Friday, May 23, 2014

Federal court: police can break down door and seize guns without warrant or charges

The 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled that it is not a violation of constitutional rights if police break down a citizen’s door, search the home, and confiscate firearms, so long that they believe it is in the citizen’s best interest.

19 comments:

Anonymous said...

Glad I live in Texas.

Anonymous said...

Let's do the same to them; kick in the police station doors, take what and whom we want... no warrants needed. "Citizen's arrest for crimes against the Constitution" is reason enough for me.

SWIFT said...

It appears that the constitution is no longer valid at the 7th circuit, as well as the 9th. These rulings are setting up and increasing the possibility of some pushy Leo being sent to his/her reward. The noose tightens.

Anonymous said...

Yawn. The Defiant, still Get To Vote.
Heck, They Work even Harder at it, when Angry.

Pandora Smiles.

William Flatt said...

Let them try that in Indiana and they will need a large supply of bodybags... for their own guys. Indiana law provides for a potent combination of Castle/SYG defense including firing upon police who invade your home without a warrant, and where their conduct is felonious (i.e., violates 18USC242).

So let'em try, but they will learn the law of unintended consequences one way or another (easy or hard, the choice is theirs).

Anonymous said...

Total BS.

On a side note, I have a theory that cops have a gun fetish above and beyond what you'll find in the average gun owner. Proof? They rabidly tore the place apart looking for guns but totally ignored belts and ropes, medications and chemical products, plastic bags and blades of all types. They love guns, I mean really REALLY love guns!

Anonymous said...

Ya, cause Texas is a bastion of freedom. Can't even open carry in TexASS. :rolleyes:

Anonymous said...

Wonder if they have thin blue lines on thier bodybags?

Anonymous said...

I saw you fools at IMS. Not impressed.

Soon, SSeiu. Real soon.

Anonymous said...

I think if this happiness there could be a lot of job openings to
replace some very foolish cops. I
also believe it is well past time to start looking at the judges sitting on the 7th & 9th district courts for possible sudden lead
related retirement!

Kristophr said...

A good reason to have a safe house. A trailer hidden in a polebarn on a quarter acre of ag land will do.

If someone invites the vampires in, they get one gun at most, and you can then ban the concerned idiot who invited them in out of your life.

Anonymous said...

Sounds like another group of people who need to have their physical addresses published in multiple places and multiple different media. Might not hurt to publish addresses of Judge Stadtmueller and the "justices" of the 7th and 9th court of appeals.

Who can honestly say the republic is not well and truly FUBAR? Would an honest-to-goodness police state look any different?

Anonymous said...

Then there can be no mistake that the 'courts of injustice' have gone too far with this one, and have declared war on the people. Therefore, it is only right to fire first when anyone is observed on citizen's property, acting in preparation for an aggressive action. That death can justifiably be rained down on the aggressors without warning. That aid can, and should, be sought to defend against said aggression. No doubt these actions on behalf of a criminal justice system will eventually result in offensive actions being taken. Even onto their own properties. Can they (Judges) not see the fallacy and errors of their ways?

Anonymous said...

We have the castle doctrine here in Pa. also. It's. Amazing that the PTB actually believe that we won't shoot them if they try to enter w/o a warrant! If I seen 12-16 Leo coming in hot, I would take up a cover and concealment position and take the first 2 that entered, the rest would hunker down behind natural barriers and then its amazing what a fleet of fugasse would accomplish😋 This is for educational purposes only.
. Paul Paver Jr.

Anonymous said...

WTF quote: “Even if the officers did exceed constitutional boundaries,” the court document states, “they are protected by qualified immunity.”

Since when does government and its agents have "immunity" from constitutional boundaries? The constitution was put in place to put boundaries on government.

Anonymous said...

Qualified immunity is a synonym for title of nobility.

America is an exceptional nation, you see.
The law applies to everyone - except those with their titles of exception.

People don't even know the difference between democracy as a form of government and a republic. They think lobby groups advocate rights when they really advocate permissions. Fudds vote for Democrats cuz they protect "hunting".

Face it folks. We live amongst a nation of abject idiots.
We fought to and declared independence and then vampirism of lawyers and their Bar forfeited it all through the "legal" system.

It's already over and has been since long before any of us were born. Yet still some choose to live the illusion. There is no constitutional boundary. There is only a pretense of it.

Jimmy the Saint said...

@Anonymous: "The Defiant, still Get To Vote.
Heck, They Work even Harder at it, when Angry."

Defiant voters, like stupidity's many martyrs, have done little to advance either of their causes.

Paul X said...

Sometimes even my usual cynicism is boggled by the "justifications" cooked up by these kangaroo courts. I mean, seriously? It's OK because the cops supposedly had the person's best interests in mind? What then is the reason for the 4th Amendment? Is it against our interests? I guess we need to be protected from the 4th Amendment!

It must be nice to be a ruling class enforcer. Now they get to decide what our best interests are, independent of our own opinions on it. And I'm sure their own interests do not get included in the calculation at all...

The national security state keeps going merrily along the path to its own destruction. They probably are not even aware how this stuff looks to the rest of us.

Anonymous said...

As has been pointed out here before, The Constitution of the United States of America provides certain safeguards for the American people. It should also be pointed out here and everywhere that Benjamin Franklin put forward the concept that impeachment is a preferred alternative to assassination. In the other words, that same document, the one the current administration is busy wiping their behinds upon, also protects federal office holders at all levels.