One to the chest? Two to the pelvis and one to the head works much better.
But seriously, the number of cops who outright murder or attempt to murder nonresisting people and get a 'good shoot' pat on the back makes a cop with his gun drawn on you the most dangerous creature in the nation. The LAPD use of force board even cleared the idiots who shot 100+ rounds at a couple of newspaper delivery ladies during the Dorner manhunt, because there were (probably false) reports of Dorner being seen in the area the previous day, so everybody in the area was a free fire target, even if they were slowly driving away from you with their hazard lights flashing while they delivered newspapers.
Tampa, St.Pete area! A big blue stain on an other wise good state. Just like the big blue stains on other states. I wonder how long it will be till we start using some stain remover?
All the coverage I've seen says he was misquoted by the newspaper (how surprising).
--> “Picture this. … You take as an example a 60-year-old man who is unassuming, not a threat to anybody, just your average citizen who has a concealed-carry permit and carries that gun absolutely everywhere he goes,” Gualtieri said. “And he walks into his local bank today to make a deposit, and he walks into the middle of an armed robbery. And when he walks in — unassuming, non-threatening — and he’s got his gun and it’s concealed, when he walks into that bank, there’s a good chance that that bank robber is not going to be threatened by him and is not going to shoot him because he happened to walk into the middle of a bank robbery. And you take that same 60-year-old guy, and he walks in there, and he’s got a big old .45 on his hip when he walks through that door, and that bank robber’s in the middle of robbing that bank and he sees that gun, he’s going to take one in the chest … because he’s a threat, he’s a visible threat.”
So, they MSNBC'ed him, and cut out the middle of the quote to make him appear to threaten concealed carriers. Still not pro-open-carry, but the reporter is the one who screwed up. --> http://www.saintpetersblog.com/archives/247390
Huh?? If a person carrying concealed enters a bank during a robbery or not, who's going to know he's carrying? And how would that other someone know? If that other someone DOES know, then it ain't Concealed Carry.
W-T-F? Is wrong with this so-called Sheriff? Someone in that area, if you happen to come across this "LEO for Leo's sake", pat and feel around his head. When he asks what you're doing, tell him you're looking for the vacuum release valve for that cranial cavity between his ears.
Sounds like the Wild West heat is getting to the ol' Sheriff.... Can we just go back to a quick draw showdown at high noon ? Nah, I reckon that wouldn't be fair for Lilly liver'd tin star lawman now would it .......
These guys all, need to be held accountable for there lack of Psychological Stability. This assclown is not only a danger to his patrol area, but as a LE that can carry nation wide, a Direct Threat to Civilians Nation Wide!
I learned something new tonight. Cops - at least the ones in Fla - enjoy something called "Sovereign Immunity". Looking up that interesting phrase, I learned a really neat latin phrase: "rex non potest peccare" which translates to "The king can do no wrong". Oh really?
This came up when I read the following: (referring to the upcoming open carry statute in Fla) the current proposal states that no one who infringes on the right to openly carry guns — including police officers — would be immune from legal consequences. However, the agreement between the Gaetzes and the police chiefs association specifies that nothing in the bill would be intended to restrict a law enforcement officer’s ability or authority to conduct investigations as otherwise allowed by law.
“Sovereign immunity is a vital tool that allows law enforcement officers to perform their duties without fear of frivolous lawsuits,” Mercer wrote. “Officers will not fear losing sovereign immunity when investigating a person open or concealed carrying.”
I'm not too happy about the federal or state level "sovereign immunity" the idea that it applies to minions of the government pisses me off something fierce. So a cop "can do no wrong"? How's THAT for a power which could corrupt? And here - silly me - I thought We the People were the "sovereigns" and government officials were the servants.
But the same nonsense happened last spring here in Texas. Three different times essentially the same amendment was offered for the open carry bill. It would have specifically prohibited cops from doing a Terry Stop solely because somebody was openly carrying. It was DEMOCRATS (of all people) who offered the amendments. Seems they were concerned that without SOME sort of protection, minorities would be hassled merely for being non-white and carrying. The amendment kept getting voted down for the reason that SCOTUS has already ruled that merely engaging in an activity which requires a license does not constitute reasonable suspicion needed for a Terry stop.
Sounds like Pinellas county isn't a safe place for gun owners to vacation or come down for the winter, let alone reside there. Clearwater, Tarpon, St. Pete beach, my old favorite hang-out Pass-a-grille, all the string of small beach towns could potentially see a reduction in tourist dollars. The whole county relies on the tourist and "snowbird" industry. It would be a shame for the whole county to suffer for the delusions on one misguided sheriff.
I used to live in Clearwater 43 years ago. I went back there for a day, 4 years ago. I couldn't even find my old apartment complex. When I did it was abandoned completely and fenced off. The complex was brand new with me, tenant number 2 in 1972. That town has hit the skids badly. Maybe not so much at the beach I don't know. But the city is in trouble big time. So Im not surprised by the Sheriffs attitude one bit. His hands must be full with Pinellas crime and all sorts of garbage. He is still nuttz though. if that's an accurate or even close quote.
The Sheriff claimed that he was misquoted. Read the following interview from today's Tampa Tribune and you can see that the misquotes were not too far off:
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Return what favor?
Thrown down on the ground? Not recommended!
One to the chest? Two to the pelvis and one to the head works much better.
But seriously, the number of cops who outright murder or attempt to murder nonresisting people and get a 'good shoot' pat on the back makes a cop with his gun drawn on you the most dangerous creature in the nation. The LAPD use of force board even cleared the idiots who shot 100+ rounds at a couple of newspaper delivery ladies during the Dorner manhunt, because there were (probably false) reports of Dorner being seen in the area the previous day, so everybody in the area was a free fire target, even if they were slowly driving away from you with their hazard lights flashing while they delivered newspapers.
