To Dan III and the anonymous posters and emailers who are telling me what a thug Jay Dobyns is.
Of Jay Dobyns and his fight with the ATF, Dan III writes:
Never forget Dobyns was one of the ATF thugs who attacked the Constitution in the course of his ATF "duties". He's just another badged thug, now former, who compromised his principles and his oath to defend the Constitution. May he rot in hell with all the other badged, tyrannical, .gov scum.
Another anonymous commenter writes:
There are no "good guys" in the ATF. All of them are domestic enemies of the Constitution. Internal spats like this may be a source of amusement, but under no circumstances should anyone who has ever arrested someone for a "federal firearms violation" be considered an ally of the freedom movement.
I have had emails in a similar vein, many of them more vehement and obscene than these. To that I would respond with this inconvenient fact: The Fast and Furious scandal would not have been uncovered without the assistance of Jay Dobyns, Vince Cefalu and the agents of CleanUpATF.org. Go that? Would. NOT. Jay Dobyns is hardly a perfect person. Nor is Vince Cefalu. Nor am I. Nor, I daresay, are any of you readers. Philosophically we disagree on many things, Dobyns, Cefalu and I. If you are looking for perfect people to restore liberty in this country you will come up short of the required number.
Another observation: People change and what seems to be right to them, even to their own understanding of how the universe works, can be changed -- in an instant or over time -- in the face of newly-demonstrated realities. I offer myself and my Benedict Arnold-period embrace of communism as a perfect example of that. Yet God chooses many imperfect instruments to carry out His will. The longer I live, the more convinced I am of that. As I said Cefalu and Dobyns would still disagree with me on many things and I with them, but what we discovered in the crucible of working on Fast and Furious and other ATF scandals was that men and women who disagree about many things can still find common cause in certain other, bigger, things. Among these are truth, fairness, and resistance to arbitrary power and the secrecy that it covets.
Try also to remember that if Michael Collins had adopted the attitude that there were "no good guys" in the Royal Irish Constabulary, all of Ireland would still be British.
Very well said. Better not to cast stones when you're less than perfect.
"men and women who disagree about many things can still find common cause in certain other, bigger, things. Among these are truth, fairness, and resistance to arbitrary power and the secrecy that it covets."
This is why I read you.
Very well said sir.
principles, its what we're mad from. that, and how we may reserve the right to get smarter.
another imperfect soul, but smarter for it.
Well Said! We're all works in progress until we're dead.
I think the comments listed are correct. I also think mikes words about them are correct.
Remember this folks -
Without the ATF, we could not so easily demonstrate WHY the ATF itself shouldn't exist in the first place. See, we are now WINNING the gun rights battles BECAUSE of governmental oversteps and overreaches perpetrated BY the ATF.
Infiltration of the enemy is a great way to destroy it from within.
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