I just see this going better in their heads than in real life.
"Obama has set the precedent for executive action on guns. The Ninth Circuit has ruled that your right isn't really a right at all. The gun manufacturers and the NRA are openly targeted for government retribution. The Supreme Court is going to have a new face. And the propaganda machine has never been more active. Add that up.
They're coming for them. This is how you disarm Americans. Well, the ones who obey the law, anyway."
9th Circuit Paves The Way To Ending Gun Rights
Yet this incrementalism is the explicit goal of the left. Of course Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama will never say they want to ban all firearms. Instead, they’ll just destroy the right to bear arms piecemeal: they’ll say that you have no right to open carry, you have no right to concealed carry, and you have no right to have guns in the home. Voila! Gun rights destroyed. The left uses the same logic to destroy freedom of religion: you have no right to practice your religion in the workplace, you have no right to teach your children your religion, your church has no right to operate as a business in the public sphere. Voila! Religious rights destroyed.
This is how the Constitution is rendered meaningless: not in one giant full-frontal assault, but day by day, case by case. This is also why the Second Amendment matters. The government that can carve away your gun rights can carve away all the other ones, too.
Hillary Clinton’s Gun Confiscation Plan Revealed
I imagine that there will be a few "scofflaws" here if his happens.
"On every question of construction, let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed."
— Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Johnson, June 12, 1823
But again, who gives a rodent's posterior what Jefferson said? He's another of those old dead white guys who owned slaves. Time to get rid of him and put Jesse Jackson's face on the nickel. And that big building on the Potomac would be a great place for more public housing.
This Republic was founded per/via illegal acts,per the laws of the day. When 3% had enough it was game on. Once they make you a felon, everything there after is free.
The Gun Control Gnomes plan something like this:
1. Render The Second Amendment null and void.
3. End gun violence.
Aside from the obvious need to work a bit on fleshing out step two, they're not really up to speed on a few essentials.
1. The foundation of our RKBA resides in natural law, not in the Second Amendment. If the entire U S Government had never existed I would still have a right to life, and a right to the means to defend it.
2. The American people have spent the last seven years, and in a downwards or sideways economy, investing in a large but unknown number, estimated to be in the millions, of what the left likes to call assault weapons, and in an equally large but unknown number, estimated to be in the trillions, of rounds of ammunition to feed those weapons. They didn't spend their scarce cash in the most difficult economy since the Great Depression so that they would have something to turn in on Confiscation Day.
3. The simple fact of the matter is that the NRA, regardless of what the press releases and fund raising letters from Fairfax say, has not been a very good defender of RKBA. One single lawyer, Alan Gura, and those who funded him has done more to defend RKBA than NRA/ILA has accomplished in its entire history. Were a second Clinton administration to declare NRA to be a domestic terrorist organization and force it to disband they would not achieve their nationwide gun free zone nirvana.
4. The mindset of some Americans, hopefully enough, is still fundamentally different from that of our British, Canadian or Australian cousins. Our ancestors did not patiently wait for the Crown to grant them independence. They fought a bloody eight year war to seize it. We will not disarm because Hillary or any of her like tells us to do so.
That's right, boss, the law abiding, anyway.
Due to my participation in The Armed Civil Disobedience of Non-Compliance (proudly since 1994 in Kommiecticut), I am not considered "law abiding". I am a "Peaceable Citizen Patriot." Therefore, if they ever come for my arms, I WILL KILL THEM! without hesitation or mercy. FYI, my "100 Heads" policy premiums are paid up, feel free to collect on my behalf.
Luckily for me, I guess, I am not what the tyrants would consider "low hanging fruit." They won't get around to me until they scrap the 4th Amendment to go house to house. By then, I will probably have already fought and died battling tyrants at the homes of my fellow Patriots.
As always, their move.
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Law abiding my ass! What these fools are ignorant to is that civilians with guns outnumber liberal gun grabbers something like 100 to 1. We know what a 'seek and destroy squad' or a 'hunter killer squad' is for and how to set them up with a target list. They will be well versed and practiced in long range marksmanship like most elk hunters are. There will will hundreds of independent squads working out of all fifty states. Their instructions will be along the lines of, "find and kill all liberals". That would include all communists, socialists, progressives and democrats as well as their supporting mouth pieces in media.
All this will com to pass when they try to instigate confiscation measures. Bet on it!
Sorry. Gotta remain anonymous with this one.
The Ninth Circus Court ruling only applies to the jurisdiction of that particular court. That covers California, Alaska, Arizone, Hawaii, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, Oregon, Washington state. And Guam and Northern Marianas. Notice that list covers Ruby Ridge, the Bundy ranch and several other places with high profile federal interference with the locals.
That rat McConnell must not let anyone Obama picks sit on the Supreme Court. Merrick Garland is anti-gun. McConnell is a weak man so it will be difficult for him to refuse to consider Obama nominees.
To state the obvious, we are at a very dangerous tipping point. A third party candidate like Libertarian Gary Johnson cannot win, but he can siphon enough votes to throw the presidential race to Hillary. So could neocon Bill Kristol's candidate if he finds someone to run against Trump.
Even a pro-2A president will only hold the tide of gun grabbers back for 4 or 8 years. But that's something.
Play close attention to the gubmint's urgent push into A.I., armed drones, and tactical robotics, folks.
When "they" finally come full out for your guns, "they" won't have to worry about being harmed. It'll be a group of armed heli-drones....some flying, some rolling on tracks and wheels, all run by a guy 20 miles away watching it play out live on his personal computer screen.
Part of their method is to attack the supply side. And that facet will work - retailers will not risk money trying to fight an unlawful government, and manufacturers simply cannot afford to.
