Tuesday, August 7, 2012

Mark Potok's "expert" anti-racist hat. "Wade Michael Page may have been one heckuva lot smarter than Potok gave him credit for."

“I think in some ways Christian Identity is designed for pantywaists who are afraid to declare themselves true Nazis,” Vanderboegh jibed. “These are the folks who have to tell their mommas or their wives, “It’s OK that we hate blacks and Jews, dear, because God and Jesus told us it’s OK. Whereas the Nazis don’t worry about that kind of thing. They’re sort of beyond excuses.
“You know, when you’ve got Adolf Hitler as your standard-bearer, what else have you got to be embarrassed about?” Vanderboegh said.
“They each come to their pus-filled beliefs by different roads, but they agree on the destination.” -- “Christian Identity is for pantywaists” by Jeff Stein, Salon, 11 Aug 1999.
Thirteen years ago this month, Buford O. Furrow shot up a building full of innocents -- in his case a Jewish day care. Now we have Wade Michael Page who shot up a building full of innocents -- in his case a Sikh temple.
Wade Michael Page, murdering racial collectivist.
Mark Potok, the Montgomery castrato and SPLC's lying-for-money weasel, said on Piers Morgan's show that Page was a moron who didn't know who he was killing: "My best guess is that he mistook Sikhs for Muslims."
Now I will admit that the neo-Nazis I've run into over the past two decades have not been the brightest bulbs in the illumination array, but I'm not so sure. For a neo-Nazi, the target is not necessarily the people he kills, but the effect it has on achieving the racial collectivist's goals, which has been, at least since the Turner Diaries was published, an American civil war over gun confiscation. It is a civil war in which the neoNazis expect to be the last murderers standing at the end, or so the Turner Diaries promise.
At the time of the day care shooting, J.D. Cash and I were interviewed by Jeff Stein of Salon:
Neo-Nazis are hoping attacks like Buford O. Furrow’s push the nation toward stricter gun control, say conservative students of right-wing hate movements, because they believe such restrictions will touch off anti-government warfare.
“They really believe ‘The Turner Diaries’ is the road map to their success,” says J.D. Cash, an Oklahoma reporter with long associations among right-wing activists who broke stories about Timothy McVeigh’s links to white-supremacist groups like Christian Identity.
“The Turner Diaries,” an apocalyptic novel embraced by McVeigh and other Christian extremists, portrays a “patriot” who foments a right-wing backlash against the government’s effort to crack down on guns by setting off bombs.
Police found Christian Identity literature in the van of Furrow, a 37-year-old Washington state man who turned himself into Las Vegas police after allegedly wounding three children, a teenager and an adult with bursts of automatic weapons fire at the North Valley Jewish Community Center in Granada Hills, Calif., a Los Angeles suburb, Tuesday. Furrow is also suspected of the murder of a postal worker an hour after the community center shooting.
The discovery of Christian Identity material led some commentators to link Furrow to notorious abortion bombing suspect Eric Rudolph, who disappeared into North Carolina’s Smokey Mountains after police connected him to the bombing of an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Ala., in January 1998. The Southern Poverty Law Center in Montgomery, Ala., which tracks hate groups and has a file on Furrow, believes he followed the beliefs of the so-called Phineas Priesthood, a branch of Christian Identity. That loose-knit group also has been linked to 1996 bombings and bank robberies in the Spokane, Wash., area.
But the Christian Identity links to Furrow are less apparent than the movement’s links to Rudolph, right wing experts told Salon News. Furrow is close to the neo-Nazi Aryan Nation in Washington state, while Rudolph had no known neo-Nazi associations.
“We’re talking about two different regions here, two different sets of friends, two different sets of beliefs,” said Mike Vanderboegh, a leader of the Alabama militia movement, in a telephone interview. Vanderboegh has made a hobby out of ridiculing Christian Identity followers and excludes them from his organization. “Rudolph is more Identity, this guy is more Nazi, is my read on it,” he said.
“Rudolph, to the extent that we know about his associates and his friends, hung around with Nord Davis’ Christian Identity folks” in North Carolina, “while this guy was hanging around Bob Mathews’ widow and the Aryan Nations,” Vanderboegh said. Furrow lived with Debbie Mathews, whose husband, Robert J. Mathews, founded the neo-Nazi group the Order, a violent offshoot of the Aryan Nations. . .
Vanderboegh agreed with J.D. Cash that the neo-Nazis hope to incite and gain control of pro-gun sentiment by attacks like the one on the Jewish Community Center.
“It definitely makes sense from their point of view,” Vanderboegh said. Their “long-term goal is to climb up the resistance tree” of anti-gun control forces in “a civil war that will be provoked by the complete confiscation of guns.”
“Trust me, conflict will break out,” Vanderboegh said. “It doesn’t take the neo-Nazis to start it, but they’re more than happy to benefit from it.”
That was thirteen years ago. The point is still valid. To shoot up a building full of innocents in the aftermath of yet another mass shooting in Colorado makes perfect sense from a neo-Nazi "lone wolf's" point of view. Wade Michael Page may have been one heckuva lot smarter than Potok gave him credit for.

