Sipsey Street Irregulars: David Codrea: ATF’s Phoenix SAC emailed Gunwalker info to National Security Council.

Tuesday, July 26, 2011

David Codrea: ATF’s Phoenix SAC emailed Gunwalker info to National Security Council.

An exchange between House Committee on Oversight and Reform Committee members and William Newell, former Special Agent in Charge of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosive’s Phoenix Field Division during this morning’s hearings on Operation Fast and Furious pointed to key information that may be the most important to come out of today’s session.

Exactly correct.

Transcript of Newell questioning related to NSC's O'Reilly

6 comments:

Mickey Collins said...: More F&F type activity?

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/atf-announces-seven-new-gunrunner-groups-and-phoenix-gun-runner-impact-teams-successes-103142434.html

As a result of the 2010 emergency supplemental appropriation for border security, ATF received $37.5 million for Project Gunrunner, ATF's comprehensive firearms trafficking strategy to disrupt the illegal flow of firearms into Mexico. With this funding, ATF will establish and place firearms trafficking groups along traditional and newly-discovered firearms trafficking routes and hubs in Atlanta; Dallas; Brownsville, Texas; Las Vegas; Miami; Oklahoma City; and Sierra Vista, Ariz.; July 26, 2011 at 7:56 PM
Anonymous said...: Comment on the posting by Mickey Collins on July 26, 2011, at 5:56 PM.

Sierra Vista, Arizona, is the location of Fort Huachuca, Arizona, home of the United States Army Worldwide Intelligence Center and School. Read Military Intelligence.

Miami, Florida, had several little spook shops scattered around the area during the Bay of Pigs years ago. Don't know if USA spook shops are still in that area.

On a posting herein elsewhere remarks were presented regarding a guy named O'Reilly (sp.). Comments regarding him from unnamed sources used the words 'ghost' and 'sheep-dipped'. That is suggestive to me that this O'Reilly is a CIA Liaison Officer more or less permanently assigned to that particular office within the US Department of State (DOS) to coordinate Operation Fast and Furious details between CIA and DOS.

So my question(s) is/are:

Was Operation Fast and Furious dreamed up by someone within the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (BATF)?

Or was Operation Fast and Furious dreamed up by someone within the Department of Justice (DOJ), and then it flowed down to the BATF?

Or was Operation Fast and Furious dreamed up by someone in the CIA - and is part of a larger ongoing operation unknown to us?;

And is the CIA using the DOJ and the BATF as fronts for their ongoing operation(s)?

It looks like the Sipsey Street Irregulars may be entering an area of the Twilight Zone known as 'Spook City'. How big is the rabbit hole, and how far down does it go?

If this is part of a CIA operation, the operation would have to have been approved by members of the National Security Council, and that takes it directly into the White House, and directly to Obama.; July 26, 2011 at 10:24 PM
Fresno Dave said...: Does the Ruger Mini-14 used by the shooter in Norway trace back to Operation Fast and Furious?

Inquiring minds want to know.; July 26, 2011 at 11:25 PM
Ben said...: If the Ruger mini-14 used by the shooter in Norway could be linked with Operation fast and furious, that would just make the whole gunwalker scandal a lot worse. But I doubt it will be.; July 27, 2011 at 5:02 AM
Bad Cyborg said...: Whean I read "You didn't get this from me.". I figure that the one saying it is indicating that the statement is not to be attributed to them and that if it IS, it will be disavowed.

But I figure MOST people understand the phrase that way (even those of us who had to look up the word "pleonasm". That being so, why did no one on the committee ASK "Wild Bill" why he used the phrase - DIRECTLY!

If I seem a bit upset this morning, it is because I am. Some inbred, misbegotten scion of a diseased and degenerate line is playing a game with me. He keeps messing with the flag I have mounted on the pillar of my front porch. The first time he pulled the pole out of its mounting and tossed it onto my roof. I set screws into the pole. This weekend I replaced it with a Nyberg 3per Flag and DTOM banner. This morning I found flag and banner on my sidewalk. I modified the attachment points on the pole and remounted them. Clearly I have neighbors who wish me less than well.; July 27, 2011 at 9:01 AM
Dennis308 said...: Mickey and Anon: 07/26/11, 20:24
This is a comment I made on Mikes posting of
"The Gun-Walker Scandal and Mexican Presidential Politics"
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" "On July 3, Mexican authorities captured Jesus Enrique Rejon Aguilar, known as Z-7, one of the original 14 principle leaders of the extremely violent Zetas drug cartel. He disclosed his belief that the U.S. government was involved in facilitating arms to a rival criminal gang, the Gulf cartel."

More than likely it was the other way around. I have a suspicion that the Zetas are a U.S. Government Operation set up to cause Destabilization of Mexico. You have to understand that these Zetas are former Mexican Special Forces that were sent to the U.S. to receive their Training for use in Calderon's Mexican War on Mexico's Drug Cartels. There was relative peace between the cartels except against the Juarez( I don't remember the real name of the Cartel) Based between the Cartel de Gulfo (Gulf of Mexico to Falcon Lake)and the Sinaloa Cartel Between the Pacific Ocean to the Nogales Area. Since the Zetas have come into the Cartel Picture the Violence has Multiplied ten Fold if not more. So Jesus Enrique Rejon Aguilar is probably Lying just as he has been Ordered to do. I know this sounds a little crazy. BUT the Government Running Guns to The Mexican Drug Cartels sounds just a little Crazy also, Don't you think.

Remember, I LIVE down here on this Freaking Border and have done so for a number of years. I'm not the only one around here who thinks this might be true.

This could be what ties Calderon to Gun-Walker(maybe HE knew)He came and spoke before Congress about the U.S. Gun Control BEFORE Gun-Walker caused the Death of CBP Agent Brian Terry or ICE Agent Jammie Zapata.
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Now CIA involvement is NOT so far fetched if you consider that a disruption of Cartel Turf and Mexican Politics are damn near ONE AND The SAME. Disrupt the Cartels and you disrupt the entire Nation.

Dennis
III
Texas

Mike Maybe this could be the CONECTION between NSC and Gun-Walker. It is only a Theory; July 27, 2011 at 12:55 PM

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