Sipsey Street Irregulars: CBS News and Pravda on the Potomac parrot the party line on citizen disarmament.

Friday, January 1, 2016

CBS News and Pravda on the Potomac parrot the party line on citizen disarmament.

A good friend in the firearm business sent me these links with the header, "The level of propaganda is telling." CBS News details: "Executive actions on gun control."

His critique: "First this one (at CBS News). . . It states 'Sales made out of a person's private collection, many of which are done online, are not subject to background checks'".

"Not entirely true and quite misleading. Any transfer across state lines requires the seller to send to an FFL in the buyer's state. As an FFL I routinely have firearms sent for a private sale. . . And yes, a NICS background check or a qualifying firearms permit negating that, an ATF form 4473 is completed and filed regardless."

"The article goes on to suggest the president will quantify just how many firearms sales per year will mandate a Federal Firearms License if exceeded. . . (There are) unintended consequences of such a threshold imposed. Moreover it then states the obvious. . .Duh . . . If someone is required to apply for and receives a Federal Firearms License, any guns sold will require a background check (and a completed ATF form 4473)."

He continues: "Then we have this from the Washington Post (do they even have fact checkers or editors there?)

"The president will expand new background-check requirements for buyers who purchase weapons from high-volume gun dealers."

"I guess the Washington Post nor the Office of President is aware that ANY gun dealer is required to not only do a background check (NICS) but also complete an ATF form 4473? Volume of sales is no matter. I make less than 50 firearms per year, yet I am required to have a Federal Firearms License."

"This statement is flat out false and I challenge them to prove it:"

"Everytown spokeswoman Erika Soto Lamb, whose group was founded with Bloomberg’s support, said the current interpretation of what it means to be “engaged in the business” of selling firearms is “a hazy definition that allows high-volume sellers to transfer thousands of guns without background checks, no questions asked.”

"I know better. Here in the (redacted) area a man attempted that. Was approached by ATF and advised to get a Federal Firearms License. He didn't and was promptly prosecuted for dealing without a license. I know others that were approached by ATF and were told 'get an FFL!' One currently still an FFL here. . ."

"Here is another 'where the hell is their fact checker or the editor?' moment."

"The proposals the administration has been weighing include requiring federally-licensed gun dealers to report any lost and stolen guns to the National Crime Information Center."

"ALL FFL's are required to report any loss or theft of a firearm. Please see the ATF website or for crying out loud use Google if you can't be bothered with that."

My conclusion? Of course the "truth" to collectivists is whatever advance the party line. Facts are immaterial.

6 comments:

Anonymous said...: Why on earth would you want to confuse a collectivist with facts? You should know better than that...; January 1, 2016 at 11:55 AM
skybill said...: Hi Mike,
'And, as you say above,"Collectivists make up their own rules as needed!!" They also make up their own narratives to suit!!! eg. the sale from a private collection "on Line" sans "Background check!! As mentioned, the piece has to go to a FFL and he has to do a 4473. Please don't confuse them with facts or truth,,,,their feeble mind is made up!!!!
Got Gunz.....OUTLAW!!!!,
III%,
skybill-out; January 1, 2016 at 1:07 PM
Anonymous said...: I will NOT comply. The president cannot make law. Therefore, it is unconstitutional on its face.; January 1, 2016 at 1:09 PM
Steve Miller said...: I'm sorry I am so tired of these circular arguments - "we propose these new intolerable acts because there exist no such acts" stupid response is "wait we ARE complying with existing intolerable acts which we assure you, DO exist". Better response is "we don't comply with existing intolerable acts and we certainly won't comply with any "new" ones". Or as Codrea says "no. Your move."; January 1, 2016 at 11:20 PM
Woodcanoe said...: It is straight out of the Saul Alinsky playbook, "Rules for Radicals"!

Tell a lie today, tell a bigger one tomorrow and eventually people will believe it. Has worked for ALL despots in history!

