"The meek, he had been told, would inherit the earth, but only when the last soldier left it to them in his will." -- Captain Richard Sharpe, in Sharpe's Company by Bernard Cornwell, Chapter 10.
Piece of Mind.
Sebastian, the ultimate pragmatist, has presented his read on the bills now entered, or about to be entered, into Congress: "We have a lot of work to do on the magazine issue. Most people, at this point, even pundits and elites, know the “assault weapons” issue is a crock of shit. The magazine issue is a different story." I left this comment on his blog which was not approved:
It doesn't matter what they pass, enough of us will defy it to make the choice mandatory for the rest of you. Fight or disarm.
Sebastian and other Fudd "pragmatists" may continue to hide from this reality if they choose, but J.D. Longstreet understands this in his piece The Next American Civil War:
At first glance it appears to be lunacy of the highest order—and yet—here we are on the cusp of violence to defend something the political left, an authoritarian cabal itself, cannot abide, AT ALL: personal freedom, individual freedom. . .
And now they intend to disarm us.
Look. There is so much pent-up anger in America today that if this argument over gun control ever gets beyond the talking stage it is reasonable to believe there will be violence on a scale not seen since the 1860’s in this country.
These fears are reinforced by the promises of the antis to 'pry guns from cold, dead fingers'.
But the time has not come to begin shooting -- yet. Feinstein's Intolerable Act has not yet passed, let alone begun to be enforced. The raid parties are not yet forming. However, the time HAS come for each of us to decide what form our resistance will take.
Some of us, myself included, are already on the public stage so we might as well dance. For us, the struggle will be a political one of letters, demonstrations, passive and active resistance designed to put the regime on notice that this line they have drawn will not be crossed without further resistance, even righteous, justifiable self-defense of our lives, liberty and property. We shall be the rattlesnake's rattle, the low growl of the wolverine, saying "Don't tread on me." Our job is to put them on notice so that they don't blunder uninformed into this civil war that the unintended consequences of their actions will spark. Our job will be to get in their faces and say plainly, "If you try to take our firearms we will kill you." This is the same moral requirement that we would be under if a convicted home invader and rapist out on parole met us in the street and announced that he was coming to our home that night to rob, rape and kill. Would we be justified in killing him on the spot? No. But we would be obligated to warn him that if he attempts it we will kill him. Those who also have a record of robbing and raping the Founders' republic and killing its citizens to work their will upon them deserve the same sort of warning.
Some of us will also be doing political work, but behind the scenes, doing such things as privately putting each of our county sheriffs and other politicians on the spot -- here is the Intolerable Act, will you enforce it or help us resist it?
Others of us, the majority I suspect, will simply be the hidden core of resistance, using the intervening time by seeing to their own training and logistics, awaiting the day when the Feds, having lost patience with those of us who publicly defy them, finally begin killing us. These will be the folks who will execute a Fourth Generation civil war upon the tyrant's leadership -- and only them to the greatest extent possible -- with the target of breaking their will as they prosecute their treasonable war against the Founders' republic. They are willing to fight to the last ATF agent and local policeman to enforce their will. But it will be by their own aggression, and the 4GW reaction to it, that we will then discover if they are willing to fight to the first Senator, the second congressman, the third White House aide, the fourth editor, the fifth Hollywood propagandist using Bill Clinton's revised rules of engagement against the Serb's in 1999. Unintended consequences indeed.
It will be the time of One Hundred Heads, may God spare us all from its horrors.
The point is that each of us must decide now what form our resistance will take. Either that, or prepare to disarm. Time is just about up. Those who are busy subverting the Founders' republic have told us so.
"Son, you don't poke a wolverine with a sharp stick unless you want your balls ripped off." -- Grandpa Vanderboegh.
32 comments:
How to keep track of un-serial numbered, paid with cash, no "4473" style records, privately traded, swapped and sold - magazines (of any capacity, large or small)??
A gargantuan task, even and especially for the Fools on The Hill within Mordor on the Potomac.
But no doubt, they will find a way to try,sending their BATFEces minions to do their bidding.
And if they attempt to stop current commercial production, I'm sure their are some very clever people (III-pers or not) with home machine shops
. . . .willing to pick up the slack, thumb their nose in the tyrant's faces, and make a little extra money on the side.
(Whew! Able to finish in spite of my @@##%% tablet)
B Woodman
III-per
. . .Which leads to my question, where can we get the tooling for stamping AR, AK and FAL magazines?
Sir It is your DUTY to kill the rapeist ,murder, or tyrant. Once he has done his evil deed he MUST BE KILLED. If the state is to cowardly or corrupted to do it,THEN WE MUST. At that moment and without warning or further provocation. If you mean to be free,Then BE FREE. Stop asking your master if HE feals like defending you. The jews say that if you know that a man will come to your home tomarrow to kill you , get out of bed early and kill him first. The government has no lawfull right to limit or take you rights. YOU have the right to kill them if they try. This is not about "bad law".This is about DEATHCAMPS ,for that is exactly what will happen if this "law" comes to pass. I am told that if we fight we will die. I respond that we WILL DIE ,fight or not, I'll die fighting ;thank you. PS make no mistake our government plans Waco X 100 million. What do you guys think 5 BILLION rounds of ammunition ARE FOR? They plan on killing every MAN WOMAN AND CHILD of us, they just hope we are stupid egnough to give our wepons up first.