13 comments:

Mattexian said...

I'd completely forgotten about the linkage between the CI f**kheads and McVeigh and the Jewish daycare shooter, thanks for the reminder.

Anonymous said...

Hmmm, not so very bright, if it includes getting yourself killed. "Smart" (to me anyway) would be just to shoot n' scoot. Smarter would have been to realize Sikhs, like Sufi, are a pretty darn peaceful lot. Hitting a mosque with the possibility of getting a few bad guys would do the same thing, because shooting anybody innocent is going to have the same effect. Might as well get some that want us dead, while you're in the process. But I'm not a "terrrrrist", so what do I know?

Katechon said...

How long have this Nazi-shithead been in the psy-ops unit by the way,

Is this important to understand that event?

SWIFT said...

Given past statements by Mark Potok, completely unsupported by facts; it wouldn't take much for him to underestimate anyone's intelligence. Don't take my word for it, check out some of his drivel in past interviews with lame stream media, who never check facts. To the left, if Mark Potok said it, it came from on high. A money grubbing waste of sub-human flesh.

Anonymous said...

"My best guess is that he mistook Sikhs for Muslims."

WTF?!

I hate to tell this idjit, but Sikhs ARE Muslims. They come in different sects, just like Christians...

Katechon said...

Sikhs aren't Muslims. No.

They come from Hinduism.

Anonymous said...

Not on topic for the main post, but as for Anon and Katechon's comments, the original Sikh Guru was born Hindu and had a Muslim friend and pretty much made up his own new religion with influences from both, but totally different from both.

To call Sikhs muslim would be like calling Muslim's Christian since Muhammad borrowed so much from the 2nd and 3rd hand Bible stories he had heard.

Back to the topic at hand--LOVE the quote on CI people. Pretty much sums them up. I hadn't encountered them in my 20 years a girl I was dating started dissing a pastor who had adopted a black baby. She wasn't CI per se, but the people she quoted to try to justify her statements were just a step away--wouldn't call blacks mud people but were VERY firm about not mixing races.

If there is one good thing about the Nazi types, it's that they're honest reprobates. CI types are destined for a special level of Hell for twisting Scripture to baptize their heinous beliefs.

Anonymous said...

Sikhs are Hindu. When the Muslims were invading the Northern provinces of India, the Sikhs formed up in defence and became a warrior sect in defense of the Hindus. Not so much warriors anymore, but there are traditions and legacies from that period. One of the reasons Sikhs are often tall and burly is because the group started as a bunch of self-selected bad-@$$'s, where big is good. As for traditions, all good Sikhs always carry a knife concealed on their person. These days, it is often a tiny ceremonial knife, but it is there along with other bits and pieces of the tradition, such as never cutting their hair. The non-cutting of hair leads to the turban, which is simply to wrap up and control the hair. (The color of the turban is meaningless, BTW, except as a fashion statement.)

Anyway... the Sikh have a lot in common with our millitia way of thinking, it seems to me.

anhourofwolves said...

Mike, I am a sometime commenter to David's WOG site. I am proud American by choice and a proud SIkh by the grace of god.
If you or any commenter on this site are curious about any aspects of Sikhism , please let me know on this blog and we can figure out a way to correspond
cheer

Dedicated_Dad said...

Sikhs are **NOT** HINDU!

They're not Muslim either.

They're also not Christian - although their theology is probably closer to Christian than anything else...

They NEVER cut their hair, and do not believe in removing hair from any part of their bodies.

They are MONOTHEISTIC - unlike Hindus - and basically have 5 articles of faith that they must always carry:

Unshorn Hair
Turban
Comb
Kirpan (ceremonial "dagger")
Steel bracelet

Anonymous said...

http://exiledonline.com/war-nerd-classic-in-praise-of-sikhs-the-coolest-warrior-tribe-around/

Anonymous said...

Not only was Page smarter than Potak gave him credit for... he knew very well that Sikhs are not Muslim! Think about his actions from that perspective! His possible incitement for a "gun war" even makes more sense.

Brad in Omaha said...

Folks when this country was still a collection of colonies it was mandatory while attending divine services to be armed as this was a time when being attacked while at prayer was not beyond the realm of possibilities.
During the Civil Rights Movement in the 1960's( not to be confused with today's race hustlers) Black church's formed "Deacons for Defense",it saddens me to say this but the very thin veneer of civilization is wearing thru in some places & armed guards of the faithful may once again become the norm in this country not from want but from need.