Friday, March 12, 2010

"Health Care" Bill Resistance to be "Slaughtered." My, how appropriate.

Liar, Oath Breaker and "Domestic Enemy" Traitoress Congresswoman Louise Slaughter, standing in front of the flag of the Republic she falsely swore to "preserve, protect and defend against all enemies, foreign and domestic."

Folks,

In line with my post below that they know exactly what they're doing and how it will play in the hinterlands where free people still exist . . .

My thanks to Irregular Nate G. for forwarding this.

Democrats Prepare “Slaughter Solution” to Ram Unpopular Health Care Takeover Through Congress Without a Vote

Posted by Dave Schnittger on March 10th, 2010

The twisted scheme by which Democratic leaders plan to bend the rules to ram President Obama’s massive health care legislation through Congress now has a name: the Slaughter Solution.

The Slaughter Solution is a plan by Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-NY), the Democratic chair of the powerful House Rules Committee and a key ally of Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), to get the health care legislation through the House without an actual vote on the Senate-passed health care bill. You see, Democratic leaders currently lack the votes needed to pass the Senate health care bill through the House. Under Slaughter’s scheme, Democratic leaders will overcome this problem by simply “deeming” the Senate bill passed in the House - without an actual vote by members of the House.

An article in this morning’s edition of National Journal’s CongressDaily breaks the story, starting with the headline: “SLAUGHTER PREPS RULE TO AVOID DIRECT VOTE ON SENATE BILL.” Excerpts:

House Rules Chairwoman Louise Slaughter is prepping to help usher the healthcare overhaul through the House and potentially avoid a direct vote on the Senate overhaul bill, the chairwoman said Tuesday.

Slaughter is weighing preparing a rule that would consider the Senate bill passed once the House approves a corrections bill that would make changes to the Senate version.


Which led me to the original story here.

Slaughter Preps Rule To Avoid Direct Vote On Senate Bill

Wednesday, March 10, 2010

by Anna Edney, with Billy House and Dan Friedman contributing
House Rules Chairwoman Louise Slaughter is prepping to help usher the healthcare overhaul through the House and potentially avoid a direct vote on the Senate overhaul bill, the chairwoman said Tuesday.

Slaughter is weighing preparing a rule that would consider the Senate bill passed once the House approves a corrections bill that would make changes to the Senate version.

Slaughter has not taken the plan to Speaker Pelosi as Democrats await CBO scores on the corrections bill. "Once the CBO gives us the score we'll spring right on it," she said.

As leaders put final touches on a corrections bill and await CBO scores, leaders, key committee chairmen and White House Chief of Staff Emanuel huddled Tuesday evening.

House Energy and Commerce Chairman Henry Waxman said members had a special message for Emanuel.

"He was certainly informed that we don't feel we want any deadline assigned to us," Waxman said.

White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said last week President Obama wanted the overhaul passed by March 18. Gibbs reiterated the deadline Tuesday.

"The information I gave out last week was based on conversations with staff that I've had here in the building, and I've been given nothing that would change that advice that I was given last week," he said at Tuesday's White House briefing.

House and Senate leaders have brushed off the mid-March push but have indicated they would like to pass something by Easter recess closer to the end of March. Senate Budget Chairman Kent Conrad said they expect to get preliminary scores today on the pieces CBO has in hand.

"Are we gonna get some scores from them tomorrow?" Conrad asked. "We anticipate we will. Final scores? No."

House members are concerned the Senate could fail to approve the corrections bill, making them nervous about passing the Senate bill with its much-maligned sweetheart deals for certain states.

"We're well beyond that," Pelosi said Tuesday, though she did not clarify.

While members await a final package and a CBO score, Senate Majority Whip Durbin said Democrats have asked Senate Parliamentarian Alan Frumin for information on how reconciliation can be used "with our goals" and what "the basic rules are."

Durbin said Democrats want to know how long the amendment process can go on.
Republicans want to offer points of order that require 60 votes to overcome under the so-called Byrd rule. Democrats want points of order limited and straight majority votes. It will be up to the parliamentarian to rule what is subject to the Byrd rule and Democrats, Durbin indicated, are looking for guidance on how he views those questions.

"We're talking to him, but in fairness to him ... it is really hard to discuss this in theory. They have to see the bill and take a look at it," Durbin said.

Once a bill is complete and scored, Democrats could then show the parliamentarian the bill in an effort "to try to anticipate problems under the Byrd rule."

