Friday, December 2, 2011

"S.1867: Just another brick in the police state wall."



Marti Oakley:

I am sometimes baffled by how quickly many people quickly assume that because they were not personally named in some piece of legislation, that somehow the provisions of that legislation do not and could not apply to them. Having spent a great deal of time over the years dissecting legislative language, backtracking changes to code & title and the ever popular “redefinition of terms” used to change the entire common understanding of what a word or phrase means within these tortured constructs called legislation, I know better.

My recent article on S.1867 elicited comments to the effect that a few commenters had read the bill and that I was simply being inflammatory and emotional. Yes…..of course….that must be it.

Lest anyone forget:

* The insidious Patriot Act followed by
* The Security Enhancement Act of 2003,
* the infamous Military Commissions Act 2006,
* followed by the John Warner Defense Authorization Act 2007 and,
* which called for the suspension of habeas corpus (4th Amendment due process)
* all of which gave the president the power to arbitrarily determine on his own, that any one of us was a “domestic terrorist” and going even further to
* allow the president to strip us of our citizenship at his discretion with no oversight.


Marti leaves the Clintonista-era Counter-Terrorism Act off the front of her list, but is otherwise dead-on.

Each of these unconstitutional bills was a piece of the puzzle being constructed incrementally as the Constitution and our rights were being trashed.

These anti-American laws were not the only affront to the Constitution, our rights and the advancement of the police state. Now why, you might be asking, would anyone want to give the president of the United States the arbitrary authority to strip any US citizen of their citizenship with no evidence other than his/her belief that one of us is a terrorist, or supports terrorism, without the evidence supporting that contention, or being officially charged with a crime?


Why indeed. Maybe because the elites of both political parties want it that way?

11 comments:

Mt Top Patriot said...

Mike,
Check this out:

Linked at http://swordattheready.wordpress.com/2011/12/01/more-chess-pieces-move-obama-lawyers-say-u-s-citizens-are-legit-military-targets/

Obama Legal Vultures say Citizens can be targeted for killing if they are at war with US government.

In conjunction with the post below, todays offering from the Regime is a statement from Obama’s “National Security lawyers” that U.S. Citizens are legit military targets if they are at war with the country:

WASHINGTON (AP) — Top national security lawyers in the Obama administration say U.S. citizens are legitimate military targets when they take up arms with al-Qaida….

….Johnson said only the executive branch, not the courts, are equipped to make decisions about who qualifies as an enemy.

The Colonel said...

This brings to mind the statement ,When they came for ----- I did nothing ,when they came for ----I did nothing ,then they came for me and no one HELPED ME!
Because nobody was left. GOD PLEASE HELP US !
They are holding a match to the fuse !!!

Ashrak said...

The Commander in Chief is and has to be the decider. There cannot be an endless array of 535 deciders because nothing will ever be actually decided - there will only be endless debate and paralyzation.

The Founders and Original Framers knew this and admitted this to themselves and to posterity, which is why a Office of the President itself was crafted. That said, they also knew that unchecked power leads only to tyranny, which is why they so protected and checked that office within its original crafting.

It is right and proper for a President to identify a terrorist and to direct military forces to defend against them, that isn't where the problem rests. The problem comes to pass when the Legislature rejects its own responsibility to check that authority- most especially by withholding monies when a particular office holder abuses that authority.

All three branches of government have learned that so long as all three get to act outside their Constitutional Authority, the other two will look past each other's impropriety.

That is when We The People have to step up to the plate and exercise the stop gap measure the Framers built into the government of this nation. The HOUSE. We must vote all those who refuse to do their duty OUT of the HOUSE and thus put an end to the MONEY FLOW. That is HOW we starve the beast and regain lost Liberty.

The answer is to withhold our consent to be governed this way. If we take the HOUSE away from the elites in BOTH parties, their power and their authority, both so abused, is nullified. Without the money that must come through the HOUSE, they, the party elites, have no authority and no power.

Vote 'em out, every last one of them!

Anonymous said...

We have no constitutional right left.

Consider also what just happened in a federal court in Texas. In this case, As described at http://LawInjustice.com , a Dallas business owner was involved in a civil dispute and paid millions of dollars to lawyers, and when he objected to additional fees after settling the case, they had a "friendly" judge, seize all of his possessions, without any notice or hearing, and essentially ordered him under “house arrest” as an involuntary servant to the lawyers and denied a jury trial and even claimed that his orders are enforceable by death. The business owner has been under this "servant" order for 10 months and is prohibited from owning any possessions, prohibited from working, etc..

Da Curly Wolf said...

Actor George Takei[Sulu from Star Trek} Sees history about to be repeating itself. Not in a pleasant way either. Ala internment camps. Since he spent time in one as a little child after Pearl Harbor...me thinks he's right on the money. Sigh..why is it that people keep being warned and fail to listen?

Anonymous said...

@ Ashrak....

Voting? How's that been working out for us?

Anonymous said...

November 25, 2011, Black Friday, had the most background checks for firearm purchases in a single day (129,166) with a 32 percent increase over the previous NICS high (November 28, 2008).

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2815219/posts

Bad Cyborg said...

Looks like both my Senators voted FOR the thing. Treasonous Bitch and Bastard!

We have taken another step towards the abyss. The elites are determined to push us.

Hope both are on somebody's 100 head list.

Anonymous said...

Mike,
I've been asking myself, over the last several years, what is my proverbial line in the sand? S.1867 IS MY LINE. Treat me like a criminal, I will behave like a criminal. The gloves will come off. As the Holy Bible states quite clear...an eye for an eye. Come getcha some motherf____rs!!

Anonymous said...

Is anyone really surprised by this?A congress with single digit approval numbers.they are circling the wagons to protect their own asses.Where are the American people?Hardly one whimper of protest from them!What the Hell is it going to take to wake up the masses to the nightmare daily unfolding around us?Himmler is rolling in his grave now with envy.When we hear the cadence of hobnail boots goosestepping down our streets IT WILL BE TOO LATE!

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