Friday, June 10, 2016

Road Pirates

Not the fun kind.

This kind.
"Now, the Oklahoma Highway Patrol has a device that also allows them to seize money on prepaid cards.
It's called an ERAD, or Electronic Recovery and Access to Data machine, and OHP began using 16 of them last month.  
Here's how it works. If a trooper suspects a person may have money tied to some type of crime, the highway patrol can scan and seize money from prepaid cards.  OHP stresses troopers do not do this during all traffic stops, only situations where they believe there is probable cause."
And then they say. "Troopers insist this isn't just about seizing cash".
The rebuttal?  Get this:
"If you can prove that you have a legitimate reason to have that money it will be given back to you. And we've done that in the past," Vincent said about any money seized.
You now have to prove why you have money by whatever metric that "legitimate" is.  At least in Oklahoma.  If this is being field tested in flyover country, how quick would you reckon that this will become adopted in the socialist enclaves? 
Yeah, okay Pal.  I don't even know why we are pretending to still have legitimacy of the rule of law anymore. 



B-4 said...

Thefts, come in many rags while the worst have state backing. The problem continues with the mfg getting a kick back as well. When it starts and no amount of money will stop the violence, for years of legalized theft. Remember once your made a felon, by your own hand or actions by others, lawless acts going forward, are free. I believe the man up stairs will understand, once the truth comes forward. B-4

Anonymous said...

"I don't even know why we are pretending to still have legitimacy of the rule of law anymore."

I do.

"Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed." -- Declaration of Independence

Essentially, the answer to your question is that to most folks, the evils, if they even view them as evils, are still sufferable.

To some, the monster under the bed is only a figment of their imagination, that is, as long as they resist looking under the bed. Their real fear is that if they look, they will find that the monster they imagine is very real. And as a result they will resist every effort you or I or anyone makes to get them to look. And perhaps even worse, they will deny the monster exists even if it is right in front of their faces.

Anonymous said...

Theft is still theft. Wrapping it with the color of law does not make it legal in my eye. With governments getting desperate for money, they will use this more and more. Think of governments as heroin addicts- always looking for their next fix and will do anything to get it. Until they start getting planted, they will continue to abuse the population like a battered housewife.

Anonymous said...

Short term solution ....take money out of any bank or credit union. Keep holdings in cash, gold, silver, trade commodities (fuel, food and lead are always good too!). Don't travel with cash, travel with travelers checks and use only limited prepaid cards that burn out. That will also screw up the banks.....another good win since they are the handmaidens of the state (or is the other way around!). And of course, avoid OK.

Anonymous said...

Two things going on here: Conditioning cops to "just follow orders" and conditioning the population to "follow the orders of the people who enforce the laws."


Sedition said...

Dumbasses. They just put an even bigger target on cops' backs.

Anonymous said...

ROL In this country is over, has been .. it just takes the general population way too long to wake up any more , and many choose to remain oblivious mostly because the truth of the matter scares their pissy ass pants off

when we the people start acting like the Rule of Law is over ,, thats when you will see the PAB shit their drawers

Just like this so called 2nd amendment ruling in CA.. my approach to that is ..FINE no concealed carry? EVERY gun owner strap them on right out in clear view !wear the biggest pistol you own! make them understand what they just asked for , rub their freakin noses in it

no rule of law? how abut anarchy ..take yer pick

Unclezip said...

As I've heard before, it's no longer "Rule Of Law", but "Rule By Law".

Anonymous said...

In Heller, SCOTUS ruled that the right mentioned in 2A is one of the inalienable rights mentioned by Jefferson in The Declaration of Independence, that it included the right to "keep and bear" a handgun while in one's home and that the amendment prohibited the kinds of laws that existed in DC banning such possession. In McDonald, SCOTUS ruled that the prohibitions in the 2A applied to the states, not just to the Federal Government or to the enclave of DC. In these two cases they left many areas regarding who may carry what, where, and in what fashion up in the air but ruled that the right does extend outside of the walls of your home and the boundaries of your property.

So it seems clear that a government that must allow carry in some fashion cannot ban both concealed and open carry, and that the right cannot be restricted in such a fashion, such as California's allowing the open carry of unloaded weapons, as to make it useless to the purposes recognized by SCOTUS, protection of lives and in some instances property.

In other words, California and every other government must eventually find some rational way for its law abiding citizens to legally carry loaded weapons as they go about their daily lives. A blanket prohibition of both concealed carry and open carry of loaded weapons won't stand long term any more than Chicago's or DC's bans.

Or the various governments may choose to ignore the language of the 2A and become something other than what many of their citizens consider to be a "lawful government".

I believe Jefferson had some things to say about that as well.

But who the **** cares what he said. He's and old dead white guy who owned slaves. Right?

Bill St. Clair said...

Asset forfeiture is not new, only this way of collecting it.

Extortion (taxation) and counterfeiting (fiat currency) are the way governments work.

In asset forfeiture cases, not only do you have to prove that your money is innocent, you have to pay a bond, with a short time limit, to even go to court.

Scott said...

Highway robbery used to be a capital offense. Perhaps it should be again.

Anonymous said...

I'm wondering if it's possible to load avirus on a prepaid card magnetic strip. They ask for the card you give it to them and it shuts down their theft device. Anyone out there know about doing something like that?

Chiu ChunLing said...

Wouldn't work. Generally speaking there are very few ways left of putting something in data that isn't intended to be loaded as code and having it function as a virus...almost none if you're working with a tightly restricted data size. A lot of the tricks that used to work in some cases have been resolved.

And if the reader relies on firmware (pretty likely), then basically it's impossible.

Ultimately, what people have to do is just shoot criminals on sight, even if they're wearing stripper costumes.

Sedition said...

If it runs on WiFi, it has a weakness. Sniff enough packets and I'm sure someone can hijack or brick their sysetms.