One solution to that is to recognize what is being attacked. In this case, it is distribution of mass produced items. A way to evade is to foster distribution of not-produced items.
Any idiot can make a gun, and a damned good one. It is making that same gun twice, or 1,000 times that is hard. And that can be the undoing of Our Masters - they believe that making a gun is hard.
The last time a government tried disarming the citizens didn't turn out too well for that government (1775).
"This is how you disarm Americans. Well, the ones who obey the law, anyway." This is how you make more outlaws....
Anon 12:18 - What's hard is making money making guns. An individual can make enough for his own needs easily enough - the materials aren't expensive, and his time is sort of free - if he makes a living doing something else. Also, after you make a few it gets easier - thus cheaper.
Joe - so who's guarding that guy 20 miles away?
Governor Responds ‘Texas Style’ to Anti-Gun 9th Circuit Court Ruling
Texas Governor Greg Abbott responded in the clearest way any Texan could to the ruling by the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals’ ruling that American’s don’t have the right to carry a concealed handgun. The governor invoked Texas’ original response to gun control activists, “Come and Take It.”
This is exactly why bowing to the premise of permits, permission slips, is so damn dangerous! Conditioning people to bow to permits is just a stepping stone. First they establish the premise that the power of permission belongs to government, then they disaloow a permission, then another, then another, then three more. Next thing you know, they simply deny all permissions. Prohibition accomplished.
Hey all you TRUMP supporters.........(D)onal(D) is all about the permission power belonging to government, just like the corrupt NRA. Pssssssst - that makes them controllers, whether you folks want to admit it or not is a different point. And THAT is why it matters not if Hillary is elected. The Uniparty, and its pony boy media, have already arranged their pride and joy--- A New York Liberal will be the Next President either way this shakes out.
Fuck the NRA. their official stance on open carry, is that they do not support it. Great job NRA ! Nothing but a faggot political lobby that supports and helps to write the actual infringing legislation all across the country. Is the NRA really in liberty's corner ? Nope, not even close. They are helping the new world order slowly take all the arms away. The only thing the NRA needs to be supporting is our god given right to bear arms. Any deviation, compromise, or infringement on that simple principle is 100 percent wrong and immoral. The NRA likes to take your money and then tell your dumb indoctrinated asses who to vote for. Like I said, fuck the NRA and anybody who wants to compromise any of my fucking god given rights.
Use them or lose them....either way....damned if ya do, damned if ya don't!
My final dealings with the NRA was when they supported a Corrupt State Senator (who got my ccdw revoked) vs. a guy who was a LtCol in the National Guard who is still in favor of CCDW. Corrupt Senator is long gone but I still own the web site of (his-name) dot net (which cannot be traced) that exposes all of the crooked former state Senators crimes and rackateering connections. The INTERNET can be used to expose those BASTARDS for the criminals they are. Dot com sites can be identified, but Dot NET sites are invisible when it comes to exposing PUBLIC CORRUPTION and sure can and DO make a difference. Many ways to smear the crooked bastards to get rid of the SCUM.
The NRA is clearly the best way we have to fight the gun-grabbers in Congress and the State Legislatures. We are 5 million members strong and have the best lobbyists in the business and the biggest budget to engage in the fight for the 2nd Amendment. If we didn't have The NRA our gun rights would already be gone! If Hillary becomes the next president our gun rights will be gone - not from Congress but from the Supreme Court justices she will appoint! So, go to the polls in November and vote for Trump! He will veto any legislation that attacks the 2nd Amendment and will appoint Justices and judges who will protect the 2nd Amendment.
= Old Greybeard
To Old Graybeard...
Your "gun rights" come from your God; not from your government.
The 2nd Amendment tells the government what they cannot do...."shall not be infringed".
They cannot remove that which they have not given.
See Anon 6/11 @11:18
Good luck and good hunting.
Hey. Just because government didn't give us the right to keep and bear arms doesn't mean they don't try to take the right away. Government at all levels is almost constantly trying to take away our rights. ALL the rights in the Bill of Rights come from our Maker and government is supposed to protect those rights. I don't think anything I said denies that. The Constitution is an agency agreement, similar to the contract an NFL player or an actor makes with his agent. In the Constitution, the states and the people are the principal and the government is the agent. The agent is NOT the boss.
- Old Greybeard
There has never been a government that banned it's own ARMED FORCES from "Keeping and Bearing" ARMS.
Find one government in the history of humanity that felt a need to document a "RIGHT" for it's ARMED FORCES to possess ARMS.
Oppressive Governments are ALWAYS banning the People'S RIGHTS to arms.
The claim that the Founding Fathers wrote the 2nd Amendment to give Our ARMED FORCES a "right" to keep and carry ARMS is S-T-U-P-I-D.
The only reason for the Second Amendment is to clearly spell-out the GOD GIVEN RIGHT of INDIVIDUALS to keep & bear ARMS.
The only reason for the BILL(list) of RIGHTS was to codify INDIVIDUALS' GOD GIVEN RIGHTS.
Has there ever been a government that was not chock full of it's "rights" up to and including declaring itself to be the Lord God Almighty?! (Rome, Egypt, Israel,etc)
Does the 1st Amendment mean the GOVERNMENT is allowed to give speeches? Try shutting up any Politician. But THEY would LOVE to shut YOU up, hence the FIRST Amendment.
Anyone who tells you the 2nd Amendment applies to the Army or State Militia, is telling you they think you are STUPID.
There has NEVER been a government that felt it had to codify it's army's/soldier's "RIGHT" to "Keep and BEAR ARMS" because there has NEVER been a government that refused to allow It's own soldiers to KEEP and BEAR ARMS!
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