Monday, November 16, 2015

Yes, there are Muslims innocent of any crime, and this is what God has to say about that.

Jeremiah 22:1-9 (New King James Version):
Thus says the Lord: “Go down to the house of the king of Judah, and there speak this word, and say, ‘Hear the word of the Lord, O king of Judah, you who sit on the throne of David, you and your servants and your people who enter these gates! Thus says the Lord: “Execute judgment and righteousness, and deliver the plundered out of the hand of the oppressor. Do no wrong and do no violence to the stranger, the fatherless, or the widow, nor shed innocent blood in this place. For if you indeed do this thing, then shall enter the gates of this house, riding on horses and in chariots, accompanied by servants and people, kings who sit on the throne of David. But if you will not hear these words, I swear by Myself,” says the Lord, “that this house shall become a desolation.”’” (Verses 1-5).
For thus says the Lord to the house of the king of Judah: “You are Gilead to Me, The head of Lebanon; Yet I surely will make you a wilderness, Cities which are not inhabited. I will prepare destroyers against you, Everyone with his weapons; They shall cut down your choice cedars And cast them into the fire. (Verses 6 & 7)
And many nations will pass by this city; and everyone will say to his neighbor, ‘Why has the Lord done so to this great city?’ Then they will answer, ‘Because they have forsaken the covenant of the Lord their God, and worshiped other gods and served them.’” (Verses 8 &9)
Or, if you prefer your moral guidance with a little less Old Testament, try this quote from Lord Moran:
“I contend that fortitude in war has its roots in morality; that selection is a search for character and that war itself is but one more test — the supreme and final test if you will — of character. Courage can be judged apart from danger only if the social significance and meaning of courage is known to us; namely that a man of character in peace becomes a man of courage in war. He cannot be selfish in peace and yet be unselfish in war. Character, as Aristotle taught, is a habit, the daily choice of right and wrong; it is a moral quality which grows to maturity in peace and is not suddenly developed on the outbreak of war. For war, in spite of what we have heard to the contrary, has no power to transform, it merely exaggerates the good and evil that are in us, till it is plain for all to read; it cannot change; it exposes.” – Lord Moran, in The Anatomy of Courage (1945)
And if even that doesn't make an impression on you, try this on for size. By targeting innocent Muslims, you are playing right into the hands of civilization's bloody-handed enemies: "The Islamic State’s trap for Europe."
"The Islamic State’s strategy is to polarize Western society — to 'destroy the grayzone,' as it says in its publications. The group hopes frequent, devastating attacks in its name will provoke overreactions by European governments against innocent Muslims, thereby alienating and radicalizing Muslim communities throughout the continent. . . The strategy is explicit. The Islamic State explained after the January attacks on Charlie Hebdo magazine that such attacks 'compel the Crusaders to actively destroy the grayzone themselves. . . . Muslims in the West will quickly find themselves between one of two choices, they either apostatize . . . or they [emigrate] to the Islamic State and thereby escape persecution from the Crusader governments and citizens.' The group calculates that a small number of attackers can profoundly shift the way that European society views its 44 million Muslim members and, as a result, the way European Muslims view themselves. Through this provocation, it seeks to set conditions for an apocalyptic war with the West."


Anonymous said...

Those who conspire to usurp the liberty of another are guilty of a crime.
Those who organize and subscribe to core beliefs that they are directed to conspire to usurp the liberty of another, to subjugate all others by force, to impose submission by force, are guilty of among the highest crimes possible. Indeed, guilty of a high crime against humanity.

Sorry Mike V but leaving out this aspect of Islam itself and Muslims adhering to it and it's directives is falling for exactly what Islam was meant for people to fall for. Islam is what it is - a conspiracy and a plan of implementation bent on imposing submission by force and deception.

There are no innocent Muslims precisely because they subscribe to Islam. It would be like someone saying there are no innocent tyrants. The same truth exists in both.

P.G.T. Beauregard said...

Unfortunately Mike, the Islamic world is employing 4GW while you advocate patience and help from above.

Sadly, you are two steps behind on this one.

Kerry said...

