Sipsey Street Irregulars: If you have a Mossberg and want to know if it is a Cruiser.

Tuesday, March 16, 2010

If you have a Mossberg and want to know if it is a Cruiser.

The Mossberg 500 Cruiser.

Update on the Mossberg Contretemps:

I just got off the cell phone with Joseph Bartozzi, General Counsel of Mossberg. He says flatly that since the Cruiser has been manufactured for twenty-plus years, there is no computer data base that is easily printed out to give a serial number of produced Cruisers.

HOWEVER, he did say that if anyone has a Mossberg 500 and wishes to know whether or not that individual firearm was produced as a Cruiser, simply contact the factory by letter, email or fax and they will gladly give you that information.

For contact information, go here: http://www.mossberg.com/

Mike
III

6 comments:

Anonymous said...: I have a Winchester 1300 Defender that came, in the box, with the pistol grip attached. Thats why I bought that model. Where does that leave me? Is it only that particular model and brand?

GIII; March 16, 2010 at 3:30 PM
Anonymous said...: Can't help but notice that the CUATF post you referenced talks about a "persuader" and YOU talk about a "cruiser."

Does it matter?

One more point - if all this is correct, and PG SGs are essentially "pistols" then you would REALLY land yourself in a world of hurt by installing a stock.

Now I have to ask "what about the kits that come with the PG installed and a stock in the box? I used to have a Mossy (500 IIRC) kit that came with 26" and 18.5" bbls and PG and SS. How in the hell can THAT be legal?

Remember: "Once a pistol always a pistol/once a ... etc.

This is a MESS!; March 16, 2010 at 3:32 PM
drjim said...: Having never fired a pistol-grip 12ga, I just have to ask....
How long does your hand hurt?; March 16, 2010 at 3:46 PM
Spitnyri said...: With our present state of affairs my paranoia kicks in quite easily.. Now watch this turn into a UnLicnesed Handgun issue in those states requiring such.. what a can of worms this could be..; March 16, 2010 at 4:02 PM
Anonymous said...: Here's the b!tch - some models (such as the 50411) come from the factory with a stock AND a pistol grip kit - they're still officially Cruisers...

Is I is or is I ain't a pistol, baby?; March 16, 2010 at 4:46 PM
Syndrome said...: Unless you happen to have the water-proof container marked M500Cruiser!; March 17, 2010 at 10:01 AM

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If you have a Mossberg and want to know if it is a Cruiser.

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