I expect the same result as we saw with the 'fiscal cliff'. The Republicans will agree, behind closed doors and prior to public 'negotiations', to make every concession asked of them. They will make a dramatic show for the public, relying on their well practiced acting skills, but will, in the end, surrender as they intended to all along.
@B Woodman (Anonymous):
They won't even try to keep track. The rule will say you have to prove ownership. Because there's no serial number, even a purchase receipt can't be proven to apply to a particular magazine. When you can't prove it, it's confiscated (or a felony).
It's not a bug; it's a feature.
As evil as they were, Mohammed and Malvo showed us a way to wage this war when it come.
I intend to be the rattlesnakes fangs and venom.
I already have. My precision rifles are well dialed in with dope known for the various rounds I load. My battle rifles are zeroed, cleaned and oiled and magazines are loaded. With quick decisive targeted strikes, we could chop off the head of the snake and remove the worst of the tyrants. The rest will know they arent as safe as they assumed, the Tree will have been Watered and life will resume for the better. Much easier said than done, I know. Nothing is impossible though.
III
Mil spec mags have dates of manufacture. Made before the ban, legal after the ban. Not that they'll be able to read the date from 100 Yds. in front of the muzzle, but you'll know you're legal.
:-)
PLEASE, oh PLEASE, do put your money where your mouth is (I know, a bad metaphor for a broken down crippled old man living off government largesse without two coins to rub together, but you get the drift). PLEASE do criminally break any new laws that are passed so your dumb fat ass can end your days on this planet in a cell. Or, if you insist, you may go to your grave for violently resisting agents of the law. It'll save you the trouble of having to saw off various body parts as the diabetes does its work.
You and your depraved kind are a laughing stock to the civilized world.
Anonymous (4:52 PM),
Federalist 28
http://www.constitution.org/fed/federa28.htm
If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers, may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual state. In a single state, if the persons intrusted with supreme power become usurpers, the different parcels, subdivisions, or districts of which it consists, having no distinct government in each, can take no regular measures for defense. The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair.
Federalist 46
http://www.constitution.org/fed/federa46.htm
But ambitious encroachments of the federal government, on the authority of the State governments, would not excite the opposition of a single State, or of a few States only. They would be signals of general alarm. Every government would espouse the common cause. A correspondence would be opened. Plans of resistance would be concerted. One spirit would animate and conduct the whole. The same combinations, in short, would result from an apprehension of the federal, as was produced by the dread of a foreign, yoke; and unless the projected innovations should be voluntarily renounced, the same appeal to a trial of force would be made in the one case as was made in the other.
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Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of. Notwithstanding the military establishments in the several kingdoms of Europe, which are carried as far as the public resources will bear, the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. And it is not certain, that with this aid alone they would not be able to shake off their yokes.
Looks like we have a bootlicker in our midst. I hope he enjoys the taste because there are going to be a lot of boots out there pretty soon.
Problem is, Mr. Bootlicker, that wars once started don't stop where you think they should or how you think they should. It might not be some of us rotting in a cell, although that too is possible. It might be you hanging by your heels from a lamp post. Hope you're OK with that.
See you in the middle of the field Ano.Bring your "A" game .
Hello, Mr. Anonymous, It's so brave and forthcoming of you to post your missive under your real name. You must come from a rather large family, since we so many of you on these blogs. Do you plan on personally assisting with this confiscation program, or will we find you hiding under your bed with the rest of your relatives?
Thanks for posting the toon! :)
Gee, Anonymous 5:42 PM
How about those of us that aren't broken down and crippled, but are combat tested? Just keep hiding and you'll be alright you little pussy troll.
Don't fear the night, fear what hunts at night.
Thousands of us actually understand the oath we took.
Devildog
Sgt USMC
My response to the gungrabbers?
"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? After all, you knew ahead of time that those bluecaps were out at night for no good purpose. And you could be sure ahead of time that you’d be cracking the skull of a cutthroat. Or what about the Black Maria sitting out there on the street with one lonely chauffeur — what if it had been driven off or its tires spiked. The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!"
The Gulag Archipelago taught me everything I need to know about being an unarmed slave to government.
Dear Anonymous,
My guess is you're a good little slave, er, subject, living in Britianistan.
Glad we ran your kind out in 1776. Gonna have to do it again here soon.
Consequences are always unintended.
http://tinyurl.com/TipgPt
Obamacare...bad but eh..survivable.
Attack the Devine Right to defend person and property from a tyranical government...they must have a death wish.
Those Serbian RoE's were effective and would be here. Most would hide in bunker DC; but they still have to eat, drink, and crap.
Si vis pacem, para bellum
III/0317
"Civilized" anonymous:
Thanks for the reminder how the Civilized (City-Statist) cruelly mocks and slaughters Non-State lifeways, from City-builder Cain murdering pastoralist Abel to Wounded Knee.
