspected smugglers in the U.S. already have been linked to the deaths of two U.S. law enforcement agents.

Humberto Benitez Trevino, a federal deputy who chairs the justice committee in the lower chamber of Congress, the Chamber of Deputies, said in comments released by Congress this week that "we have 150 cases of injuries and homicides with arms that were smuggled and passed illegally into our country."

Benitez said the figure came from "sources," but he did not specify who the victims were or where shootings took place.

"This was an undercover program that wasn't properly controlled," Benitez said.

A U.S. law enforcement official on the border, who is a defender of the ATF program, said he didn't know how Mexican officials came up with the casualty figure. "It's probably just a good political thing to say, and how are you going to refute it?"

Nevertheless, the new information is bound to complicate U.S.-Mexico relations at a rocky time. Mexican President Felipe Calderon is already upset at U.S. Ambassador Carlos Pascual over a series of leaked diplomatic cables citing shortcomings in Mexico's 4-year-old war against drug cartels.

Mexican politicians have criticized the ATF program as a violation of Mexico's sovereignty and evidence of U.S. arrogance toward its southern neighbor.

Lawmakers from all of Mexico's main political parties have demanded to know whether Mexican authorities were aware of the program.

"This is a serious violation of international law," said lawmaker Carlos Ramirez Marin, a member of the opposition Institutional Revolutionary Party and president of the Chamber of Deputies. "What happens if next time they need to introduce trained assassins or nuclear weapons?"

The new claims came amid growing demands for an independent investigation in the U.S.

In Washington, Senate investigators are trying to determine whether the gun used in the attack that killed Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent Jaime Zapata in February — purchased at a Texas gun store in October — was smuggled into Mexico by buyers who were under investigation by ATF agents.

U.S. Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa), ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, has asked the ATF why the purchasers of the gun used in the attack on Zapata were not arrested in November, a month after they bought the weapon.

"After the delivery of the illegal weapons, the three men were stopped by local police. Why were these traffickers not thereafter arrested in November?" Grassley said in a letter to the agency, which asked whether the gun made its way into Mexico after this initial contact with law enforcement agents.

"Naturally, this raises questions about whether the ATF strategy of allowing [smugglers] to continue to operate in hopes of making bigger cases may have contributed to the shooting of ICE Agent Jaime Zapata."

Thomas Crowley, ATF spokesman in Dallas, said it was not known when the gun was transferred to Mexico.

But John Dodson, an ATF agent in Phoenix who worked on the Fast and Furious effort and became alarmed enough to alert Senate investigators, said in an interview that the number of guns sold to known traffickers under the eyes of the ATF was so large that it was "impossible" the agency didn't know the weapons were going to Mexico.

"The day I started, there were 240 guns they had let … out of Fast and Furious," he said. "Guns they were purchasing were showing up on both sides of the border already."

"I mean, … a guy comes in and purchases 10 AK-47s, and four of them he purchased last time have already shown up on the other side of the border? And you keep going?" Dodson said.

Dodson said the operation was based on a strategy change ordered by Washington in September that directed agents to go after not just low-level purchasers but high-level buyers in the cartels.

A copy of the strategy, obtained by The Times, specifies that the operation was to mainly involve sharing of intelligence across a wide variety of U.S. law enforcement agencies along with specially vetted units of Mexican law enforcement. But it envisioned the movement of weapons across the border.

"The controlled movement of firearms, ammunition, explosives, explosives devices, and/or components or non-functional 'props' of such items across the U.S.-Mexico border from the United States shall be coordinated with and approved in advance by Bureau headquarters and the MCO."

Dodson said the number of guns sold under the investigation grew dramatically — exceeding 1,500 by October — and none of the traffickers were being arrested.

"You keep hearing, 'It was a sting operation gone bad.' Or, 'We lost some guns.' That's not it. It was intentional and deliberate," Dodson said.

