Tuesday, November 1, 2011

Pretty geriatric "militia." What does ricin have to do with "saving the Constitution"? The only idiots I ever heard interested in ricin were neoNazis.

Call me skeptical:

Four North Georgia men charged in alleged covert militia plot.

Four North Georgia men, alleged members of a fringe militia group, on Tuesday were charged with trying to buy explosives and make a deadly toxin to use in attacks against federal law enforcement agencies and unidentified officials.

Federal authorities said the men had held clandestine militia meetings, beginning in March, in which they discussed using toxic agents and assassinations to undermine federal and state government.

The four men taken into federal custody were: Frederick Thomas, 73, of Cleveland; and Toccoa residents Dan Roberts, 67; Ray H. Adams, 65; and Samuel J. Crump, 68.

U.S. Attorney Sally Yates said that as the U.S. government focuses on terrorist threats by violent international extremists, “This case demonstrates that we must also remain vigilant in protecting our country from citizens within our borders who threaten our safety and security.”

Thomas, Roberts, Adams and others who attended the meetings discussed targeting various government officials, federal authorities said. The meetings were monitored by the FBI and secretly tape recorded by a confidential informant helping the FBI, according to sworn affidavits unsealed Tuesday.

Roberts’ wife, Margaret, 59, said last night that she was shocked by the day’s developments, which included FBI agents handcuffing her while they searched the rural Toccoa home she has shared with her husband for more than two decades.

“My husband would not hurt anybody and anybody who knows him knows he wouldn’t hurt anybody,” Margaret Roberts said, her voice trembling. “Dan has always respected the law. He’s never had a problem with the law.”

Thomas was described in affidavits as a leading speaker at the meetings. He discussed having a “bucket list” of government officials, business leaders and members of the media who needed to be “taken out” to “make the country right again,” the affidavit said.

Thomas also said he was a military veteran who had been to war and had taken a life, and said he could do it again, the affidavit said.

“There’s no way for us, as militiamen, to save this country, to save Georgia, without doing something that’s highly illegal: murder,” Thomas said during a meeting in March, according to the affidavit. "...When it comes to saving the Constitution, that means some people gotta die."

Dan Roberts said he knew people in Habersham County who had a substance that could kill people, the affidavit said, and the discussion next turned to ways to obtain castor beans. Castor beans are used to make ricin, a deadly toxin that can be fatal if inhaled or ingested.

During a September meeting, also secretly recorded, Crump said he wanted to make 10 pounds of ricin and disperse it in various U.S. cities, including Atlanta, the affidavits said. Crump said ricin could be blown from a car traveling on the interstates, the affidavit said. Adams is accused of trying to help Crump obtain ricin for use as a weapon, authorities said.

As recently as last week, Crump allegedly said he was going to begin shelling the castor beans, and Adams said he had a formula to make ricin and identified ways to get the necessary ingredients for it, the affidavits said.

Anybody ever heard of these guys?


Brock Townsend said...

Nope, but my guess is that they were entrapped as was my friend.

Entrapped Justin Moose Gets 30 Months

ParaPacem said...

What a steaming load of Holder.
One more perfectly timed media propaganda article to give the lamestream media an excuse to ignore F&F. How con-veeeen-ient!

I understand that they planned on having a souped up motorized wheelchair and a walker fitted out with pogo-stick springs to make their getaway.
What a load of crap, and the pathetic thing is that the Obongo groups assume the rest of the 'non-elite' America is stupid enough to swallow it.

Anonymous said...

Sounds like another false flag on the order of the Hutaree Milita and the Iranian assasination plot. They need more distractions to keep the focus away from Fast and Furious. Whatever this shakes out to be, the lesson here is to keep your mouths shut and be very careful who you associate with.

Anonymous said...

There is this from -http://www.freeforum101.com/outcastsandoutl/viewtopic.php?p=176&mforum=outcastsandoutl#176
Maybe they know something.

For the record, Captain Dan Roberts, one of those busted, was a member of the Militia of Georgia when the elected leadership was ousted by white supremacists. Roberts backed the faction that falsely accused the leader of the Militia of Georgia of "teaching members how to build silencers and urging members to shoot police at roadblocks."

