JPFO has this about the Pentagon shutting off the tap of once-fired brass to civilian shooters. What's next? Suspension of the Civilian Marksmanship Program? At a time when government is desperate for every dime, there is no other explanation for this move -- you've scared the excrement out of the Obamanoids with your concerted efforts to stockpile ammo. This is proof that they now view YOU as the enemy.
Of course this comes as no surprise.
Write your letters to your Senators and Congressmen as Gary Marbut suggests and put your opposition on the record, but redouble your efforts to acquire ammunition by any means possible.
The long-term solution is to set up our own ammo factories in semi-autonomous regions such as Native American reservations and states that still take the Tenth Amendment seriously, a la John Robb. Actually, can it be long until state economic development authorities start bankrolling start-ups in local ammunition plants? Why don't all you Three Percenters put a bug in their ear about THAT?
Say goodbye to government surplus brass. The Obamanoids have cut off the supply.
March 13th 2009
Government Destroys Once Fired Brass Cases
This a selection of email content - presented ''as is''.
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 2:31 PM
Subject: [Fwd: More ammo problems - Action Needed]
Dear MSSA Friends,
Another serious problem has just been created to add to the critical ammo shortage in the U.S. Read my letter to Senator Max Baucus about this below. An agency of the Department of Defense has just directed that all military fired brass must be destroyed.
I highly recommend that you send emails to U.S. Senators Baucus and Tester, and to Montana's lone Congressman Rehberg, asking them to get immediately onto fixing this.
FYI, Baucus is Chairman of the powerful Senate Finance Committee. He could simply call the Pentagon and tell them that if they don't reverse this DLA directive that the Pentagon will suffer a mysterious budget cut of several billion dollars. Also, Baucus's former Chief of Staff, Jim Messina, is now Deputy Chief of Staff at the White House. If Max called Jim and asked, Jim could fix this problem with a phone call too.
I recommend you communicate with the Baucus, Tester and Rehberg staffers who are tasked to firearms issues. They are:
Baucus - "Heather O'Loughlin" email@example.com
Tester - "Lillstrom, Alpha" Alpha_Lillstrom@tester.senate.gov
Rehberg - "Abra Belke" firstname.lastname@example.org
Tell them we simply don't accept the military destroying perfectly good brass that could be sold into the civilian market for private and commercial reloading.
Greetings from Missoula.
You called me on October 24th, 2008, to ask me to let you know if there is ever anything MSSA needs you to do for us and for Montana gun owners.
Thank you. This is exactly such a case.
In the email below from the Defense Logistics Agency you will see that DLA has effectively ordered the immediate non-sale and destruction of all once-fired military brass.
Max, this is a HUGE problem.
Why is this a problem? The RKBA is only as good as the ammunition supply for the firearms we own. The shelves of the Nation's sporting goods stores are essentially bare of ammunition. The entire ammunition market in the U.S. is highly stressed.
For example, I have six classes scheduled for April to teach Montana citizens gun safety and self defense with firearms. Students must bring 100 rounds of ammunition to these classes. I thought to check this week about availability of ammunition for my students for these April classes - the most common ammunition in .38 special and 9mm. Of four primary sporting goods stores in Missoula, three had NONE - at all! One store has a limited supply that it doesn't expect to last long.
Against this background of ammunition shortage, about the only ammunition that continues to be somewhat available is that from second tier manufacturers who are remanufacturing ammunition from once-fired military cartridge brass. As of yesterday, that supply came to an end because of the DLA administrative decision to destroy ("demil") all fired military brass.
Max, I have a lot more information about the national ammunition shortage, too much to put in one email. It is both a supply and demand problem. Without that lengthy detail, take my word for it that U.S. gun owners are very at-risk for their effective RKBA because of existing ammunition shortages. This administrative decision by DLA places a log on the back of a camel already sagging in the middle.
We sincerely hope that you can do something to turn DLA around, and reauthorize the flow of once-fired, undestroyed military brass from the military to civilians and civilian entities.
One final thought. The military can sell reloadable brass for $2.00 per pound. Brass that has been destroyed for reloading purposes and value sells for about 35 cents per pound. So the DLA is expecting taxpayers to pay DoD extra to make reloadable brass unavailable to civilian gun owners.
Please keep us informed about what can be done and is being done to fix this serious problem.
Gary Marbut, president
Montana Shooting Sports Association
author, Gun Laws of Montana
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 5:34 PM
Subject: Important Notice to Scrap Metal Buyers!
