Friday, January 2, 2009

"Vanderdough the race baiting whigger.": An intellectual discussion of race over at KABA

My reply to the Reverend of Detroit's First Church of Gungrabbing (see below), has elicited the usual well-reasoned responses over at Keep and Bear Arms.

An example,

Comment by: Ø (1/1/2009)
More bilge from Vanderdough the race baiting whigger.


And another:

Comment by: mfs@alltel.net (1/2/2009)
What the h*** does this rant have to do with the NON-WHITE elected regime's plan to disarm WHITE VICTIMS OF CRIME?

The first anti-gun laws in America were enacted by the criminal Radical Republican regimes imposed at bayonet point in the South during Reconstruction...forbade former Confederates from possessing arms. Southerners were forced to take extreme measures to protect their families from criminals encouraged by the local "Loyal Leagues."

As for those who hate "haters," the SPLC wants you!



Now I shouldn't waste time responding to such elegant displays of intellect and logic, but there are many, many more folks who use KABA as their go-to summary of firearms rights news. They far outnumber the racists and antisemites who so prolifically post there. It is to them, rather than the dim-witted racial and religious tribalists, that I direct my responses. To wit,

Comment by: GeorgeMason1776@aol.com (1/2/2009)
"What the h*** does this rant have to do with the NON-WHITE elected regime's plan to disarm WHITE VICTIMS OF CRIME?"

To characterize the Obama administration as a "non-white regime" is a demonstrable falsehood. The problems with the degradation of liberty and law in this country are first and foremost those of a colorless collectivism which uses the races as pawns against each other. Portraying yourself as a "victim of crime" may make you feel sorry for yourself but is unlikely to sway others. I am not a victim, I am a citizen. An armed citizen. I have the means of both my personal defense and my liberty in my hands. I also have the head to know the difference between a pawn and an enemy.

Those who don't are themselves pawns.

"The first anti-gun laws in America were enacted by the criminal Radical Republican regimes imposed at bayonet point in the South during Reconstruction."

Again, a demonstrable falsehood. The first gun laws in this country were aimed at slaves and free blacks. This is incontrovertible. See Clayton Cramer's The Racist Roots of Gun Control, et al.

You remind me of the poor white sharecroppers (from whom on my mother's side I am descended) who allowed themselves to be manipulated by the former plantation owners into not only competing against their own self-interest with black sharecroppers, thus driving down the wages of all, but to be used as a blunt instrument against poor blacks when the landowner wanted to make a point.

One of the early memories I have of my Reynolds kin was somebody saying, "Well, we may be poor, but at least we ain't black." As if that meant anything. Did it put more food in their mouths? Help send their kids to college?

It was such a tried and true tactic that northern industrial owners used it for hundreds of years. Your Germans on strike? Bring in some Irishmen as strikebreakers. The Irish then go on strike? Bring in some Italians and Slavs. Got trouble building a railroad because the Irish want too much money? Bring in Chinese.

And all the time, exploit these divisions against them for your benefit. Only a moron, knowing these facts, would continue to allow himself to be manipulated.

Racists of all colors have always been tools in somebody else's hands, more often in those of a bloody collectivist than an unscrupulous capitalist. You remind me of Blazing Saddles, "Mongo just pawn in game of life."

At least Mongo had the sense to know he was being used. Racial tribalism -- black or white -- is still collectivism.

Ask yourself, "who do I serve?" If you don't serve a Higher Power -- Who is certainly more interested in the content of our character than the color of our skin -- at least have the sense to serve your own selfish interests.

If the right to KABA really interests you, you won't blow off any potential allies in that fight. Unless of course you want us all to lose. Again, who do you serve?

7 comments:

Weaver said...

The posts on KABA should make it obvious to anyone that every pro gun web site/blog/etc has been infiltrated by gun haters. Even in local state gun related sites have since the rise of the Obamites shown a large increase in Trols. The anti gunners have declared war on our rights and are using every tactic they can think of. We must therefore counter each attack with logic and truth and expose these people for what they are.
Weaver

Anonymous said...

In Chinese, we have a saying: Once the opponent of any debate starts to spew insults and nonsensical, juvenile retorts, then the intellectual shall have no reason to further continue the debate, and encourage his immaturity.

This KABA clown has resorted to meaningless insults, making fun of your name, etc... Therefore, as Confucius would say, you as the intellectual, shouldn't waste any more time fueling his ego farts.

chris horton said...

All good points,gents.

Anyone who has been following and reading Vanderboegh's stuff KNOWS where he stands.

Sticks and Stones,man...

CIII

Anonymous said...

I don't usually read the comments. What a sewer! One has to respond, but please remember what Mr. Clemens said about wrestling with pigs..

Anonymous said...

Well said!

tom said...

Better to do 25 and 25 and load some ammo than wrestle with a pig.

Some gun bloggers may miss me, others don't, but I remembered that my job wasn't to teach the unteachable and fudds of the world.

I'm out of those fights.

Happy New Year fake gun blogging chicks and their acolytes. Some of us caught on that you were defeatists and AWs.

Same with the pretend and true meth-head scumbags and neo-nazis.

Anybody that tries to instigate civil war against his fellow citizens should be lined up to the walls and summarily shot.

No Fort Sumter here.
No begging governor zero for natural rights either.

Bye bye, dumb bloggers. You cut your own throats and we, with full medical kit, will watch you bleed to death when they take your "sporting arms" with absolutely no kinship or remorse on your deaths and injury, physical or financial. I watched it happen first hand in RSA and I won't countenance people like you letting it happen here.

I'd have more feeling for clubbing a catfish before the knives come out to gut it and make a meal than I have for traitorous people to the human race.

Anonymous said...

Well said, Tom. I am grateful however for having posted the details of the cotretemps, because otherwise we wouldn't have made crystal clear the point about the Constitution extending to everyone regardless.