This works SO well that the "liars" eventually even believe the lie themselves!

We can't compromise with them so we are ultimately going to have to fight them. I guess it is just a question of "when does this get so outrageous that we can't stand it anymore"?

WC; January 2, 2016 at 7:42 AM
Anonymous said...: Steve, that drive me nuts too.
To me, the worst is when supposedly 'pro gun rights' people argue FOR carry permits.
Each one of them conned into doing so, laughed at by all for doing so, not knowing they are conned or that everyone watching sees they are conned.

It is the same with the con of "defending" against possible semi auto bans, all while select fires, which technically ARE semi autos when switched to that position, are ALREADY banned. Why take the bait, why let THEM set the parameters of the debate by framing it around semi autos? Why not put the heat on THEM making the debate about select fires?

It really is maddening.; January 2, 2016 at 2:08 PM

"Progress made under the shadow of the policeman's club is false progress."

I believe that liberty is the only genuinely valuable thing that men have invented, at least in the field of government, in a thousand years. I believe that it is better to be free than to be not free, even when the former is dangerous and the latter safe. I believe that the finest qualities of man can flourish only in free air – that progress made under the shadow of the policeman's club is false progress, and of no permanent value. I believe that any man who takes the liberty of another into his keeping is bound to become a tyrant, and that any man who yields up his liberty, in however slight the measure, is bound to become a slave. -- H.L. Mencken

"The Fate of Unborn Millions. . ."

"The time is now near at hand which must probably determine, whether Americans are to be, Freemen, or Slaves; whether they are to have any property they can call their own; whether their Houses, and Farms, are to be pillaged and destroyed, and they consigned to a State of Wretchedness from which no human efforts will probably deliver them. The fate of unborn Millions will now depend, under God, on the Courage and Conduct of this army-Our cruel and unrelenting Enemy leaves us no choice but a brave resistance, or the most abject submission; that is all we can expect-We have therefore to resolve to conquer or die." -- George Washington to his troops before the Battle of Long Island.

"We will not go gently . . ."

This is no small thing, to restore a republic after it has fallen into corruption. I have studied history for years and I cannot recall it ever happening. It may be that our task is impossible. Yet, if we do not try then how will we know it can't be done? And if we do not try, it most certainly won't be done. The Founders' Republic, and the larger war for western civilization, will be lost.

But I tell you this: We will not go gently into that bloody collectivist good night. Indeed, we will make with our defiance such a sound as ALL history from that day forward will be forced to note, even if they despise us in the writing of it.

And when we are gone, the scattered, free survivors hiding in the ruins of our once-great republic will sing of our deeds in forbidden songs, tending the flickering flame of individual liberty until it bursts forth again, as it must, generations later. We will live forever, like the Spartans at Thermopylae, in sacred memory.

-- Mike Vanderboegh, The Lessons of Mumbai:Death Cults, the "Socialism of Imbeciles" and Refusing to Submit, 1 December 2008

"A common language of resistance . . ."

"Colonial rebellions throughout the modern world have been acts of shared political imagination. Unless unhappy people develop the capacity to trust other unhappy people, protest remains a local affair easily silenced by traditional authority. Usually, however, a moment arrives when large numbers of men and women realize for the first time that they enjoy the support of strangers, ordinary people much like themselves who happen to live in distant places and whom under normal circumstances they would never meet. It is an intoxicating discovery. A common language of resistance suddenly opens to those who are most vulnerable to painful retribution the possibility of creating a new community. As the conviction of solidarity grows, parochial issues and aspirations merge imperceptibly with a compelling national agenda which only a short time before may have been the dream of only a few. For many Americans colonists this moment occurred late in the spring of 1774." -- T.H. Breen, The Marketplace of Revolution: How Consumer Politics Shaped American Independence, Oxford University Press, 2004, p.1.

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Friday, January 1, 2016

CBS News and Pravda on the Potomac parrot the party line on citizen disarmament.

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