Sunday, May 18, 2014

Another alternate universe heard from . . .

5 conservative delusions that are getting more insane every day
3) Gun culture. The great myth the right has pushed for decades is that people need guns for personal safety, to protect against home intruders who are bent on raping and murdering them. It’s hard to deny the right to self-defense, but the tactic is fundamentally dishonest because having a gun in the home significantly raises the likelihood you’re going to be murdered. But no longer content simply to lie to people about guns, right-wing media has upped the ante, now arguing that a little pre-emptive murder of teenagers who are not actually out to murder you is good for overall safety and security.
You see it with the attempts to turn George Zimmerman into a hero, even though it’s indisputable that he chased down and shot an unarmed Trayvon Martin. Sean Hannity recently experimented with pushing the envelope even further, by championing the cause of a man who entrapped his victims with the intent to kill them for stealing from him. Byron Smith knew that his victims — Haile Kifer, 18, and Nick Brady, 17 — had no intention of harming anyone with their admittedly stupid teenage stunt of breaking into houses to steal stuff. That’s why he set up an elaborate ruse to trick them into thinking his house was empty (including driving away and sneaking back into his dark house on foot) for the sole purpose of shooting them dead. Smith was found guilty of murder.
But Hannity couldn’t resist trying to turn him into a hero, claiming it was somehow self-defense because the kids “broke into the guy’s house.” This goes well beyond the lie that guns make you safe. The argument here is that pre-emptive vigilantism and the summary execution of people guilty of nothing more than petty crime is somehow “self-defense.”

18 comments:

Anonymous said...

No matter the circumstances, they DID break into someone elses home.

Anonymous said...

I notice that when the Left is promulgating a whopper that would gag Josef Goebbels they say it is "indisputable, or "settled science" or so some other vessel of guano to indicate that disagreement is a sign of mental dysfunction. _revjen45

Anonymous said...

Stealing my property may be petty to another but it is quite serious to me. Moreover, the TRUTH is that there is no higher offense than to violate the rights of another, property rights among them.

Respect for these rights, both enumerated and not, is the very glue that binds a just society. And this petty fool thinks disintegrating that glue is somehow helpful?

Anonymous said...

Same land mass, different people. Let's win it.

David said...

Alternate Universe, all right. Amanda Marcotte.

That being said, ambushing a couple of burglars and killing them instead of holding them at gunpoint for the police IS likely to result in what this resulted in.

Life threatened? OK to shoot.

Life not threatened? Not OK to shoot.

Pretty clear.

Anonymous said...


Its way past time for us to continue explaining why or for what our rights exist.. We should expect them to just be..
Its past time for explaining, past time for defending and past time for allowing the attacks to continue..
It's past time because its time.

Anonymous said...

"it’s indisputable that he chased down and shot an unarmed Trayvon Martin..."

A jury, as well as police photographs of the Back of George Zimmerman's head covered in Blood from being pounded into the concrete says otherwise.

Anonymous said...

I train, I prep, I exercise. The rest is unworthy of my attention.

Shawn McEwen said...

Well, maybe I am crazy, or evil, or stupid, or angry, but I'm still keeping every single gun I own. That's the part that really pisses them off too.

I like that.

Anonymous said...

LEFTISTS LIE. They have to in order to win.

That they intend to win using any means necessary, should not be tolerated anymore.

We've seen this movie before and it ends very badly for everyone but them, when they get away with constant lies, in pursuit of power.

Anonymous said...

Another issue: can we be called
"conservatives" any more?
maybe "restorationist" but that
has a Euro-monarchic tinge.

Anonymous said...

There is so much wrong with that bloviation, that I cannot even begin to fisk it. It would take waaaay too long, and the idiot would either not listen or (more likely) not understand.
So, in self defense,I would turn and laugh in this fool's face. Long, loud, and often. I can almost guar-an-damn-tee that he would lose it. As far as I've been told, idiot Libtards HATE being laughed at.

B Woodman
III-per

Anonymous said...

LOL...It's idiots like this that give me a great deal of glee when here in up state NY i read of some lib-tard in NYC that got their head pounded in by a poor unfortunate group of kids committing "petty crimes"...If they want to be masochists fine, but don't ask me to be one too....

FedUp said...

ANON@9:03:

From what I remember of my undergrad poli sci class, Conservatives want to preserve the status quo (in our case, holding the line where the last Progressives drew it).

A Reactionary is a person who holds political viewpoints that favor a return to a previous state (the status quo ante) in a society. (yeah, I looked that one up to make sure I had the right word and pasted the definition)

Anonymous said...

Does anyone really believe that this country can be salvaged? I think the divide has grown too wide.

Progressive liberals want to rule.
Warmongers want to monger.
Statists want to state.
Conservatives want to conserve.
Moochers want to mooch.
Thieves want to steal.
Government wants to govern.
Oppressors want to oppress.
The fearful want a police state.

Then there are some that just want to be left alone to pursue life, liberty, and happiness without being hassled by the above listed groups.


Shane

Anonymous said...

Just laugh, don't waste time and ORGANIZE, ARM, EQUIP AND TRAIN. It's all that matter's. Elections are a (computerized)fraud. Patrick Henry's Give Me Liberty speech--read it!

Anonymous said...

I believe The Bible says, if a thief shall enter your home in the night and be slain, no blood for him shall be shed.
It may not be an accurate quote, and I'm not a Bible thumper, but even so, a thief is a thief and if they're killed stealing, no one should be punished for it.

Justice Be Done

Happy D said...

Never forget that Andrew Breitbart's greatest act may have been to help form Salon.com so these ignorant sub-intellects would expose their lack of thought to the whole world.
Exactly like this.