Wednesday, July 30, 2014

Obama: Muslims Built 'The Very Fabric of Our Nation'

"Well, gentlemen, since we all are of one sentiment on this, I suggest we begin with, 'Dear Mr. Obama, although we understand that your knowledge of history is quite fragmentary and therefore skewed, we must ask, are you out of your frigging mind?!?'"
"Allahu Akbar"

22 comments:

Anonymous said...

The danger here is the number of "low information" idiots that will believe this tripe!

Anonymous said...

Yes, he is. I'm still trying to wrap my head around this absolutely stupid comment.

Anonymous said...

A LIE!

The religion of blood (Islam) did not build anything. Islam is a criminal cult of murder, rape, war, forced conversions, and slavery. Followers of the one true and living God built this nation. Those who put their faith in Jesus made this nation, it was born out of a desire for freedom. Allah is the moon god, and he is not god.

Darren said...

Recall the libertarian writer Rose Wilder Lane (daughter of Laura Ingalls Wilder of "Little House" fame) who wrote:

"Americans owe directly to the Saracens our southwestern and Californian architecture, our cotton industry, our asphalt paving, and a long list of such things as beds, table and bed linens, small occasional tables, strawberries, ice-cream. Americans speak Arabic when they say, mattress, sofa, cotton, talcum, sugar, coffee, sherbert, naphtha, gypsum, benzine. Our cars run, our streets are paved, our houses are furnished and our bodies clothed with things that the Saracens created. The Christian kingdoms in the Saracens' world lasted less than a century. The heirs of their Crusading founders became indistinguishable from the Moslems in their customs, manners
and dress, as the other Christians were in that civilization.

Then the Moslem emir (who was a Kurd) proposed an alliance with England. He offered his sister in marriage to Richard the Lion-Hearted, who was crusading at the time. But Richard intended to return to England, and sensibly he refused to take home a Moslem Queen.

Since the Christian King would not make peace, the Moslems attacked and took Jerusalem. They did not sack it, and as soon as its defenders surrendered, they released their prisoners. The terms that the victorious emir imposed upon the invaders were, that they must go home. He gave them forty days in which to dispose of their property or pack it before leaving.

During the forty days, the people in Jerusalem bitterly complained to the emir that the departing Christians were seizing everything they could lay hands on. They demanded that the emir stop this plundering. The emir replied, "If I stop them, they will say that I have broken my word. Let us give them an opportunity to praise the goodness of our religion." He let the people in Jerusalem protect their own property as best they could, and the Europeans got away with quite a lot of loot.

But the returning Crusaders brought back to Europe the first idea of a gentleman that Europeans had ever had. Until they invaded the Saracens' civilization, they had never known that a strong man need not be brutal. The Saracens were splendid fighters when they fought, but they were not cruel; they did not torture their prisoners, they did not kill the wounded. In their own country, they did not persecute the Christians. They were brave men, but they were gentle. They were honorable; they told the truth, they kept their word. This ideal of a gentleman especially impressed the English. It is still producing perhaps the finest class of human beings on earth today, the men and women of the British ruling class. It is an ideal that permeates all of American life. This is what surprises so many people in many parts of the world, when they see and meet the common American soldiers and sailors.

-- From "The Discovery of Freedom" by Rose Wilder Lane,1943

See: https://mises.org/books/discovery.pdf

Anonymous said...

The fabric was made from Buquas . Line up ladies for yours.

Pericles said...

Like what? Without the Barbary Pirates, the Marine Corps Hymn just wouldn't be the same. That is a powerful contribution right there.

Sean said...

Damnation be on their pig-god allah, and the swine Obongo who kow-tows to it. Obongo and his idiots don't amount to a pinch of owl dung, when it comes to what makes this country.

Anonymous said...

Obozo might have have a point: if it weren't for the Barbary Pirates raising hell in the Med and kidnapping US citizens, we wouldn't have sent in the Marines; Washington wouldn't have penned the letter saying America was "not a Christian nation"; and Reagan wouldn't have been elected getting the hostages out of Iran. Praise Allah for the consistent 7th-century behavior of his followers...

skybill said...

Hi Mike,
'Just like in Cheech & Chong's comedy skit "The kamakazi pilot" Matsumoto's answer to the group leaders' question, "Yououttayouf%#knmind!!!!!!!!!!!!"
It couldn't be said better!!!
Perhaps a "Him!!!"
"HOORAY FOR BARRY,
HOORAY AT LAST,
HOORAY FOR BARRY,
HE'S A HORSES' ASS,....
HIM, HIM, F*#K HIM,
IFYA'KNOWWHATIMEAN...."
With all due respects to the Scare-us-valley-tallywacker-choir.

God, Guns and Guts Keep America Free,
III%,
skybill-out

Anonymous said...

Yes, but......

There is quite a distance between the Saracens Richard II encountered and their modern day descendants.

Tom said...

Missed any Muslim Minutemen, Colonials, or notable Muslims that took up arms against King George. Perhaps I'm wrong but no Muslim names come to mind at the bottom of the Declaration of Independence, or The Federalist papers. Don't recall the manifest of the Mayflower having any Abdul's. The Spainards were Catholics. Hmmmm. Perhaps BHO is just a delusional ass clown. He mentioned this BS before at his Cairo speech, where the call to prayer from the Mineret was his favorite sound.
Praise The Lord, and Pass The Ammunition comes to mind before all this is over.
(Insert expletive) joke.

Anonymous said...

