Thursday, January 23, 2014

Proposed Illinois gun ban for medical marijuana users points to larger issues

Patients obtaining medical marijuana in Illinois will give up their state-recognized right to own guns if a proposal by the Illinois Department of Public Health is approved, the Chicago Tribune reported Tuesday. “The plan outlines how adults who have any of 41 specified medical conditions, such as cancer, AIDS or complex regional pain syndrome, may apply to get a patient registry identification card to purchase medical pot,” the report explains.


Anonymous said...

Moral: if you're going to smoke pot and also want to purchase firearms, get it the easy, old-fashioned way, and stay off the state's radar.

Anonymous said...

"Please, come to Denver. . ."

Shawn McEwen said...

I have to say that I'm not a fan of pot. I've known many people over the years that have abused it, and that has caused me to be ideologically against it. I have also come to realize recently that the abuse (and just to be clear here: abuse and recreational use are two very different things) was more a product of the individual's moral compass rather than the pot. That being said, I don't think the Feds have any right to regulate/control its use by ANYONE. This is a states' rights issue pure and simple, and Illinois is getting it wrong. Also, in keeping with one of my favorite arguments "guns don't kill. People do" I would have to say that pot doesn't create addicts, people do.

It seems to me that this (medical Marijuana) isn't a regulatory issue as much as the federal government needing to save an enormous amount of face over that 30+ year old war on drugs...... which hasn't worked at all. And what a surprise that they are now using the declared "legal use" of pot as grounds to deny citizens' Constitutional Right to keep and bear arms. It's the 2 most despised things on the face of the planet (according to ATF and all the "anti's") all rolled into one. In fact, I think I just found the moral justification to start smoking pot!

One more thing, the idea that we as a society should acquiesce to the suspension of certain individuals' CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS based on their pain managing habits, while there remains no dependable, or even sane standard of prosecution and punishment for real criminals is about the dumbest damned thing I've ever heard of. You monkeys in Washington, and Illinois by extension had better clean your house.

There's a new train pulling into the station, and it's called personal sovereignty. You can either get on board or get run the @#*&%! over.

Anonymous said...

Seeing as how the carry law requires a person to give up some rights in order to be allowed to carry, it fits perfectly that pot smokers would have to waive some rights. It's the Chicago way. Con people into thinking they have no choice but to waive some rights to be allowed others.

Seeing as how the NRA is helping Illinois state police implement one set of rights waiving I can't see how it will say one word about this development. The NRA has "dealt" itself into a corner where it CANT oppose or support this. Either way, the wicked hypocrisy is quite self evident.

The NRA, at least in Illinois, is a joke. A bad joke. It has literally helped Illinois increase gun control legislatively - ushering right back in the exact language a federal court struck down as unconstitutional, along with a newly created permission slip system (at a cost of 35 million so far ) that didn't exist prior that contains pages and pages of brand new gun control legislation just eagerly awaiting pages and pages more of rules and regulations.

Thisigjt he about pot but it's clear- the NRA MUST BE SMOKIN CRACK!

If yer homeless you cannot legally own a firearm. No address no FOID. If you are too poor to pay the five hundred bucks or so and or refuse to waive this that and the other rights you can't carry legally either.
Now, if you are sick and or disabled (often poor also) you are forced to choose - medicine or self defense.

So there you have it. The NRA doesn't care about sick and disabled poor people. They have nooney to give NRA "trainers" and their butt buddy politicians - so screw them. Forget about them. Ignore them.

For SHAME! Shame on every NRA member who remains silent and goes along with what the NRA is doing and not doing here in Illinois. Shame on all of you who support leaving the poor and especially disabled - the weakest and least able to physically defend themselves- out in the cold - defenseless, disarmed.

But hey, celebrate your low number permits all you like. You fools have to live with what you have done. When you lay down to sleep at night your dreams will be filled with all those you have forsaken. And one day you will wake up and see that your thirty pieces of silver is gone....... While another night if dreams awaits you.

Absolutely pathetic.

Anonymous said...

And yet Obama has publicly stated that alcohol is more dangerous than pot...yet as the leader of the executive branch charged with enforcing laws, he's decided to continue to persecute marijuana users and likely supports this type of gun ban proposal for people who smoke pot, yet drinkers get a pass.