Saturday, May 17, 2014

The Fine Print Everyone is Missing on the New USDA Ballistic Vests Order....

A faithful reader forwards this link under the header, "The Fine Print Everyone is Missing on the new USDA Ballistic Vests Order...." with this quote from the order and a comment:
Please note:
"Synopsis:
Added: May 07, 2014 2:24 pm
The U.S. Department of Agriculture, Office of Inspector General, located in Washington, DC and Regional Offices, pursuant to the authority of FAR Part 13, has a requirement for the commerical acquisition of ballist vests, compliant with NIJ 0101.06 for Level IIIA Ballistic Resistance of body armor.  Body armor is gender specific, lightweight, trauma plate/pad (hard or soft), concealable carrier, tactical vest, undergarment (white), identification patches, accessories (6 pouches), body armor carry bag, and professional measurements."
My 2 cents:
The 6 pouch and tactical vest requirement description on this USDA quote confirm that these are ASSAULT vests. They're what troops wear in an attack evolution. This is a full military-styled kit, not designed for typical defensive security work.

23 comments:

Pointy end out said...

Head shots.

Anonymous said...

No big deal. Just start practicing on a much smaller aiming point...the face.

Anonymous said...

So who's gonna get their marching orders first?

MikeH. said...

Just a thought...

Eventually arm and equip nearly all 22 + million government employees and dear leader gets the "civilian security force" he promised back in 2008.

This has the potential of creating an extremely long and even bloodier conflict; if it ever comes down to that.

MikeH.
III

Anonymous said...

I believe that this arming and armoring of federal agencies is another Obama "under the radar" unconstitutional effort to create a "civilian national security force."

Anonymous said...

Speaking only for myself - I didn't miss that detail.

Merle

Anonymous said...

Geee, I wonder if one of those will survive an RPG strike....

To say nothing the more innovative approaches in small arms....

Mike H has it right
because they've done nothing but war game this and the numbers aren't on their side.

Crustyrusty said...

Last data I could find:

Federal Cops- 192,354
State/Local Cops- 723,427

Total Cops 915,781

Total military- 2,220,412

Assume that "maybe" 1 in 7 of the military knows how to handle a weapon beyond basic quals and you have a little over 300k.

Make what you will of the numbers.

Dan said...

My thought is that these will get passed along to the Forest Service which falls under Agriculture.

Since the national forests these days are full of meth cooks and dope fields, I can't blame them for wanting some body armor, or the ability to hook an ammo or canteen pouch to it.

Now my thought is that if I was going to be walking around in the woods with tweakers and dope growers, a .40 cal SMG would NOT be my choice of weapon, which makes one of those things not like the other...

Allen said...

the problem is with downsizing the military..where will a lot of those trained door-kickers go? they're used to working for uncle sugar, take orders well, and usually don't ask too many questions.

to a guy just back from afghanistan, it looks a hell of a lot better than unemployment.

Robert Fowler said...

Think of it as FREEFOR resupply. Shoot them in the face and take what you need.

Anonymous said...

Wonder how many government employees with all the fancy equipment are Threepers.

Slobyskysa Rotchikokov said...

@ MIKE H - Well said, about the 'civilian forces' but since Obongo has zero experience with combat, combat troops, or anything other than the field-stripping of Reggie Love's equipment, he has totally overlooked one fact.

A 'civilian' security force will likely lose any taste for engagement after seeing a few of their friends being spattered about the landscape. Men who are trained by the armed forces, even they often have trouble pulling the trigger in initial combat experience. Unless one is a psychopath, there is a need to overcome a deep seated internal reluctance toward killing other human beings. If Obongo's 'civilian security' forces ever become a reality, I predict that the ground will be littered with all the arms and ammo we could want, after the first bloody encounter.

Dakota said...

Level IIIA is not a stop all armor, it is light, flexible, but rifles will penetrate easily.

FedUp said...

http://www.daybydaycartoon.com/051814.jpg

Anonymous said...

Hips and heads.

BalkanDeputy said...

More free stuff for ME!

Anonymous said...

For the soon-to-come day when all the EBT/SNAP cards come up $00.00

Mark Matis said...

Do they wear this body armor when they sleep? Will it protect them from a free cocktail delivery through their bedroom window in the middle of the night? After all, it is THEY who have alreay set the Rules of Engagement. Why not let them and theirs enjoy the "fruits of their labors" in full accordance with those rules???

CowboyDan said...

Russian Slob (No offense meant; I hope it's a rough but workable translation)

I've been saying for years that the high end weaponry all the .gov goons are amassing will turn into ARVN (never been fired, only dropped once) specials as soon as shit starts hitting the fan.

Remember the old Bill Cosby shtick about his time as a corpsman? "You'll notice the medics are dropping like flies..."

"Anybody know how to get red crosses off of helmets? Morphine for steel wool!"

The Feds shoot .40S&W Sigs, right? I don't have a Sig, but I do like .40's. Do Sig mags fit Glocks, or do I need to buy a new pistol?

I figure all the 5.56 mags are pretty interchangeable, so I'll just pick those up as I find them.

I just hope the POLIZEI ribbons come off easily. I don't want yo get shot for picking up stuff off the street.

Anonymous said...

Just wondering, will class III body armor stop a 06 round at 200 yards. If not its not much use to be warring it.

SWIFT said...

Just wondering, will class 111 body armor stop a 12 gauge three inch magnum flechette round?

j said...

Yes, Cowboy Dan, I think you have a good idea and you could make a dollar or two. Have some self-adhesive III per emblems to be slapped on over the Polizei or whatever ID, add another round-shaped patch to cover up any new holes in the helmets, and ready to roll!
Later we can all meet up to barter the spoils and see who needs what. Just think - it could bring the community together on weapons barter days!! "Trade you ten .45 rounds for one BMG 50." "Hey, got any green tips on 308?" , "No, but got plenty of black tips and some 10mm mags over here."