As "our battles are not against flesh and blood, but against principalities and powers...", we are not just at war with a religious/political system. The nihilist, progressive, leftist meta-narrative implicitly denies the Divinity of Christ. To quote the late Richard Neuhaus, their meta-narrative, that which explains everything is that there is no meta-narrative. Christ is the meta-narrative which does. In his own words, "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life". Getting to the question, will a Mizzou lefty give his life for his narrative, as we've seen many on the receiving end of Moo-ham-edian sermons give theirs? Of course not. "Without Me, ye can do nothing". We pray that France returns to the Sacre Coeur; there are historical French flags bearing that emblem. The end tally is the four last things.

Sean said...

So, are we supposed to wait around till one of them murders one of our family, or rapes them, or steals what they own, or destroy our way of life, and THEN we do something? Obongo is importing over a 100,000 of these cretins to the US, soon, and I guess we should just go to the airport and cheer them on, and roll out the welcome mat. It won't mean much to the women and children beaten bloody and raped, or the grandfather blown to bits at the grocery store, but what the heck, we held the moral high ground, eh? That's the ticket, restraint. We sit on our hands and watch it all go to hell, and they act. The Three Percent Suicide Pact. No first use of force. First, we must suffer the slings and arrows of waiting around for us and our loved ones to be butchered and abused, and then, we can write our Congress critters. THAT will get some action. Then, maybe a candle light vigil or something.

Anonymous said...

The idea of taking the Austrian Approach to the problem should be anathema to us all, I agree.
But what do the citizens of these countries do, when they've received this massive influx of refugees and potential terrorists? Closing the borders is a good start, but that still leaves the problem of all the folks who got in. Do they deport them, with all the consequences a mass forced deportation will bring? Do they leave them be and accept this as the new norm?
And what do you do when your enemy has openly stated that if they can't beat you militarily, they'll migrate to your countries, out-breed you until you're a minority in your own country, and institute their laws and culture in place of yours?

It's good to have a moral line in the sand that we will not cross. It separates us from the kind of barbaric enemy who would bomb a crowd of unarmed men, women, and children because of a difference in culture and religion. But after you've established that line, what's the next step?

WarriorClass III said...

Who is the real enemy, the invading hordes coming in the gates, or the ones that opened the gates and invited them in? The first rule of war is knowing who is your enemy. Killing innocents only creates more enemies. Kill the enemy and close the gates. Once that is done, deportations would make sense.

richard1j said...

The moslem extremists would have the 44 million moslems returned to the middle east. That would be good. Much easier to target.

Tricky Dicky said...

What does Allah say about that?

Sharia Law For Non-Muslims - Political Islam - by Bill Warner.

Free PDF:

Muslims don't care what god(s) from other religions say. It doesn't apply - and they aren't going to listen.

Anonymous said...

So, if the polarization happens, the Muzzies will return to their dung heaps in the Levant and be part of the "New Caliphate"? I doubt it. The Caliphate has already been established in Eurabia.
The Neocon journalist Mark Steyn was very prescient when he wrote AMERICA ALONE. Europe is toast. The 50-year quest for La Dolce Vita through rampant socialism, abortion, and the importation of these fecund dirtbags has destroyed them culturally, morally, and economically.
While the Muzzies slaughter the clueless Frogs and await for the Mahdi, that European cultural icon Madonna is telling the world that "Love" will defeat terrorism. And the other astute political icon Bono is opining that this is: " attack on the music", whatever that means. The upside to this is more Amerikan sheeple are waking up and getting prepped. It's about time.

Anonymous said...

David was actually very brutal and committed many atrocities to gain the power of his throne. of Israel In fact, he was really in the same category as Mohammad who, of course, committed his atrocities many centuries after David. They both did things like: When they defeated a settlement or city, they both murdered the captured men and sold the women and children into slavery. So, David in his day was no better than Mohammad in his day in many ways. Organized religion is many times an evil thing.

- Old Greybeard

Chiu ChunLing said...

Well content should I be to learn wisdom from the prophets and the faithful stewards of nations which worship the Lord, but I will not hear the babbling of the apostate and pagan as anything but foolishness.

The plan of the Muslim fanatic is idiotic, because the vast majority of Muslims only identify as such to avoid being killed by their extremist neighbors. A general persecution, seriously imposed for a foreseeable future against Muslims, would cause almost all to openly renounce their religion, and a great majority to actually mean it, and be glad of the lighter burden of anti-Islam discrimination compared to the terror and violence under Islamic rule.