As Democrats hash out the final package, federal abortion funding is another hurdle. House Democratic leaders will have to reach an agreement with anti-abortion rights Democrats or find the votes to make up for a loss of a dozen or so who do not believe the Senate bill does enough to maintain current law prohibiting federal funds from being used for abortions except in the case of rape or incest.

Rep. Dale Kildee, D-Mich., who some considered a potential "no" vote based on the Senate abortion language, dispelled the notion Tuesday.

"I'll probably vote for the [Senate] bill," Kildee said. "I think the Senate language maintains the principles of the Hyde amendment."

23 comments:

Wyn Boniface said...

nullify

Taylor H said...

Slaughter, how nice to put a word like that on a bill which is supposed to make us healthier...

Anonymous said...

"By any means necessary".

It's clear that most people don't want this health-care bill, but the elites are ramming it down our throats anyway.

What do these people know that we don't??

This crap has nothing to do with controlling costs. One thing I can think of is that Medicare/Medicaid are due to be completely broke by 2017 (probably sooner), so the govt is just looking for more ways to fund it. That's what I see anyway.

Anonymous said...

Using this logic, I could install myself as speaker of the house-deeming that the people of my district wanted me in office and the members of the HOR (he heh, whore, he heh) approve of me as Speaker.

The principle is, if you want it bad enough, then you don't need to follow any rules.

If the house never votes for the Senate bill, yet treats it as passed, then it's not law and we are all of us absolved (yes, absolved) of any duty to submit to it as if it were law.

Eric
III

Anonymous said...

by the way, Louise Slaughter might be the southbound end northbound "Breasts Not Bombs" bomber.

Ahab said...

Should this rule change be accepted, employed, and the ObummerCare Bill presented to the president for signature, then Martial Law will have been implemented within America. There is no bill, the House has NOT voted on anything, certainly not the healthcare bill passed by the Senate, as required by the Constitution before presentment to the president. To present the Senate healthcare bill to the president without first having had bicameralism plus presentment of a legislative bill constitutes the acceptance of a dictatorship, a complete paving over of the Constitution of the United States, and a TYRANNY of the worst order.

Doing this could start a civil war.

johnnyreb said...

"Rules? We don't need no stinkin' rules!"

triptyx said...

Sic semper tyrannis. (Thus ever to tyrants...)

III

TypicalClinger said...

Do they not understand, that all they do is being recorded? Remembered? They will not be forgiven. They either believe that they will win,or they really are stupid.Maybe both. I see blindfolds and cigarettes in their future.

TypicalClinger said...

On second thought... Screw the blindfold, and I'll keep the cigarettes.

MamaLiberty said...

Nobody, of course, was allowed to even hint that the US government has absolutely no legitimate business even discussing control over any aspect of health care - and never did.

The rest of the discussion is purely academic.

drjim said...

Let's all keep preparing, as Mike cautions us to do.

Anonymous said...

Ahab said...

"...Doing this could start a civil war."

Wrong.

"...Doing this SHOULD start a civil war."

FTFY.

The occupant of the White House is conspiring with criminals in the Senate and House to jam through legislation that constitutes *THE* biggest single expansion of Government in the history of our Republic and a hostile takeover of ~20% of our economy.

Further, they are doing this over the clear will of a majority of We The People.

That in itself is bad enough, but they've resorted to the worst sort of corruption by buying votes with millions of dollars in pork.

All of that is disgusting, but might be acceptable - but now they're even abrogating all rules and precedents governing the Legislature and the plain language of the Constitution itself.

This is TYRANNY, pure and simple.

What's next?

What will stop them from doing the same with any and every one of their whims? After all - if they can do this with health-care then they can do it with ANYTHING. Cap & trade? Surrender of our National Sovereignty to the UN? Gun-bans? Seizure of your savings/retirement to prop up SS?

Where is the line drawn, if this is not the place?

I truly believe it is time for We The People to make it plain that We will NOT STAND FOR THIS.

I've been seriously debating with myself how to go about this, and think that I've got an idea...

What if a few thousand Patriots made cardboard rifles - printed on poster-board in full size, but obviously just paper - along with signs saying something like "next time it's for real"...

Could we get away with that?

Would they listen?

As to the "why are they doing this now" question, there are a number of reasons...

(1) Their Union-masters have serious financial problems - their pension-funds are broke, and they must pass these expenses on to the taxpayer in order to keep the promises made to them in exchange for getting this bunch elected.