Reverberations here in Virginia. State Senator calls for the resignation of state GOP treasurer, for posting the obvious:
http://tinyurl.com/n2fstoh

Darren said...

Anonymous said...

"Darren, You mean like the same Saracens who now hang gay people, practice slavery,etc...Can someone please tell me what good has come from that region that could not have been already attributed to the Byzantines?"



You can chose to ignore history and reality if you like. Muslims have made many contributions to mankind. A more interesting question than the rather confused one which you posed is what causes great civilizations to deteriorate and is there a lessen in the fall of past civilizations that would be beneficial to those of us who live in the degenerating Western culture of today?

Other thoughts include:

-- If you truly fear Islam wouldn't it be better to take a realistic look at its history in order to know your enemy better?

-- How will the 3 percent respond if the government attempts more Wacos while using war against a Muslim or perhaps a Russian enemy to stifle and vilify any domestic dissent? Fomenting fear of "the other" is the oldest trick in the book used by tyrants to control the home population.

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That was a pretty windy response which sums up as "thats just like your opinion, man". I am sure your (ahem, their) glamorization of a moon god death cult who has been a thorn in civilizations side since its inception may seem credible to you and yours but me and mine are not buying it. I don't care if it was penned by both Mahatma Ghandi and Mark Twain. We can self deprecate our civilization until every cloud has a silver lining but it does not change how the muzzie world has treated every single other civilization it has come across since Mad Mo took up the sword.

Okay, I will make it easy for you. Name one muzzie country whose major export is not misery and oil, who is not under watch for grevious human rights abuses (Turkey's out so dont try it).

If you think that Muzzies getting antsy is a new phenomenon, you have a considerable amount of reading to do. There are many good documentaries via Youtube on the Dark Ages (spoiler alert: it was not because the Germans could not figure out an aquaduct). Start with Charles the Hammer kicking the muzzies from France and work your way through Charlemagne and up through the fall of the Ottomans in WWI. You'll get there, Sport.

I apologize for any spelling errors or if this posts double. Typing on an ipad is a bit tedious.

Darren said...

Anonymous (if that is your real name), just read "the Discovery of Freedom" and be done with it. It's quite amazing to me that you refuse to not only recognize the actual history of Islam through its various ups and downs but that you are dead set against the history of 20th century conservationism which is not nearly as long ago or far away.

Real conservatives promote peace, dialogue and free trade not collectivist hatred and stupidity. That is one of the main themes of Lane's "The Discovery of Freedom." It's a shame that you refuse to read it in order to understand the roots of conservative thought, if nothing else.

Anonymous said...

(Whispering to Darren) You sit on a throne of lies.

Anonymous said...

Darren,

I am sincerely not sorry for not being as enamored with this single piece of literature as you seem to be. As for being a professed libertarian, I find it a bit alarming that you would be so slavish to one persons opinion so much so as to not see the mountain of evidence in recent memory which clearly contradicts the romanticized idea of the civilized barbarian.

The sooner that you accept the idea that some people just do not like you, the better off you will be. Some people want you thrown in the waste bin of history. It is not the worst thing that could happen. Failing to recognize that threat is.

If you really believe that 9-11, and the London and Madrid bombings were a cry for help, you really need to pick up some different books. It is crap like this is why no one takes the Libertarian Party seriously. Especially in a time when the two party system has failed us so completely and we are in such desperate need of an alternative.

Darren said...

Anonymous said "It is crap like this is why no one takes the Libertarian Party seriously."

There's your problem. You don't take the right of every individual to self determination seriously.

As far as I'm concerned you are free to live life as a slave to propaganda if you so chose (despite the irony) -- just take care to heed the warning of those who cherish their own freedom and that of others: "Don't Tread on Me."

Anonymous said...

Darren,

I will take your silence and ham fisted deflection on each of my questions and points as quiet agreement. No need to look tough to your friends on my account.

Darren said...

Anonymous said...Darren, I will take your silence and ham fisted deflection on each of my questions and points as quiet agreement. No need to look tough to your friends on my account"


I'm not the least bit interested in your questions. The topic at hand is has Islamic culture made any contributions to American culture.

I presented you with a text which shows numerous contributions by Muslims to Western and ultimately American culture. That text was written by and recommended by individuals with the very best conservative reputations.

You have refused to review the information provided to you and instead have gone off on multiple tangents.

Not only are you woefully ignorant of history, but you prefer propaganda foisted upon you by neoconservatives (a philosophy with Trotskyist roots) over well written essays crafted by some of the finest conservative minds.

Don't worry about how tough you think I am. Worry about how tough it is for you to challenge your own incorrect assumptions.

Anonymous said...

Darren,

You're mad because i will not stop what I am doing and read your crappy book? Quite the little drama queen, aren't we? Again, your slavish devotion to this text is rather alarming.

You can call an elephant a duck but it does not make it avian. Just as you may call me an evil, republican, Statist, (or whatever other buzzwords you hipsters are using these days), because I will dare question that the Mohammedans gave this country anything other than grief. If that is all you have, I maintain that you need to get some new material.

And dont you worry about me, Sport. Taking a few trips around the world has broadened my world view considerably. I would recomend you do the same as shooting spitballs from your Ivory Tower seem to be doing you no favors.

Darren said...

Anonymous,

If you find reading a book to be too strenuous just try this single paragraph from the 1797 US Treaty with Tripoli:

"Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen,—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."


Neither President Adams nor the 1797 Senate shared your view that Muslims are all bad all the time. Now go ahead and tell me how the Founding Fathers were just a bunch of hipsters who never did anything that someone with your experience and education would approve.