Thursday, May 29, 2014

Praxis & Required Reading: Are You Talking to a Provocateur?

Folks, treat this as required reading. It is by a former supervisory DEA agent: The imagined look and persona of an agent provocateur in most people’s minds probably couldn’t be further from the truth. Most would probably picture the obscure, silent individual lurking in the back of the room while doing his best to conceal his identity and his movements. If you accept that image, you have also accepted the notion that the provocateur is really just peeking in on, documenting, and recording pre-existing criminal activities and shady plans going on around him. You haven’t faced the reality that the whole show is the production of the provocateur. . .
As a final comment, most countries in the world do not allow agent provocateur activity. It is expressly prohibited. Rather, it is an established legal principle that a lying government agent involved in criminal activity misrepresenting himself to the other parties cannot be excluded as a defendant in any criminal conspiracy that is charged as a result of his action. Otherwise, the validity of the assent of the private parties to the conspiracy, or the existence of the conspiracy itself, would be in question. Being a lying provocateur is not an acceptable court defense in those places for state actors who arrange to ship drugs, blow people up, shoot people, etc. The U.S. is not one of those places.

7 comments:

PNW_DPer said...

When I first read this, I especially liked the hat comment.

Anonymous said...

It's amazing what you can convince yourself is legal and moral, once the constitution and bill of rights no longer matter, and you eliminate God and religious principles from your equations.

But then there would be an antidote to this, if only history was not deliberately concealed from the public mind. If only truth were not murdered in it's bed, every night before it can rise and become the threat that it is to evil. Sadly, there is an army of assassins dedicated to this task. They are called the "media."

Mark Matis said...

Just remember that a favorite tactic of the Blue Wall is "infiltrate to incite and indict". as exemplified by the Hutaree militia and Four Grandpas in a Waffle House.

The stench is overwhelming.

Baja Blitzer said...

starting month 34 in Reese family VS USAA, well let's see if our God is greater than theirs....

Anonymous said...

Someone in my circle of friends e-mailed this to me yesterday and asked me if he should send it to all on our address lists. I screamed YES!! The commies in eastern Europe were masters at this trick back in the 70's and 80's. They'd start a "democracy" group (the leader being a KGB guy or the equivalent thereof) and when there were enough members they'd storm the meeting and arrest everyone. Here in upstate NY we have a "leader" of a local group (i won't mention this well know org.), who i personally do not trust for a variety of reasons. I've run through the reasons with others familiar with this person and they are now also wondering. I just stay away and let this person hang themselves eventually...

Mark Matis said...

I believe you have one too many "A"s in there, Baja Blitzer. Unless you were indeed talking about the insurance cooperative...

And Anonymous from May 29, 2014 at 3:51 PM, they will NEVER "hang themselves" because their handlers know EXACTLY who they are and will NEVER press charges against them. Just as the FedPig swill NEVER pressed charges against the "man" they sent to get Randy Weaver to shorten that gun.

Just how many FBI Agents and other "Law Enforcement" officers refused to work with Lon Horiuchi after he murdered Vicki Weaver in cold blood? Not to mention his actions at Waco. Tell me again how many "good cops" you think there are in this country...

Anonymous said...

"Pays more than things are worth" yep sure sign of a govt leech.