"We watched these people," he said. "We knew before they were going, we watched them get the money, go buy the guns, we watched them take them out of one vehicle and put them in another one in a parking lot, and we watched one guy go home and the other guy go south. And we couldn't do anything about it."

Atty. Gen. Eric H. Holder Jr. said Thursday he was taking "very seriously" the concerns expressed by some ATF agents over the investigation and has asked the inspector general to "get to the bottom of it."

"I've also made clear to people in the department that letting guns walk … is not something that is acceptable," Holder said in response to questions from Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-Texas) at an appropriations subcommittee hearing. "Guns are different than drug cases, or cases where we're trying to follow where money goes."


LATER: David's take.

AP story.

10 comments:

streetsweeper said...

Headsup, Michael!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_usa_mexico_guns

Shy Wolf said...

Mike, I gotta say that I get a very perverse feeling of pleasure that these ... lemme be polite... numbnuts are getting bathed in their own poop. And I ain't too awful certain I'm gonna beg forgiveness from anyone for feeling this even if I should.
Honestly, to know the fools involved with this- even the lowliest- deserve what they get.
Shy III

Jazz said...

Hmm.
FFT:
->On the one hand, our alleged government chooses to aide-and-abet known criminals in their efforts to get weapons into the hands of other known criminals, at least some of whom have been shown to use those self-same weapons to murder even some agents of our alleged government.
->On the other hand, that same alleged government wants to make thinking about the corrupt practices of our alleged government out to be an act of terrorism.
I always thought that an act of any kind ... required action?

Shy Wolf said...

Sorry, StreetSweeper- your article has been pulled.
Shy III

Anonymous said...

Interagency strike against Alaska Militia Movement!

http://www.adn.com/2011/03/10/1748613/fairbanks-militia-movement-targeted.html

http://www.newsminer.com/view/full_story/12286233/article-Law-enforcement-agencies-move-against-Sovereign-Citizen-movement-in-Fairbanks?instance=home_news_window_left_top_1

Anonymous said...

Hey! If you're gonna make an omelette, you gotta break some eggs... Isn't that what ATF told their agents?

Well, the chickens are coming home to roost.

Pineywoods Patriot said...

Looks like senate Judicary has jumped on the band wagaon.

http://judiciary.house.gov/news/pdfs/HJC%20Gunrunner%20Letter.pdf

How Many weapons have been allowed to pass to Mexico under the program known as “Fast & Furious”? Is the program still active?
Who at ATF HQ approved the program?
Who in the US Attorney Office for the District of Arizona approved the program? On what authority did the Office approve the program?
Did ATF or the US Attorney’s Office in Phoenix coordinate the “Fast & Furious” program with the Dept.? Did the Dept. approve the strategy?

WarriorClass said...

There is still the question of how big an operation this is. Was the ATF allowing gun sales to American Gangs? Is this part of Obama's plan to arm a "civilian" army, while working to disarm the rest of us?

Stock pile all the ammo and large capacity magazines you can; the other side certainly is!

WarriorClass
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Anonymous said...

"[T]he operation [Fast and Furious] was to mainly involve sharing of intelligence across a wide variety of U.S. law enforcement agencies ALONG WITH SPECIALLY VETTED UNITS OF MEXICAN LAW ENFORCEMENT. But it envisioned the movement of weapons across the border."

If Mexican law enforcement was "in the loop" then Operation Fast and Furios could only have been coordinated between BHO and Calderon. You may be certain the opposition party (PRI) is striving to make this connection.

MALTHUS

Anonymous said...

Here's a novel idea: Why don't we pull the 28,000 troops out of Korea that we have protecting THEIR border and put them on OUR southern border ?

With personnel mines strewn along our southern border and American troops with orders to shoot to kill ANY body in a designated "No Mans Land" strip, we would soon eradicate invasion and the transfer of weapons across our border.

It's not difficult to do. But not one soul in D.C. has the balls to proclaim and work toward the above.

DAN
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