That incident gave the pretext for Georgia LEOs to initiate a plan to raid the home of the C.O. for the Militia of Georgia, execute him and claim that he resisted arrest. The media got wind of the plot and the matter ended up in court with at least one LEO claiming protection under the so - called "Patriot Act." The LEO community lost that fight.

Roberts began supporting the Georgia Militia (a rip-off of the real Militia of Georgia.) Members of that group became Confidential Informants for the LEO community and another Georgia Militia was spun off or was part of the old Georgia Militia Inc. The new group featured members of the old Inc. version (that was full of informants) and Darren Wesley Huff (a self proclaimed Christian Identity minister) was arrested back in April of 2010 in an alleged plot to take over a courthouse in Madisonville, Tennessee.

Anonymous said...

I'm thinking the "CI" proposed the whole thing and whipped them into a frenzy about protecting themselves and their loved ones. I would bet a considerable sum on it, in fact, were I a betting man!

D.C. Wright
USMC Retired
(so you f***ing Feebs know who to look for!)

Pat H. said...

Ricin is made from the Castor Bean plant, anyone can make it.

It was made somewhat famous by the assassination of a man by the Bulgarian intelligence service some 40 years ago, give or take, by inserting a tiny metal ball with holes in it, and filled with ricin which was released over time.

I don't remember the names, but I do think at least one documentary was made about it.

Anonymous said...


Be careful what you write, be careful what you read, be careful what you say...

Sounds like my America.

They have gone out of their way to hit every wire coming through because they have no conscience or respect for anything but themselves and their power and want everyone to know it.

Anonymous said...

Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.

Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;

But will they come when you do call for them?--Henry IV Part 1, Act 3

When the glorious rebel, Henry Percy (""Hotspur), resolves to remove the crown from Henry the Fourth (as Henry had done to his own brother, Richard), he looks around for reliable allies.

As it was then, so is it now; good men are difficult to find in support of a righteous cause.

Take note of how Hotspur dismisses Glendower's promised aid and learn this lesson: The fool makes boasts but the wise make preparations.

A wool blanket, water purification kit, ability to capture small animals with traps or snares and a military-grade rifle with a
sling and 1,000 rounds of ammunition makes for better resistance than a bucket of magic beans.

O Esperance!


WV: verintio--Lat. "In action there is truth." :^)

Anonymous said...

I am quite sceptical that the plan included efforts to simply drive around Atlanta and spray Ricin from a moving vehicle. Makes no sense and seems to have been thrown in to either make them more "terrorist like" or to imply that they simply wanted to kill minorities. Everyone in North Georgia however knows that the highways of Atlanta go through the areas of Atlanta that are business and or condos. All of the old housing projects that were near the connector are gone and have been for years. You could not get to "da 'hood" unless you get off the highways and hit the surface streets. I dont see Constitutional militiamen commiting mass murder on Coke employees, Ga Tech students and the Varsity. Not really making much sense here.


Longbow said...

At first glance, it looks to me like Mr. Crump IS the snitch in this case.

The same tactic is used again and again. Create the problem, demonstrate the problem, then swoop in with overwhelming force to provide the solution.

Does anyone else see a pattern here?

Anonymous said...

My prayers and good wishes go out to you Mike Vanderboegh. This attempt on the part of the Fed to defame those they wish to link to this Geriatric Gang is pathetic, but the Fed is off the rails Constitutionally and we really can't predict what they will do next (>2000 rifles to drug cartels, jeez louise!). So, keep safe and make sure an Arkansas suicide doesn't come knocking. Were I a security systems salesman, I'd send you my card. I mean it, you stay safe brother!

TPaine said...

What a crushing victory over 4 old men! Yet they can't catch armed drug-runners walking over the border with guns!

BTW, I heard that two of them had Hover-Rounds fitted with Chevy small-block V-8s - they could outrun the LEOs and disappear. One of them was equipped with a rocket launcher.

Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? This is so ridiculous as to be SNL fodder. Who was the mastermind who thought this one up?

Anonymous said...

Hello, FBI?

Yes. This is the FBI.

Hi FBI. We need a mentor.

What department please?

Militia terrorism please.

I'll connect you.

Thank you.

Militia terrorism mentoring department. How can I help you?

Well, this is the plan... blah, blah, blah. We just need some mentoring ... you know, technical advice. And a little push in the right direction.

Sounds like a great plan. When would you like to start?

As soon as possible.

No problem. We just need to get our agents in place.

Good. See you all soon.