Sunday, February 22, 2015

New Jersey dispute repeats familiar pattern of pushing out gun ranges

I speak from personal experience recalling a local range that was closed in Ohio after a development was built nearby, even though everyone -- the developers, the realtors, the lending institutions and the home purchasers -- knew it was there and sold and bought property with that knowledge and with all required disclosures. And I've noted the same thing happening elsewhere. The home owners would no doubt squawk like hell should the same government they’re turning to now decide that their property would be more valuable as a township revenue generator, as happened in the notorious Kelo decision.

6 comments:

Anonymous said...

Just where is the enumerated power to "zone" our rights literally out of existence? When privilege is defined as a permission granted by government, then it is empowered to create zones where it grants and denies those permissions.

We might wanna rethink that foolish, idiotic, pathetic "gun rights" bumper sticker that says "bearing arms is a right, not a privilege...

Gubmint can "zone" all kinds of things to its hearts content -especially when its advisory in nature, but it simply has no authority to deny us exercise of our rights as it does so.

Anonymous said...

Why do battered women return their abusers?

Why do Jews live anywhere in Europe?

Why are there still gun owners in New Jersey?

Because denial is not a river in Africa.

Anonymous said...

Same thing has happened here in AZ. In fact, if government and nearby homeowners had their way, one of the nicest ranges in the country, Ben Avery Range, in North Phoenix would be shut down, too.

AJ said...

Removing suppressors from NFA would go a long way towards making the proximity of a gun ranges a non-issue.

Bluesgal said...

To Anon - I am one of those that live near Ben Avery and spend time educating the neighbors that they singed numerous papers acknowledging it was there and it isn't going anywhere and we the neighbors want to keep it there, if they don't like it they can exercise their right to move.

The City of Phoenix makes no $$ off of it because it is run by the State Dept of Game and Fish and our local councilman has been informed we want it right where it is.

It is up to the local residents to make sure the ranges stay where they are. Get involved people. Personally, it's the sound of freedom from my backyard.

PS. Ben Avery is the largest public range in the US. It has numerous ranges for specialties from 3,000 yards, cowboy shooting, archery and shotgun. $7 per person and you can shoot as long as you want to :-)

PSS. Yes, you can shoot full auto there as well (with a few rules)

Paul X said...


"I speak from personal experience recalling a local range that was closed in Ohio after a development was built nearby, even though everyone -- the developers, the realtors, the lending institutions and the home purchasers -- knew it was there and sold and bought property with that knowledge and with all required disclosures."

People in government lied? Contracts were violated? No shit? How could that possibly have happened? (/sarcasm)

"Just where is the enumerated power to 'zone' our rights literally out of existence?"

It's not enumerated. It's just there. "Might makes right." All you have to do to detect it, is to observe reality. Take the blinders off.

People do this kind of shit because they can get away with it, because they experience no cost. When there start being adverse consequences, then they will stop.