Hope you rot from the inside out you rat commie bastard. Your cancer is Karma. See you in hell you fat traitor. -- Bill Nye, Kerodin's buddy.
There have been a variety of communications back and forth between concerned parties seeking some sort of accommodation between myself and the convicted extortionist Kerodin (not his real name) who claims to be an authentic Three Percenter and leader of same. In response to one of these pleas, I wrote:
I note that Kerodin has not offered to do so (abide by a truce), and he won't, simply because that has been his mission from the beginning, it is his reason for existence. He is now on record as claiming I am an ATF asset of some sort and I doubt very seriously that he will withdraw it, or cease attacking me. I must say that the longer this goes on, and the more he and buddies like Nye attack me and wish my death, the more he discredits himself and that's just fine with me. His latest proposal to pull something in Birmingham in October is hysterically funny. In any case if he shows up anywhere where there are firearms and so much as touches one, how can he do so without putting everybody else in jeopardy of prosecution of providing a felon access to firearms? You are, I believe, both seeking the impossible and mistaking that the two of us represent different philosophies of the same movement. We are very different, believe me, personally and in our moral foundations. He will not cease fire because he cannot.
Pete at WRSA, having taken Kerodin under his wing from the beginning, responded:
Mike:For the record, do you have any information at all (real, hard stuff - not innuendo or other bullshit) that Kerodin is a government operative? I think I know the answer, but I will show you the courtesy of explaining what you have.
In the meantime, Kerodin responded to someone else in the string about his charge that I am an ATF informer.
Well, Coord (Sorry, I don’t know your real name, only your handle),Have you not read my critiques? They are chock-full of enough circumstantial evidence that if they were crimes against the state a Grand Jury would be convened, and if they happened in George Washington’s encampment, he’d either have Mike horse-whipped or hanged.And you do not need to read my critiques. Read Mike’s own words and overlay a timeline of circumstances: Absolved drafts excoriate ATF. Mike catches a gun charge. Gunwalker breaks (fed to him by an ATF Agent, by Mike’s own admission). Mike starts nuzzling up to ATF active agents and praising them publicly (including the pablum “John Dodson, I salute you, sir!”), Mike skates on a weapons charge (and gets his pistol back, for those of you well-versed enough to know the system), then gets his permit…all the while trying to convince the poor souls who read his blog that the proper response in such circumstances is: “If you try to take our weapons, we’ll kill you”.Is this proof? Nope. Is it more than he has on me? Yup.Of course, this discussion is an exercise in futility. Mike started the snitch thing because arguing logic and reason is not his strong suit. He goes for hyperbole, bluff, tough talk, lies made of whole cloth, and ad hominem.Coord: No offense to you or anyone else on this email list, but this matter is pointless in email. Mike has agreed to a truce several times in the past, many people on this email list have been here before, and he breaks every single one. If he responds at all it will not be with evidence for which CA has asked, it will be a refutation of what I wrote. So be it.I have chosen my path.See you all in Birmingham, if you can make it. Mike, I personally invite you and will offer you the opportunity to run your mouth to my face. Being a geriatric, crippled old bag of useless meat does not mean you get to let people on your blog intimate they will shoot me from 800 yards away, and it certainly will not stop me from holding you accountable for your filthy mouth.Kerodin
I responded to Pete's demand thusly:
Pete,People tried to tell me YOU were an ATF snitch because of your participation in the Appleseed imbroglio.I didn't believe them.People tried to tell me to watch out for you after you vehicle full of arms and ammunition was seized at the Birmingham airport and, after you and your lawyer chatted with BPD and DHS, your property was returned and no charges were filed.I didn't believe them.People who knew "Kerodin" back before it was his new name told me after his first attacks on me that he was a con man, a thug and previously non-political. They told me their best guess was that he was an informer.I believe them.Now Kerodin charges that I, Mike Vanderboegh, with a twenty year record, with no secrets unconfessed, am an ATF snitch.And you believe him?Really?
Since it is now history, and forms the crux of Kerodin's allegation, let us talk about the pistol charge. You will note the date of the original incident, 2 September 2010. Although originally told I would receive the pistol back pending outcome of the case, that was denied to me. The outcome of the case I described here, over a year later. Throughout we tried but failed to force the prosecution to give us the name of the road rager whose allegation in front of the conveniently-assembled police cars formed the probable cause of my arrest. I had been told that the ATF had put him up to it, and this was why the County Sheriff, who now understood his department had been used by the gun cops as a tool to take me down through the suborned Deputy Cornelius, was eager for a deal.
Even then, after the case was settled, I ended up having to get the personal attention of the Sheriff in order to recover the weapon, and later, again, to get my pistol permit approved.
Understand, there was never a felony charge on the table. What we were fighting for all along was sunlight regarding how the incident unfolded and then the recovery of son's pistol. For THIS I am supposed to have "gone over" to the ATF?
And then of course there is the timing and what happened in the intervening 13 months -- the Gunwalker Scandal, which I was instrumental in bringing to the fore. Kerodin's slander fails simple logic, but that has never stopped him in the past.
There are those who say that that the public disagreement between Kerodin and myself is a "circular firing squad." That presumes that we are on the same side. We are not and haven't been since the beginning. Kerodin's assigned task -- self-assigned or by others -- is to attack and discredit me and my interpretation of the Three Percent. It has been since the very beginning. Yet no one asks "why"?
There are those who characterize this as a matter of "ego." It is not. Kerodin's kind came and went during the 90s and always left, at best, disillusioned followers in their wake. That is a matter of principle, not personality, although it does take a certain con-man personality like Kerodin's to pull it off, even for a little while.
There are those who say that this should be kept in the dark for fear of "helping the enemy." I disagree. The only way people can understand the issues at stake is to have these set-tos in public.
If Kerodin believes that I am slandering him, he is welcome to sue me. I will find discovery far more amusing than him.