Tuesday, June 16, 2015

An unconfirmed but persistent rumor: the ATF's machine gun registry was hacked about the same time frame and by the same people as the OPM attack.

The news about the OPM hack by the ChiComs just keeps getting worse: "China’s Hack Just Wrecked American Espionage."
In addition, this writer has been trying for the past week to follow up on persistent rumors that the ATF's national machine gun registry, the NFRTR (National Firearm Registration and Transfer Record) was hacked at about the same time and the entire record downloaded by the same people as the OPM attack.
I'm getting as many denials as I am positives from what sources I can get to talk to me about this, and at the moment I rate the story as no better than a "50 percenter." Maybe it is true and maybe it isn't. But if it is true . . .
The Chinese Communists now have a list of the names and addresses of every single owner of a full-auto weapon in the country. A more powerful argument against national registration of firearms of any kind could not be made. Presumably if the ChiComs can carry off such a hack, any reasonably sophisticated criminal gang these days could accomplish the same thing.
One source I talked to joked that he hoped the Chinese understood that the NFRTR was so shot full of errors and so frequently "tweaked" by the ATF contrary to law that they couldn't reliably use it as a template for prosecutions after some future "Red Dawn." But then he admitted that prosecutions probably weren't what they had in mind for such information in the first place, Chinese "justice" being a bit more sudden than that.
Keep your eyes on these pages, dear readers, and I will either confirm or debunk this persistent rumor when I can.

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

if I were a Chinese invader I wouldn't worry about the guy with the full auto machine gun anyway as he's the guy always taking the most amount of fire to get him out of the fight. I'd be far more worried about the marksman 600yards out with the semi-auto who has my forehead in his sights...And yes, that's what gun registries are for no matter who's using them; be it the foreign invader or the foreign invader posing as one of our dear leaders. Only a fool would register

Anonymous said...

I am not so sure it was a ChiCom hack. To quick to accuse and Absolutely NO PROOF.
It wouldn't suprise me if they did.....
(I) just doubt these (claims) when there is No Proof Released and are so quick and absolute in there Proclamation's.
That said......The gathering of those hacked Secrets sure would come in handy "Domesticly" and "Politicly."

What have we learned in these yrs,?
This Administration & others to be fair, and the minions of these Traitorous Pigs will stop AT NOthing to enact there Facist Agenda.

Anonymous said...

"The Chinese Communists now have a list of the names and addresses of every single owner of a full-auto weapon in the country."

I would like to amend this to:

"The Chinese Communists now have a list of the names and addresses of every single owner of a full-auto weapon in the country who was foolish enough to register said weapon."

Chris Bauman

Block Of Instruction said...

Laughing, the amount of stupid so far is priceless.

Unknown said...

I'm not sure why i should worry about this (aside from the general level of incompetence of the federal IT infrastructure.) I have purchased MANY NFA items over the years and don't keep it a secret. The items have virtually no value if stolen and in time of war i could easily convert my ar15's and AK's to full auto with very little work (i already have a bridgeport type mill.) We have more to fear from the bureaucrats and their regulations than we do from the Chinese.

BobF said...

Wonder how the Chinese might actually do us a favor and arrange spontaneous combustion of all FFLs' bound books.

Unknown said...

I'm kind of hoping that they release all of them. Then we can see how totally screwed up the NFA registry is.

Anonymous said...

If certain govt database were hacked, WHY didn't the hackers DO EVERYONE A FAVOR AND DELETE them?..that would have done some REAL GOOD.....Why are they NOT targeting REAL damaging databases the govt has like the IRS/ BATF / FBI and REALLY crippling the most abusive excesses of the FED GOV?

Why does this stink of another exploitation of false flag data collection by NSA and their awesome band of "legal" hackers to justify yet more abuses of liberty and privacy....Oh thats right, because they are done to JUSTIFY FUTHER BIG BROTHER ABUSE AND AUTHORITY.....

Sign me!!! NEAL JENSEN

Yeah I said it all!!!

Anonymous said...

Like the Chinese communists who WANT These databases to start with(so they can eradicate gun owners on their invasion, would actually hack and DAMAGE the ones they could best use to their own gains when they invade to take possession of their "property" mortgaged to them by the FED GOV....The Americans OWN worst enemy is the FED GOV that abuses us.

Sign me, Neal Jensen

Dave said...

I don't see how China would benefit from having a copy of the ATF's database. If this is true, then they were probably downloading everything they could as fast as they could and passing it along to their analysts to sort through later.

Anonymous said...

Probably the easiest way to find out if the hack is real, is if a majority of Americans having one or more NFA stamps suddenly all getting a Nornico catalog in the mail...

CowboyDan said...

I'm with Anonymous 1042. Just because the .gov SAYS it was a Chinese hack doesn't mean it WAS a Chinese hack.

It's much more useful to those closer to home. I think I'd be real careful if I had one of those weapons registered in my name. If registered owners start going down in "accidents" or if they start losing said items in "burglaries," people might be wise to keep them locked & loaded.

When TSHTF, there's not likely to be a lot of notice given.