(2) Medicare is broke - this will help prop it up and prevent their being forced to acknowledge it was a bad idea from the beginning.

(3) They know once it's through it will NEVER be repealed. They'll lose the mid-terms, but in 2 more years they'll be able to make the Retardlican "party" hold some of the blame for the mess made of the economy - they hope to sweep back in with an even bigger majority and REALLY get busy on their agenda.

(4) They **KNOW** what this will do to the economy, and they NEED it to help further erode the economy. They NEED a collapse to create an emergency so they can enact their real agenda ala "John Galt Fla's" TDTDD.

I'm sure there's more, but you know damn well they've got much, much more up their sleeves...

John of Arc, Joan's husband said...

I hereby deem myself King of the Whole Freakin' World, and I hereby DEMAND that Obongo, his commie cronies and sleaze agents and the alphabet thugocracy agencies all immediately commit seppuku / hara-kiri, in the nearest town square.

I further deem that the income tax is hereby nullified, that the southern US border is sealed and no one may enter without just cause and my permission, and that open carry of sidearms and longarms is REQUIRED of all US citizens over the age of 16 - as is a mandatory training course based on the Appleseed model.

I also deem legislation to be enacted which commences immediate oil drilling in Alaska and off the coasts of the US mainland, Berkely converted to a nuclear waste storage facility and term limits for every office, except my own, established allowing no more than two years for any elected politician.
The nation's defenses will be manned by the coalition of grunts and gunnies who actually do the work; the brass is all fired. ( Once fired brass, heh heh) And the USMC, the SEALS and the Rangers have official permission and encouragement to whip the asses of any leftists, elitists, Hollywood / New York entertainment or media people whom they deem worth of an ass whuppin.
Those same military agencies I deem authorized to shoot dead any terrorist, anywhere, with no repercussions.
PS - I also deem the TSA eliminated, and airport security will be handled by Airborne men who know a raghead tango from a 90 year old grandma or a ten year old girl in a wheelchair. The latter may be assisted in any way necessary, the former, executed on the spot.
Any objections? I thought not.
Lock and load.

Dr.D said...

"We have swept the last vestiges of the old Republic aside......"
Senator Palpatine grins.

Don't forget guys it's a target rich envelopment.

Dr.D

Anonymous said...

Ahab,
"Could"?

"WOULD"!!

B Woodman
III-per

straightarrow said...

If this is to be the new dynamic, I say Hooray. Uh huh, hooray. We can deem them traitors and hang them. no vote, no trial just deem them to Hell.

Are we still sure about Ft. Sumters?

Anonymous said...

They are not Patriotic, Stupid etc. They know what they are doing and they (whoever they are and I know) want us to Rebel And Fight their agenda. Thesis, Synthesis and Antithesis. Create--Identify--Offer the SOLUTION!

Chris
III

Travis Bickle, Taxi Driver said...

You still sure about that 'no Fort Sumter' thing? Seems like every day that passes, a lot of people give less and less of a damn about public perception or moral high ground, and just want the bastards stopped now.

Anonymous said...

Anyone ever seen Singapore punishment? Ten lashes on the bare butt for a 1st DWI. Lots of shredded flesh and lots of blood. How about 20 lashes in public before a public final solution. I'm not in favor of standing them in front of a wall, much too quick and humane. I wonder if San Fran has had a full body lift to go along with her face? Years ago, for an assassination atempt the conspirators were final punished in the nude,,,,,erk!! My stomach is not strong enough to see San Fran in the buff, in public, face lift or not, retch.

Anonymous said...

They are still wiling to make you a criminal with federal penalties ver thise- abortion doesn't matter. Time to "clean" house ourselves.

Anonymous said...

So our traitors on the hill cram this through, against the will of 81% (!) of the electorate. The taxes go into effect, making the other 19% angry too and further damaging our ailing economy...etc.

a likely result (aside from extreme ugliness)?

States nullify their trash laws and fix healthcare themselves. http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=19094&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=DPD

There's always a silver lining somewhere. It's just hard to see right now. Look to your states, for they are the only political power that can stop it.
azcIII

Anonymous said...

If you believe for one moment that the states can stop this (or anything else they choose to do) without violence, you're delusional.

I no longer believe ANYTHING can turn this leviathan around without the Tree getting its natural manure.

God help us - and God Save Our Republic!