Sipsey Street Irregulars: "The idea that armed American citizens could stand up to our military is beyond fantasy."

Friday, December 13, 2013

"The idea that armed American citizens could stand up to our military is beyond fantasy."

Bob Owens takes note: "Gun-grabbing Notre Dame Philosopher: successfully resisting tyranny is fantasy."

Owens comments: "There’s this idea among authoritarians that the arms of the citizens, if need be, can be suppressed easily by repressive government. Those who think there are current (or likely future) government actions in this country that would could long survive an armed resistance are living a statist fantasy. The idea that armed American citizens couldn’t stand up to a relative handful of authoritarians is beyond fantasy."

If I felt better and wasn't busier than a cat trying to cover up crap on a tin roof, I might take a moment to counsel the Professor directly myself. Maybe this weekend. Maybe not.

5 comments:

Anonymous said...: We've seen this kind of "analysis" many times in the past. Invariably there is an assumption that the U S military would support the government as a cohesive force. This is not how our ancestors behaved in 1775. Some of His Majesty's subjects took up arms in support of the rebellion, and some against. But perhaps a more relevant event is the way the existing U S forces reacted in 1860. I recall seeing an old photograph of an assembly of U S Army officers prior to the Civil War. In it were the men who would soon become the commanders on both sides of the bloodiest conflict seen in North America to date.

In short, if such an event should come to pass again, and I for one pray that it does not become necessary, the forces opposing the establishment will likely face part of the regular military, and be supported by another part.; December 13, 2013 at 8:03 AM
Anonymous said...: The US military(ALL OF IT) as it stands today, could not fight a single battle V the US ARMY of 1960 and win. The US military has been so downsized and underfunded for the last 25 years that the military power and weapons of the first Gulf War are gone. They have been sold off ,scraped, or placed in depot storage. The US MILITARY is all bluff, lacking the "force projection" to occupy Texas. We the patriots and gun owners out number EVERY solder and cop ON EARTH by millions to one. The day we have the balls to ignore the NOT NOW types and call the feds bluff is the day we take it back.--- You are not helping anymore Mike. Your time in this is over, I know you won't quit-but you should. The goodwill you have built up over a lifetime is being destroyed by your anger at your eminent death and all the drugs you are taking. You have done great things Mike, but its time for you to hang it up.; December 13, 2013 at 9:15 AM
Anonymous said...: I am sure that King George III thought much the same thing. To bad both of he and this idiot were and are wrong. The elected class must soon be taught a lesson. THEY WORK FOR US. THE GOVERNMENT EXISTS BY THE GRACE OF THE PEOPLE. Soon, as more and more people realize that we have a thugocracy running this country that consent will be revoked in a violent manner. Those that seek to oppress and enslave us will soon be taught a very hard but lasting lesson. DON'T FUCK WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. You do so at your peril.; December 13, 2013 at 9:48 AM
Anonymous said...: Every lesson in history tells them: "Don't fuck with the People"

The people endure for ever; are totally unforgiving; remember every userpation and persecution; through many generations.

Without exception the People seek retribution.

III; December 13, 2013 at 5:19 PM
oughtsix said...: Anonymous @ December 13, 2013 at 9:15 AM:

Agree with your comments re: the .mil v. The People. No doubt.

As for your remarks to Mike:

E.S.& F.O.; December 13, 2013 at 8:30 PM

"Progress made under the shadow of the policeman's club is false progress."

I believe that liberty is the only genuinely valuable thing that men have invented, at least in the field of government, in a thousand years. I believe that it is better to be free than to be not free, even when the former is dangerous and the latter safe. I believe that the finest qualities of man can flourish only in free air – that progress made under the shadow of the policeman's club is false progress, and of no permanent value. I believe that any man who takes the liberty of another into his keeping is bound to become a tyrant, and that any man who yields up his liberty, in however slight the measure, is bound to become a slave. -- H.L. Mencken

"The Fate of Unborn Millions. . ."

"The time is now near at hand which must probably determine, whether Americans are to be, Freemen, or Slaves; whether they are to have any property they can call their own; whether their Houses, and Farms, are to be pillaged and destroyed, and they consigned to a State of Wretchedness from which no human efforts will probably deliver them. The fate of unborn Millions will now depend, under God, on the Courage and Conduct of this army-Our cruel and unrelenting Enemy leaves us no choice but a brave resistance, or the most abject submission; that is all we can expect-We have therefore to resolve to conquer or die." -- George Washington to his troops before the Battle of Long Island.

"We will not go gently . . ."

This is no small thing, to restore a republic after it has fallen into corruption. I have studied history for years and I cannot recall it ever happening. It may be that our task is impossible. Yet, if we do not try then how will we know it can't be done? And if we do not try, it most certainly won't be done. The Founders' Republic, and the larger war for western civilization, will be lost.

But I tell you this: We will not go gently into that bloody collectivist good night. Indeed, we will make with our defiance such a sound as ALL history from that day forward will be forced to note, even if they despise us in the writing of it.

And when we are gone, the scattered, free survivors hiding in the ruins of our once-great republic will sing of our deeds in forbidden songs, tending the flickering flame of individual liberty until it bursts forth again, as it must, generations later. We will live forever, like the Spartans at Thermopylae, in sacred memory.

-- Mike Vanderboegh, The Lessons of Mumbai:Death Cults, the "Socialism of Imbeciles" and Refusing to Submit, 1 December 2008

"A common language of resistance . . ."

"Colonial rebellions throughout the modern world have been acts of shared political imagination. Unless unhappy people develop the capacity to trust other unhappy people, protest remains a local affair easily silenced by traditional authority. Usually, however, a moment arrives when large numbers of men and women realize for the first time that they enjoy the support of strangers, ordinary people much like themselves who happen to live in distant places and whom under normal circumstances they would never meet. It is an intoxicating discovery. A common language of resistance suddenly opens to those who are most vulnerable to painful retribution the possibility of creating a new community. As the conviction of solidarity grows, parochial issues and aspirations merge imperceptibly with a compelling national agenda which only a short time before may have been the dream of only a few. For many Americans colonists this moment occurred late in the spring of 1774." -- T.H. Breen, The Marketplace of Revolution: How Consumer Politics Shaped American Independence, Oxford University Press, 2004, p.1.

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