Dear Valued Customer:
Please take a moment to note important changes set forth by the Defense Logistics Agency:
Recently it has been determined that fired munitions of all calibers, shapes and sizes have been designated to be Demil code B. As a result and in conjunction with DLA's current Demil code B policy, this notice will serve as official notification which requires Scrap Venture (SV) to implement mutilation as a condition of sale for all sales of fired munitions effective immediately. This notice also requires SV to immediately cease delivery of any fired munitions that have been recently sold or on active term contracts, unless the material has been mutilated prior to sale or SV personnel can attest to the mutilation after delivery. A certificate of destruction is required in either case.
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I'm game. If you can find a group of chemists, metalurgists, and assembly line specialists, draw up the proper incorporation papers, secure sources for raw materials, and find a factory site, I'll happily put up $5000 to invest in a new ammunition company with production in someplace like Montana or Ohio.
$5000 might not sound like much, but if you multiply that by 10-15,000 core investors, you'll have more than enough to get started.
Show me a real business plan and I'll pony up my share of the start-up capital!
That's ok. Most of us should know by now where the local and state level caches are kept,wherever you each reside.
There WILL be plenty for the taking. Just be ready.
And, if anybody is serious about taking the problem in hand and building their own munitions company, here's one that recently went out of business and still has some equipment for sale:
Seemingly ammo from Russia with Wolf being the source that comes to mind first. That supply seems to have been cut off. We all know that China was cut off from sending us ammo by dirtbag Bush number one. Frankly I see cutting off ammo from being imported as a criminal act.
Greyhawk - I know a good investment when I see one. I'll match your $5,000 and I know two others that would do same.
Screw them. We can make our own brass. It only takes a set of equipment, and knowledge in that particular field in order to start cranking out marksmanship-quality brass.
I know this by heart and can say it with pride because I have been a self-sufficient marksman for a long time. I haven't had the chance to actually manufacture my own brass, but I resize, cut, and clean my own.
Yep, another sign of fear from the globalists. First try to regulate assault weapons so civilians cannot compete with the stormtroopers in terms of firepower. Then, cut off the supply of brass hoping to starve out the self-reliant militiamen living in the remote areas of the country. Only a total idiot won't realize what these fascists are up to.
heh heh... like Chris says... as long as 'they' have ammo, there will be a source for those who dare to use it.
Right now, the word is from DOD to the NRA that they hope to have a WAIVER put into place within a two or three weeks which will CORRECT this situation and return once fired brass, .50 caliber and below to the sales policies previously used!!!
Boy, it's sure too bad that those do nothing Lairds of Fairfax haven't done anything about this...you know, except for getting DoD to put a stop to it. Your brass is coming back, guys; and you have NRA to thank for it.
Sez Caleb: "Right now, the word is from DOD to the NRA that they hope to have a WAIVER put into place within a two or three weeks which will CORRECT this situation and return once fired brass, .50 caliber and below to the sales policies previously used!!!"
I'll believe it when I see it.
Then sez Caleb: "Boy, it's sure too bad that those do nothing Lairds of Fairfax haven't done anything about this...you know, except for getting DoD to put a stop to it. Your brass is coming back, guys; and you have NRA to thank for it."
Again, having observed the NRA's weenie behavior for far too long, I'll believe it when I see it. When you get the letter in your hand, Caleb, send me the link.
In the end I expect the NRA to just find a "compromise" and forget the whole issue. I thought "surrender" was only for the French. I was mistaken.
For stuff like that, and for their role in the 1935 and 1968 sodomizing of our 2nd Amendment rights, I am not a member of NRA anymore. I am now a proud member of JPFO.
Gents (and Ladies),
This is certainly a bow shot. To be sure this is not the first and won't be the last.
With all due respect, Chris H, to heck with finding a local cache when the fit hits the shan. What do we sportsmen and sportswomen do in the meantime? Not everyone will be able to do find a govco sponsored cache nor will everyone want to do that. I'm certainly not waiting until then and taking the chance of not having what I need. Heck it's getting increasingly difficult to just prep for NRA matches on the 'pay as you go' plan. It's at the plum silly stage and will likely get worse.
It's time to simply be entrepreneurial as Greyhawk says and start a company that makes brass. A single transfer press, a set of dies, a few coils of 70/30 Brass and you're off. Having done this kind of work for a living, I'll tell you there are lots of details to consider and of course money. Transfer presses can be found on the used market, but require a keen mechanic to get up and running and keep running. In short, they can be a real pain if you don't know what your doing.
The transfer dies will be the expensive part. For the right team, it ain't that complicated. Don't even need to make complete cartridges, just brass in say, .223or .308 to start... .45 or 9mm would be considerably less complicated.
I'll add that there are other legal and resourceful ways to do this without investing gobs of money. Those that know me are welcome to contact me to discuss... Most tool shops are hurting right now, so it would be a good time to make a deal...
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