"Civilization [State society] originates in conquest abroad and repression at home." ~Stanley Diamond, In Search of the Primitive: A Critique of Civilization, p. 1, first sentence
Anyway, I found your daddy third picture down.
[from that reference:] "...if we aspire to break the bonds domestication has laid on us, stop being dogs and become wolves again."
Homo Homini Lupus
This is the same moral requirement that we would be under if a convicted home invader and rapist out on parole met us in the street and announced that he was coming to our home that night to rob, rape and kill. Would we be justified in killing him on the spot?
WRONG. That's the entire point of the Castle doctrine, of stand-your-ground laws, frankly of the war of independence, of Independence itself.
If you see a criminal coming towards you, you have a duty to be ready to respond with lethal force, and you have a duty to make that response.
The President, Senate Majority Leader and House Minority Leader have already made their unconstitutional plans crystal clear.
Morally, they are already in our houses, demanding our property. Morally, we can have only one response.
"Temnota said...
. . .Which leads to my question, where can we get the tooling for stamping AR, AK and FAL magazines?"
And M14 Magazines too
Anonymous (January 4, 2013 5:42 PM),
Why would I see YOU in the field? Do you plan on butting into our fight against the representatives who violate our rights?
Just sit back for a bit and we may actually get to talk about the calculation problem of Socialism, or how Anti-Trust legislation is the source of Corporatism, or how central banks are the source of Empire.
Collectivists, per se, aren't my concern. It's the collectivists in government who are violating our rights.
Secession is the only answer to the never ending cry of the progressive-fascist.
Even if this latest Gun Confiscation Lobby scheme is defeated, the progressive-fascist agenda will proceed ahead in other areas.
Enough!
In my travels I saw a man make a part for an air liner. He took a piece of wood, and shaped it. He then formed aluminum it the shape needed.
I have seen wire made into springs for weapons.
I even watched a man make a Colt .45 copy in a work shop in the PI.
We can do the same to make mags, rifles, or even better weapons. We just have to want to and find a way.
All I know is an Oath I swore back a long time ago is still in effect. That means I will not give 1 inch. I will not comply. I will resist. So help me God.
I hope to see you on the other side, if we don't see each other we can still know we have done are best and stood our groung.
Semper FI
Archer 1:51,
The point I was trying to (cleverly) make (thud!), was that how will any Gubbment agent know who has magazines, of what type and size?
You could have one, or ten, a hundred, or several hundred. Who's to know?
ESPECIALLY if an underground manufactoring and black market is successfully set up due to this oncoming train wreck of an AWB bill.
B Woodman
III-PER
Surely AR magazine bodies & followers are well within the ability of current 3D printing?
Certainly P-mags look doable.
I have "enough" FAL & L1A1 magazines to spare "a few" for the needy among friends.
The utility of the Fatwah is readily becoming more and more apparent!
III
Those gun people will probably try to hide their firearms in the event of a draconian gun law-here is what they would do:
Large PVC pipe sections with glued-on end caps might be used for smaller items like guns, ammunition, and precious metals. Guns could be wrapped in oil-drenched rags and inside plastic bags. When gluing, these scofflaws would know to swab surfaces with PVC primer first then make sure to quickly and thoroughly slop lots of PVC glue on the parts to be joined, speedily join them, rotating a partial turn, and hold them tightly in place for at least five seconds, ensuring a watertight capsule. Some might use a clean-out plug for easier opening, well sealed on both threaded surfaces with sticky wax from a wax toilet ring after the cache capsule is loaded for burial.
Where might they bury these capsules? Scofflaws realize that anything metal (gold, silver, guns & ammo) buried in their yard or hidden in their wall or attic can be easily located with a good metal detector and they could be prosecuted for noncompliance or conspiracy to withhold contraband if detected. Therefore they are apt to select an off-site location that is free from prying eyes as they bury, a site also unlikely to be bulldozed in the near future. First they would select a spot that aligns with permanent features so they could relocate it. They would use a small tarp to protect the surface from soil spillage and load one or more plastic buckets with their excavated earth. Before digging, they would carefully set aside any surface debris so they could replace it afterward to disguise their digging location. A smart illegal hoarder would tamp the earth well as they covered the cache capsule so it will not settle, leaving a telltale depression.
@ Anonymouse 10:26; When it is time to burry your weapons, ir is time to dig them up.
Patric Henry, over 200 years ago, spoke words that could not be truer than the day he spoke them:
They tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot? Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations, and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable--and let it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come.
It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace-- but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!
So which is it? Hide and cower hoping one day you can legally dig them up again or will you use them as a Free Man or Woman? I would MUCH rather to die Free than live as a slave.
Made before the ban, legal after the ban
nope, not how it's done, wasn't done that way in Canada last year or Australia the year before in Germany in the 1930s.
The UN rules are quite clear: guns are illegal.
Doesn't matter when they were made or bought, if you have an "illegal" gun they you are consider a felon, the Feds can send in the ATF and try to take our your entire damn family.
And that's the real preparation - when a couple of ATF agents in Kevlar have your wife & kids on the sharp end of their Glock 18s - what're you gonna do?
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