Monday, March 29, 2010

"Obama's Private Army!" "Fed Admits Reichstag Fire Plot!" Debunking the bunk. Mark Koernke isn't the only guy passing disinformation.


Two pieces of disinformation that have been filling up my In Box in multiples are the claim that "Obama got his private army slipped into the health care bill" and "We're being set up for a Reichstag Fire. An anonymous Fed says so!"

Lynn Stuter deals with the first claim:

From: "lmstuter"
Subject: Hoaxes, more hoaxes, hoaxes galore
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 09:46:40 -0700

Dear All,

Hoax e-mails are flying, fast and furious. They are getting very annoying.

The first one claims that the health care bill passed, signed into law by the resident in the Oval Office on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 is HR 3200. "You've got to check this out" with a link to a YouTube video expounding on the horrors of HR 3200.

This is not true. The bill signed into law on Tuesday, March 23, 2010, is HR 3590.

HR 3200 was introduced in July 2009; the last action was in October 2009; it has not moved since. This does not mean we should ignore it; but please, do not mistake it for the actual bill signed into law.

The next hoax, circulating, is that "via section 430" of HR 3590, Obama got his "own private army."

The actual language in HR 3590 starts at Section 5209 and amends a bill passed in 1993 establishing a commissioned medical corps by striking "not to exceed 2,800". The hoax e-mail leaves out the following language from HR 3590:

Section 202 of the Department of Health and Human Services
Appropriations Act, 1993 (Public Law 102–394) is amended by
striking ‘‘not to exceed 2,800’’."

In other words, the commissioned medical corps was established by Public Law 102-394 passed in 1993, amended by striking "not to exceed 2,800" in HR 3590.

The bill people need to be concerned about, regarding "Obama's private army" is HR 1388 (P.L. 111-13) signed into law on April 21, 2009.

Folks, I know there are a lot of scared people out there; I understand.

But there are ways to check this stuff out. Let me go through it one more time.

All federal legislation introduced can be found on the Congressional Legislation website at This is their official site. All amendments and actions on a bill are listed on this website under the bill number.

If you go the that website, in the search field, input "H.R. 3590", above the search field click on the button for "bill number", then hit "go", the bill will come up. . .

From this page you can obtain a searchable .pdf of the bill under "Text of Legislation" or simply by clicking .pdf behind GPO (Government Printing Office) directly above it.

Please, in the interests of not spreading disinformation or misinformation, check these things out before hitting the "forward" button.

They are a colossal waste of time and only serve to muddy the waters with disinformation and misinformation. They make the people in the conservative cause look like a bunch of neophytes who will believe anything that shows up in their inbox.

Lynn M Stuter

And then there is the "Reichstag" report.

Unfortunately Douglas J. Hagmann has a reputation for being less than honest, both about his own work and the facts. See Debbie Schlussel here.

Money quote from one of her readers:

Your research and analysis on Islamic Fundamentalist Terror is well done. However, I believe another “investigator” located in Pennsylvania is attempting to capitalize financially on “intelligence investigations” throughout the electronic world by using open source information gathering techniques. These techniques include, but are not limited to, subscribing to news alerts from sources abroad, surfing weblogs, and watching broadcasts. Unfortunately, Mr. Douglas J. Hagmann, Director, Northeast Intelligence Network, and his site is using these techniques to misrepresent his personal analysis, and those of his supposed “investigators.” I also believe he is attempting to latch on to those already climbing the ladder of success independent of others.

Recently, he posted an “investigation” which he cited you as a source. I understand the professional courtesy extended by citing your information is prudent. However, Douglas J. Hagmann, and a few of his “investigators” mimic at times, usually more often than not, the practices of [Jerome] Corsi [DS: who similarly plagiarized a column I wrote]…plagiarism.

This is definitely not the first time Douglas J. Hagmann of the Northeast Intelligence Network has published plagiarized information, nor do I suspect the last. He does not appear to be a credible person, nor would I want him citing any of my work as a source period. Prior to September 2001, Mr. Hagmann was using his investigative prowess to look for “Bigfoot” and “UFO’s” in, and around Northeast Ohio and Northwest Pennsylvania. Ashtabula, Ohio to be specific. Mysteriously, the links to the story in the “Star-Beacon” in Ohio have been removed and or deleted. Mr. Hagmann was cited as a private investigator who reviewed the video tape of the incident, and then affirmed it was real and credible.

Referencing the above stories [DS: see below about the stories] regarding terrorism, it has now been reported to me that WorldNetDaily [DS: Whatta coincidence! WND is the site that ran Jerome Corsi's plagiarism of my work, and refused to do a thing about it] has now picked up the story of Mr. Hagmann. I believe they will be next on my list today for e-mail. I believe Douglas J. Hagmann, of the Northeast Intelligence Network, at, is a complete and utter fraud period.

'Nuff said?



GunRights4US said...

I must admit: I succumbed to the O's Private Army hoax. In my defense, I'm ready to believe just about ANY heinous act committed by this administration! But I am resolved to be more discerning in the future.

angry settler said...

Follow up on the militia case :

"Detroit -- Nine members of a Lenawee County-based militia group were planning to "levy war" against the United States and "oppose by force" the nation's government, according to an indictment unsealed this morning in U.S. District Court in Detroit.

