Tuesday, November 29, 2011

"Facts are stubborn things." Bad moon rising for Holder.


Dave Workman draws our attention to two statements by Senator Grassley:

Knowledge of Connection Between Agent Terry’s Death and Fast and Furious and Connection Between Fast and Furious and Agent Terry’s Death

5 comments:

Anonymous said...

Repost from comment on
Theulstermanreport



Eric Holder and Barack Obama’s “mens rea” on Fast and Furious BY COACH COLLINS, ON NOVEMBER 29TH, 2011 By Doug Book, staff writer

http://www.coachisright.com/eric-holder-and-barack-obama’s-“mens-rea”-on-fast-and-furious/

Excerpt: Mens rea is Latin for “guilty mind.” In legal theory acting to set up a crime before committing it indicates a guilty mind; or guilty intent. In the spring of 2009, just a few months before the Obama Administration instructed the Phoenix ATF office to commence Operation Fast and Furious, Attorney General Eric Holder introduced and secured a curious change to United States gun legislation.

Then, although Barack Obama and Eric Holder had promised liberal supporters they would fight to overturn the Tiahrt Amendment, in the spring of 2009 Holder lobbied Congress for a change to the Amendment,

one which would allow ATF acquired trace data to be provided to “…a foreign law enforcement agency solely in connection with or for use in a criminal investigation or prosecution…”

The Regime was just about to launch the corrupt and murderous Operation Fast and Furious. And it must be remembered that during the year long course of that despicable gunwalking venture, no agency or official of the United States government informed the Mexican government of the scheme’s EXISTENCE, keeping all particulars concerning the deliberate smuggling across the Mexican border of thousands of firearms quite hidden from Mexican officials and law enforcement.

So former Congressman Tiahrt asks the obvious question: “ Why sign into law the Tiahrt Trace Data Amendment with clarification language to share trace data with foreign law enforcement agencies at approximately the same time that “Fast and Furious” program illegally allows firearms to cross the border into a foreign country?”

Certainly this Holder– inspired change to Tiahrt was no coincidence.

So why did Barack Obama and Eric Holder, hardly known for their attention to details of legality, suddenly consider this detail so important?

How was the Regime to benefit from the new language?

What possibilities for deceit and abuse of power did it secure for an Administration bent upon terminating the God given right of the American people to keep and bear arms?

It is often easy to forget that the entirety of the Fast and Furious agenda was NOT played out, the ultimate goal not realized as ATF whistle blowers and citizen journalists forced a premature close to the Operation. What would the giving of trace information to a foreign nation—presumably Mexico–have accomplished and why was it so important to the final outcome of the scheme?

It’s very revealing to note that, even at the zenith of its power, with clear majorities in both the House and Senate, the Administration apparently could not afford to lose a fight for the overthrow of Tiahrt. It had to settle for a change.

It’s quite possible that when we discover the reason for Holder’s change to the Tiahrt Amendment, we’ll finally have the rest of the pieces to the Fast and Furious puzzle.

Mens rea is Latin for “guilty mind”

Anonymous said...

The thing that really pisses me off is that many of these republicans, went along with this man's confirmation, KNOWING what a worthless, Marxists bag of s%it he was.

So we can blame many of them too.

Anonymous said...

seen this yet?

link found at AceofSpadesHQ:

http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/29/holder-lashes-out-at-the-daily-caller-while-refusing-to-address-growing-calls-for-his-resignation/

getting a little testy, no?

Anonymous said...

And where does little Timmy Geitner stand on all this? His department IS in charge of the Bureeau of ATF....

Ashrak said...

Pretty good article Dave wrote therem but I would point out that never was "botched" to those of us who saw right through the attempted assault upon the Constitution, the Second Amendment in particular, and cover up of it all right from the start.

Glad to see Dave finally come around on the "botched" thing, but it is quite a stretch to say it "now" looks like it wasn't "botched".....for it has always actually been exactly the opposite despite all the attempts to assign that label to the most devious and most corrupt Scandal this nation has ever witnessed.

I know this much, this is Issa's last opportunity to bring the real deal goods.....the stalling has got to come to an end and it has to end with this hearing. Mr. Issa, and our Silent Speaker are out of time and out of excuses. Either they hit the nail with the hammer or they admit to the whole country that they are not on the side of justice, but instead on the side of tyranny - willing to avoid plain and simple justice due.

Time to choose, homeboys. So what is it gonna be?