This is not to say imposing such a general imposition of totalitarianism wouldn't be fatal to the highest and best aspirations of the West. It is just to say that, if you want to go down the road of anti-Islamic totalitarianism, like Russia and China, there is no need to fear that it might result in Islam somehow winning. Islam isn't going to take over Russia and China...but if there is any other way to avoid being conquered by the "religion of peace" it should be tried first.

It should be remembered that the rise of Islamic radicalism and multicultural theories de-legitimizing the defense of Western Civilization, values, property, and even lives against plunder, rape, and murder by envious failed cultures, is all part of a plot that was originated by the International Communists in the first place. Comintern may be officially dead, but its treachery lives on in the rejection of freedom as a legitimate means of defending against Islam.

Respect the prohibition against any religion being imposed by government on those who do not believe it. Respect the freedom of association and speech, even when it rejects Islam or some other 'oppressed' group. Respect the right to trial by jury of peers.

And above all let the people arm and defend themselves.

Anonymous said...

Muslims INNOCENT??? Seriously??? Jesus said, "I AM the Way, and the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6
Islam denies Christ. Period.

Galaxie_Man said...

Over the weekend, a poor little engineering student from Egypt had his dorm room door name tag defaced with a Sharpie at the University of Connecticut. Police are investigating and the students are calling it a hate crime. You would think this kid was dragged from his room and beaten...or worse. Nope, "attacked" with a marker pen. The perp wrote "Killed Paris" on his door name tag. Big news all weekend and a campus protest today.

NOT ONCE in all the news coverage and interviews did I hear one student, muslim or not, condemn the attacks in Paris, or disassociate themselves from the terrorists. NOT A SINGLE ONE!!

I believe and follow the III% Catechism, where appropriate, but not blindly. There is simply no reasoning with these animals that follow a cult of death. Death for them is not a punishment or deterrent, but it sure helps ensure MY SURVIVAL.

Anonymous said...

Before we go any farther on the road to another Iraq war we need to settle one fundamental question.

Were the recent events in Paris "work place violence" or were they "man-caused disasters"?

Anonymous said...

It is said that Muslims in Muslim nation only understand brute force. Here is why that is true. All they are taught from the time of birth is subjugation. Top down tyranny is all they are exposed to. This is why they "switch sides" so often. They are the ultimate bandwagon fans.
The Koran is what it is and it says what it says.

Christianity once faced issues such as this- the bible saying what it says. A New Testiment was the only way for Christianity to SURVIVE. And even then, the Dead Sea Scrolls open up another front that forces the realization that even Old and New Testiments together still don't "tell the whole story".

The Koran "does" tell the whole story" so it claims and requires absolute adherence without question. Total mindless submission for all eternity. Sometimes people have trouble accepting this harsh truth about Islam and the even harsher truth that it's followers submit willingly to its endlessly evil premises. Only when it is no longer excused, only when it is punished for its actions based on its directives will Islams Age of Enlightenment come to pass.

Steady Steve said...

Deportation of all Muslims from western lands is the only way to ensure our safety. Those that "convert" in order to stay cannot be taken at their word as their evil political system-cum-religion allows them to lie to get their way. Let them slug it out among themselves if they want a peaceful and fruitful existence. My guess is that they won't want to go to the Islamic State. Better yet, send all the progressives with them.

tayronachan said...

"Through this provocation, it seeks to set conditions for an apocalyptic war with the West."

How can they have an "apocalyptic war with the west", if they don't have the tools to do it with? How stupid are these people?

Jim Klein said...

"So, are we supposed to wait around till one of them murders one of our family, or rapes them, or steals what they own, or destroy our way of life, and THEN we do something?"

C'mon, you know better than that. The alternative to, "wait around till one of them murders one of our family, or rapes them, or steals what they own," is not exclusively, "Kill innocent Muslims."

And of course the first use of force can be defensive. The more important question is, "Against whom?" "Why" might be worthwhile too.

Curtis said...

Well Mike, I can see the Global War On Ter-er-er-er-er will be a very very long one.

Hell, most of these yahoo's don't even know the first thing about Syria... the beginnings of the Arab Springs and who funded them, or even the Bush 7 countries in 5 years plan as continued by Obama.

They should go back and read PNAC. Probably not, might bruise a brain cell.

sdharms said...

if "innocent muslims" are not to be killed, then they better wear a hat and start making some noise. It is increasingly heard to pick them out of a crowd when they are all wearing the same tablecloths and black sheets.

Anonymous said...

Funny that, I haven't ever seen an "innocent" muzzie.....

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