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Sunday, February 22, 2015

Proposal to allow loaded guns in vehicles without permit

"They are trying to protect their gravy train and petty political power," said Mike Vanderbough with Bama Carry. Note: I spelled my name very carefully for the reporter and I did not identify myself as a member of BamaCarry, because I am not. At least they got my line about the "Boss Hoggs and Roscoe P. Coltranes of the Alabama Sheriffs Association" in the video part.

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Anonymous said...: As demonstrated by OBAMA and his cronies, labels mean more to arbiters of knowledge than substance. Classifying people is important to them because in order to divide people, first they must be collected into groups. As for the ongoing misspelling of your name - that's a misnomer mike. They INTEND upon the errant spelling because to them it's a sign of disrespect. It's also bait. Get you talking about that "misspelling" and errant membership assigning and you aren't discussing the substance. Lucky for our side, folks on the side of liberty can "walk and chew gum" at the same time.

"Loaded in a car". They aren't empowered to make such right exercised illegal in the first place but aside from that they are hoisted by their own petard. A gun in a car is "secured in a lockable container". It's within your property. It's not being carried, it's being "transported". They are busted by their own game.

What's happening now is simple. "Legislators" are pulling their hair out trying to find was to avoid litigation controllers cannot win. A good example was Wisconsins move to go from NO CARRY straight to NO PERMIT carry openly and permit for concealed. Interesting that is because they went STRAIGHT from a outright ban to one step shy of complete constitutional carry! You know, the thing NRA bootlickers say isn't possible because it's gotta be done incrementally.... Why do Wisconsin do this as a 50 50 state at best? Because they had OTHER serious fights going on (right to work) and dint want guns influencing that political fight. SO, the collectivist Stood DOWN to what current SCOTUS carry jurisprudence is - concealed ban is permissible so long as open carry is the RIGHT(meaning open is a matter of right while concealed is a matter of permission). Now, that jurisprudence isn't proper, as it was decided upon the false premise that carry ITSELF isn't a fundamental individual right enumerated and incorporated. Tested, that premise failed and eventually both open AND concealed will and must be admitted as matters of right. What Wisconsin did was set it up so there is only one thing left to do - eliminate concealed permit structure when that decision is handed down.

Other issues decided could and will trigger that question being posed and FORCING judicial answer. Loaded in the car is just such a trigger. Rather than see that trigger pulled judicially, legislatures are trying to present politicians "fighting for our right" and "expanding gun rights". I wish more would recognize the game being played.

Great way to deal with it all?
I WILL NOT COMPLY. Better yet?
WE WE WE will exercise our rights, together, Regardless. See, that's the failure of the "optics" of the former - by exercise we actually ARE complying.... Their bans are what aren't complying. Just a matter of perspective I suppose - I think we start with the constitution AS the premise and go from there. Not trying to nit pick even though it seems so. I believe it's the right action, just misnamed. Misnomers are THEIR game - it should not be ours. But hey, that's just me.; February 22, 2015 at 12:31 PM
Paul X said...: "The loudest opponents against a similar measure last year was the Alabama Sheriff's Association."

Ah, the ever-helpful police. They have been predicting mayhem ever since Florida became the "Gunshine State" by passing concealed carry, and have been wrong EVERY SINGLE TIME. One would think a little humility would be called for by now...; February 22, 2015 at 2:06 PM
Crustyrusty said...: We have this in the Commonwealth of KY; you can carry in a glove box or center console, or in plain view for that matter. We don't particularly have an issue with I-64 turning into a shooting gallery, much to the libs' consternation.; February 22, 2015 at 2:32 PM
Anonymous said...: I don't ask permission from my servants.; February 22, 2015 at 4:35 PM
Anonymous said...: Tennessee started this last July. I'm sure ya'll have read about all the massive shootouts caused by this. No?
wildbill; February 23, 2015 at 8:55 AM
PO'd American said...: Anonymous said...

I don't ask permission from my servants.

Very well stated; we should all remember and use this statement often when dealing with liberals and other bootlickers.; February 23, 2015 at 11:14 AM
Paul X said...: Well, they aren't your servants, are they?

"In order to be the master, the politician poses as the servant."
-- Charles de Gaulle

Open your eyes. People don't run political campaigns (with all the expense and difficulty that entails, including the degrading sucking up to interest groups) just to become a servant. They go to that effort to become our masters.; February 24, 2015 at 11:47 AM
Anonymous said...: Why would you need a permit for a right? I didn't see anything in the Constitution about taking any tests or paying for any permits or licenses.; February 24, 2015 at 3:44 PM

"Progress made under the shadow of the policeman's club is false progress."

I believe that liberty is the only genuinely valuable thing that men have invented, at least in the field of government, in a thousand years. I believe that it is better to be free than to be not free, even when the former is dangerous and the latter safe. I believe that the finest qualities of man can flourish only in free air – that progress made under the shadow of the policeman's club is false progress, and of no permanent value. I believe that any man who takes the liberty of another into his keeping is bound to become a tyrant, and that any man who yields up his liberty, in however slight the measure, is bound to become a slave. -- H.L. Mencken

"The Fate of Unborn Millions. . ."

"The time is now near at hand which must probably determine, whether Americans are to be, Freemen, or Slaves; whether they are to have any property they can call their own; whether their Houses, and Farms, are to be pillaged and destroyed, and they consigned to a State of Wretchedness from which no human efforts will probably deliver them. The fate of unborn Millions will now depend, under God, on the Courage and Conduct of this army-Our cruel and unrelenting Enemy leaves us no choice but a brave resistance, or the most abject submission; that is all we can expect-We have therefore to resolve to conquer or die." -- George Washington to his troops before the Battle of Long Island.

"We will not go gently . . ."

This is no small thing, to restore a republic after it has fallen into corruption. I have studied history for years and I cannot recall it ever happening. It may be that our task is impossible. Yet, if we do not try then how will we know it can't be done? And if we do not try, it most certainly won't be done. The Founders' Republic, and the larger war for western civilization, will be lost.

But I tell you this: We will not go gently into that bloody collectivist good night. Indeed, we will make with our defiance such a sound as ALL history from that day forward will be forced to note, even if they despise us in the writing of it.

And when we are gone, the scattered, free survivors hiding in the ruins of our once-great republic will sing of our deeds in forbidden songs, tending the flickering flame of individual liberty until it bursts forth again, as it must, generations later. We will live forever, like the Spartans at Thermopylae, in sacred memory.

-- Mike Vanderboegh, The Lessons of Mumbai:Death Cults, the "Socialism of Imbeciles" and Refusing to Submit, 1 December 2008

"A common language of resistance . . ."

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