Anonymous said...

Humor me, a brief prophesy of the future based on the current course:

After Sarge C and his buddies break their oaths and our heads. There will be public outcry for hearings and investigations. The deemocrats will be only too happy to oblige. But what we think are hearings and investigations will in fact be a purge. This is hoe commies "reorganize" their military. (See USSR, 1937-38) Leaders will keep their careers and perhaps their very heads only by loudly singing the praises of the dear leader, castrating their honor in the process.

Purge complete, the leaders of the military-now dependent on the dear leader for their very lives-must from then on obey the order, not honor the oath.

I give you Obama's army.

angry settler said...

Obama supporter and donor threatens to kill Eric Cantor (R)... crickets from the MSM...

Colonel Kurtz said...

I heard that McCain was brainwashed by the Viet Cong. He's really going to take the USA down the road to communism once he gets power. He tried but lost. Now he think he can get Palin to do it for him. He'll just pull her strings once she becomes president. What do you think?

Anonymous said...

People need to be more careful about what they believe. It doesn't take much effort to do research these days.

For instance, I find it strange that so soon after the SPLC released it's militia report that the FBI/ATF raids a militia in Michigan. Why are the warrants sealed? Why could a group so intent on killing LEOs be taken without a single shot being fired or bomb going off?

Why did the media leave out so much information about the man arrested for threatening Eric Cantor? Do you think they would have done the same if it was a militia member or a conservative threating a Liberal? Why is it that the only violence is against conservatives but the liberals are always claiming they are threatened?

Zeke said...

RE: Obama's Private Army. The bill that was passed DOES contain a lot of text concerning "the Corp". Here is the actual text, which begins on page 1253 of the bill:

‘‘Subpart XII—Public Health Workforce
9 ‘‘(a) ESTABLISHMENT.—There is established, within
10 the Service, the Public Health Workforce Corps (in this
11 subpart referred to as the ‘Corps’), for the purpose of en12
suring an adequate supply of public health professionals
13 throughout the Nation. The Corps shall consist of—
14 ‘‘(1) such officers of the Regular and Reserve
15 Corps of the Service as the Secretary may designate;
16 ‘‘(2) such civilian employees of the United
17 States as the Secretary may appoint; and
18 ‘‘(3) such other individuals who are not employ19
ees of the United States.
20 ‘‘(b) ADMINISTRATION.—Except as provided in sub21
section (c), the Secretary shall carry out this subpart act22
ing through the Administrator of the Health Resources
23 and Services Administration.
24 ‘‘(c) PLACEMENT AND ASSIGNMENT.—The Secretary,
25 acting through the Director of the Centers for Disease
VerDate Nov 24 2008 12:56 Oct 30, 2009 Jkt 089200 PO 00000 Frm 01253 Fmt 6652 Sfmt 6201 E:\BILLS\H3962.IH H3962 rmajette on DSK29S0YB1PROD with BILLS
•HR 3962 IH
1 Control and Prevention, shall develop a methodology for
2 placing and assigning Corps participants as public health
3 professionals. Such methodology may allow for placing and
4 assigning such participants in State, local, and tribal
5 health departments and Federally qualified health centers
6 (as defined in section 1861(aa)(4) of the Social Security
7 Act).
9 provisions of subpart II shall, except as inconsistent with
10 this subpart, apply to the Public Health Workforce Corps
11 in the same manner and to the same extent as such provi12
sions apply to the National Health Service Corps estab13
lished under section 331.

III more than them said...

"I heard that McCain was brainwashed by the Viet Cong. He's really going to take the USA down the road to communism once he gets power. He tried but lost. Now he think he can get Palin to do it for him. He'll just pull her strings once she becomes president. What do you think?"

I don't think so.

dennis308 said...

the Feds have orderd rem.870shotgunsfor the dept.of Education acording to newsmax guess there gona shoot mis-behavin kids.

Matt said...

Will somebody please explain what p496 of the bill means? It's regarding a "Ready Reserve Corps". Too long to post the entire text.

Section 203 of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S.C. 204)
is amended to read as follows:

will said...

@Zeke / @Matt: (a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center) has a good overview of what that section of the law means, here:

Short Answer: This section of the bill slightly reorganizes the US Public Health Service Commissioned Corps, one of the 7 Uniformed Services of the United States - The other six are the five Armed Forces (Army, Navy, etc.) and the NOAA Corps.

PHSCC has been around since the late 1700's, when it was started as the Marine Hospital Service. Led by the Surgeon General - technically a Vice Admiral, which is why they wear a Uniform - the PHSCC and it's ~6,000 officers staff various agencies in the Public Health Service, including the CDC, NIH, and Indian Health Service. Unlike regular civil service workers, though, PHSCC Officers can be 'deployed' to disaster areas or other situations (humanitarian missions, short-staffed hospitals, etc.) to provide medical care. All this bill does is establish a voluntary reserve for the service, kinda like the Army or Navy Reserve. If a major disaster were to occur, and the 6,000 officers currently commissioned weren't enough, reservists could be called up to fill the gaps.

More on the PHSCC at

Jeremy Benthem said...

You can also get more information about the Ready Reserve Corps here:

The USPHS is a part of MOAA.