Sipsey Street Irregulars: If gun rights advocates are going to Hell, we'll liberate the place

Friday, June 28, 2013

If gun rights advocates are going to Hell, we'll liberate the place

We're going to Hell? Alright--it's past time for a regime change down there anyway, because we're certainly not going to tolerate a "government . . . er, satanic monopoly on force," no matter how many "gun control" advocates are serving the master.

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Anonymous said...: Careful what you wish for, Ms. Garcia.....you might just get it.; June 28, 2013 at 1:27 PM
tom said...: Assuming she of the NEA Veeping is Judeo-Christian, the "hell" described in Judeo-Christian Terms, AND in the words of Jesus, is a temporary place. Sheol/Hades are a place of reflection and atonement on misdeeds, not eternal torment. A place before final judgment. If you study the various translations and commentaries, some have spoken of a division of Sheol/Hades into a portion for the truly wicked, and a portion for those less so.

In the words of Jesus, he speaks eleven times of Gehenna, which does not translate to hell in any mainstream religious interpretations. Gehenna is potentially a place of eternal torment, as described. Sheol/Hades is not. Only the King James Edition refuses to differentiate between Hades and Gehenna, and the King James was cobbled together at the request of King James and is self contradictory in many places. No offense to people who prefer the KJ to other translations, including the earlier bibles it's based on, but it's historically factual that it contradicts itself and was created for a King, not written by God.

The only primary religious text that only mentions total annihilation of body and soul (as well as eternal torment, at times) is the Koran. It mentions Gehenna 77 times and Hades no times at all.

Assuming a Judeo-Christian narrative, I'm not afraid of "hell/hades/sheol" one bit. It's a place that precedes final judgment, to the best I've been able to perceive original intent. Not a place of eternal torment. That would be Gehenna.

I know, don't discuss religion or politics, as they are divisive...but, only one Christian bible refuses to differentiate between Hades and Gehenna, with Hades being "Hell". If I offended anybody as to my thoughts on biblical iterations, feel free to read all the ones you can get your hands on of all religious traditions, or tell me to "Go to Hell for pointing out faults in the KJ", as that worries me about at much as I have said above. Not at all. Gehenna would be a lesser place to go. Hades is survivable.

God “breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living soul.” (Genesis 2:7) Therefore, depending on interpretation, a soul can not be "destroyed" or annihilated, as that "soul" is part of God and God is eternal, with no beginning or end. Related bits in Ezekiel and elsewhere.

I know "Tomorrow's Sunday, but today is the Sabbath..." :-)

Regards,; June 29, 2013 at 10:48 AM

"Progress made under the shadow of the policeman's club is false progress."

I believe that liberty is the only genuinely valuable thing that men have invented, at least in the field of government, in a thousand years. I believe that it is better to be free than to be not free, even when the former is dangerous and the latter safe. I believe that the finest qualities of man can flourish only in free air – that progress made under the shadow of the policeman's club is false progress, and of no permanent value. I believe that any man who takes the liberty of another into his keeping is bound to become a tyrant, and that any man who yields up his liberty, in however slight the measure, is bound to become a slave. -- H.L. Mencken

"The Fate of Unborn Millions. . ."

"The time is now near at hand which must probably determine, whether Americans are to be, Freemen, or Slaves; whether they are to have any property they can call their own; whether their Houses, and Farms, are to be pillaged and destroyed, and they consigned to a State of Wretchedness from which no human efforts will probably deliver them. The fate of unborn Millions will now depend, under God, on the Courage and Conduct of this army-Our cruel and unrelenting Enemy leaves us no choice but a brave resistance, or the most abject submission; that is all we can expect-We have therefore to resolve to conquer or die." -- George Washington to his troops before the Battle of Long Island.

"We will not go gently . . ."

This is no small thing, to restore a republic after it has fallen into corruption. I have studied history for years and I cannot recall it ever happening. It may be that our task is impossible. Yet, if we do not try then how will we know it can't be done? And if we do not try, it most certainly won't be done. The Founders' Republic, and the larger war for western civilization, will be lost.

But I tell you this: We will not go gently into that bloody collectivist good night. Indeed, we will make with our defiance such a sound as ALL history from that day forward will be forced to note, even if they despise us in the writing of it.

And when we are gone, the scattered, free survivors hiding in the ruins of our once-great republic will sing of our deeds in forbidden songs, tending the flickering flame of individual liberty until it bursts forth again, as it must, generations later. We will live forever, like the Spartans at Thermopylae, in sacred memory.

-- Mike Vanderboegh, The Lessons of Mumbai:Death Cults, the "Socialism of Imbeciles" and Refusing to Submit, 1 December 2008

"A common language of resistance . . ."

"Colonial rebellions throughout the modern world have been acts of shared political imagination. Unless unhappy people develop the capacity to trust other unhappy people, protest remains a local affair easily silenced by traditional authority. Usually, however, a moment arrives when large numbers of men and women realize for the first time that they enjoy the support of strangers, ordinary people much like themselves who happen to live in distant places and whom under normal circumstances they would never meet. It is an intoxicating discovery. A common language of resistance suddenly opens to those who are most vulnerable to painful retribution the possibility of creating a new community. As the conviction of solidarity grows, parochial issues and aspirations merge imperceptibly with a compelling national agenda which only a short time before may have been the dream of only a few. For many Americans colonists this moment occurred late in the spring of 1774." -- T.H. Breen, The Marketplace of Revolution: How Consumer Politics Shaped American Independence, Oxford University Press, 2004, p.1.

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