Not to defend the indefensible, but his Facebook post claims that he was taken very badly out of context with the quote in the referenced article.
Clearly the Sheriff is exceedingly mentally ill, he should be recalled by the country residents, immediately.
Sign Me, Neal Jensen
Recall Pinellas County is also where Teri Schiavo was murdered by the government a decade ago.
Tampa, St.Pete area! A big blue stain on an other wise good state. Just like the big blue stains on other states. I wonder how long it will be till we start using some stain remover?
All the coverage I've seen says he was misquoted by the newspaper (how surprising).
--> “Picture this. … You take as an example a 60-year-old man who is unassuming, not a threat to anybody, just your average citizen who has a concealed-carry permit and carries that gun absolutely everywhere he goes,” Gualtieri said. “And he walks into his local bank today to make a deposit, and he walks into the middle of an armed robbery. And when he walks in — unassuming, non-threatening — and he’s got his gun and it’s concealed, when he walks into that bank, there’s a good chance that that bank robber is not going to be threatened by him and is not going to shoot him because he happened to walk into the middle of a bank robbery. And you take that same 60-year-old guy, and he walks in there, and he’s got a big old .45 on his hip when he walks through that door, and that bank robber’s in the middle of robbing that bank and he sees that gun, he’s going to take one in the chest … because he’s a threat, he’s a visible threat.”
So, they MSNBC'ed him, and cut out the middle of the quote to make him appear to threaten concealed carriers. Still not pro-open-carry, but the reporter is the one who screwed up.
--> http://www.saintpetersblog.com/archives/247390
I can't understand for the life of me the Sheriff's stance on this issue.
Huh?? If a person carrying concealed enters a bank during a robbery or not, who's going to know he's carrying? And how would that other someone know? If that other someone DOES know, then it ain't Concealed Carry.
W-T-F? Is wrong with this so-called Sheriff? Someone in that area, if you happen to come across this "LEO for Leo's sake", pat and feel around his head. When he asks what you're doing, tell him you're looking for the vacuum release valve for that cranial cavity between his ears.
B Woodman
III-per
Sounds like a scared shitless sheriff's dept.
Sounds like the Wild West heat is getting to
the ol' Sheriff....
Can we just go back to a quick draw showdown
at high noon ?
Nah, I reckon that wouldn't be fair for Lilly liver'd
tin star lawman now would it .......
These guys all, need to be held accountable for there lack of Psychological Stability.
This assclown is not only a danger to his patrol area, but as a LE that can carry nation wide, a Direct Threat to Civilians Nation Wide!
These are the people who would zealously kick in you're door on a confiscation. Sign me .Dead man walking. Behind enemy lines Ct.
I learned something new tonight. Cops - at least the ones in Fla - enjoy something called "Sovereign Immunity". Looking up that interesting phrase, I learned a really neat latin phrase: "rex non potest peccare" which translates to "The king can do no wrong". Oh really?
This came up when I read the following: (referring to the upcoming open carry statute in Fla)
the current proposal states that no one who infringes on the right to openly carry guns — including police officers — would be immune from legal consequences. However, the agreement between the Gaetzes and the police chiefs association specifies that nothing in the bill would be intended to restrict a law enforcement officer’s ability or authority to conduct investigations as otherwise allowed by law.
“Sovereign immunity is a vital tool that allows law enforcement officers to perform their duties without fear of frivolous lawsuits,” Mercer wrote. “Officers will not fear losing sovereign immunity when investigating a person open or concealed carrying.”
I'm not too happy about the federal or state level "sovereign immunity" the idea that it applies to minions of the government pisses me off something fierce. So a cop "can do no wrong"? How's THAT for a power which could corrupt? And here - silly me - I thought We the People were the "sovereigns" and government officials were the servants.
But the same nonsense happened last spring here in Texas. Three different times essentially the same amendment was offered for the open carry bill. It would have specifically prohibited cops from doing a Terry Stop solely because somebody was openly carrying. It was DEMOCRATS (of all people) who offered the amendments. Seems they were concerned that without SOME sort of protection, minorities would be hassled merely for being non-white and carrying. The amendment kept getting voted down for the reason that SCOTUS has already ruled that merely engaging in an activity which requires a license does not constitute reasonable suspicion needed for a Terry stop.
Sounds like Pinellas county isn't a safe place for gun owners to vacation or come down for the winter, let alone reside there. Clearwater, Tarpon, St. Pete beach, my old favorite hang-out Pass-a-grille, all the string of small beach towns could potentially see a reduction in tourist dollars. The whole county relies on the tourist and "snowbird" industry. It would be a shame for the whole county to suffer for the delusions on one misguided sheriff.
I used to live in Clearwater 43 years ago.
I went back there for a day, 4 years ago. I couldn't even find my old apartment complex. When I did it was abandoned completely and fenced off. The complex was brand new with me, tenant number 2 in 1972.
That town has hit the skids badly. Maybe not so much at the beach I don't know. But the city is in trouble big time. So Im not surprised by the Sheriffs attitude one bit. His hands must be full with Pinellas crime and all sorts of garbage. He is still nuttz though. if that's an accurate or even close quote.
The Sheriff claimed that he was misquoted. Read the following interview from today's Tampa Tribune and you can see that the misquotes were not too far off:
http://www.tbo.com/news/crime/pinellas-sheriff-explains-his-take-on-open-carry-laws-20151218/
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