Again.
Plus: Look like a terrorist to you? Nanny state fascist perverts strip a little kid.
Plus:
Collectivist Brit says "TSA can touch my junk anytime: The pathetic whining over TSA airport security is a naked attempt to smuggle on board an unsafe rightwing ideology." Well, heck, why not? The average Brit hasn't displayed any cojones for decades. Kipling is rotating in his grave.
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I have stopped flying and I need to fly to get to my clients. Oh yeah - that means I just put my money where my mouth is meaning, SAFETY AIN'T WORTH THE PRICE OF MY LIBERTY.
All I know is that this is what it was like in "A Tale of Two Cities" right before the arrogant minor aristocrat ran over the child and didn't bother to stop. Years of patient suffering erputed in The Terror.
The original "terrorisme" and when all was said and done the French nobility was decimated, the survivors suddenly "republican". The Terror even turned on its own leaders, as Robespierre discovered the hard way.
It might be uglier here. But it's a coming.
MV, apologies but I see I mistyped my nom de guerre in the above post. It should of course be Charles Darnay.
A thousand apologies.
I heard a survey mentioned on talk radio saying a very high percentage of people who normally fly on Thanksgiving say they won't be this year. Did it really say 98%? That's what I THINK I heard. May it be so, and put these search Nazis out of a job.
I saw a bumper sticker today saying "I Choose Liberty." I wanted to wave, salute and shake their hand.
I've gotta clarify something...
The boy was apparently resisting the "search" (damn shame he'll lose that natural instinct as he "matures") and Dad - disgusted with the whole thing - pulled off his shirt and handed it to the stasi-thug...er... "TSA professional' "
They didn't strip the kid - Dad did.
Not that it makes the entire situation less offensive, but I still think it's a point that needs to be noted.
I may be forced to fly at the end of the month - if I do, I'll enter the "security" line in a speedo and flip-flops.
Dead serious...
DD
This video of a 500-foot-long line to get through security at O'Hare in Chicago is dated November 16th.
The Slumbering Herd.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fmw01mAvkw&feature=player_embedded
I stopped flying shortly after 9/11, when I had an altercation with TSA at the Ft. Lauderdale/Hollywood airport. The cuffs were out but not used. There are a lot of places I can go, and I will drive or take the bus or train. I attended the 9/12/09 rally in D.C> and took AmTrak. I was not wanded, I was not run through a metal detector, I was not strip-searched or exposed to a full-body scan.
And thanks, Charles, for taking a stand and putting your money where your mouth is - NOT on an airliner. If everyone who is screaming "FOUL!" would do this instead of tucking their heads up their asses and submitting to this perversity, maybe we could stop the TSA. When the airlines are going tits-up, they'll be in Congress in a NY minute.
What is to be done?
Hi Mike,
The "Telescreen" of "1984" has arrived at your local airport in the form of the "Bodyscanner" and "TSA Grope!" As "Invasive" as the current system is, just think how much more fun they will have when they implement "Full Body Cavity Searches" on "EVERYONE!!!!!" "AND STINK? MY GOD DID THEY STINK!!" UBL is laughing his ass off!!!! Sheesh!!!...'Think I'll just WALK!
III%,
skybill-out
Unless this flight was a life or death situation, what decent parent or guardian stands by and allows their child to be "molested" like this?
There is no amount of money for business worth getting on these flights, nor vacations or trips to Grandma's house. If enough people stood up and refused to fly for a week or so it would shut TSA down.
How much more are we going to take? My blood is boiling!
The father who subjected his son to this should be horsewhipped.
Several times.
Likewise with the mother.
To this I will not ever submit, nor will I allow my family to be subjected to it.
Screw your stupid fine and other various threats. I will fly when necessary. Travel is NOT a damned perk granted to us by the state. Neither is dignity and privacy. The are, as are all of our freedoms, OURS, PURCHASED WITH BLOOD, NOT TO BE SURRENDERED. EVER.
This crap makes me sick. I speak of both the arrogance of TSA, and the parents' submission to this. What an unprincipled society we live in. What a courage-less people we have become. It also reinforces my knowledge that bad times are coming if we are to stop being pushed.
I, for one, will not submit to this. My money (and job) will soon be put where my mouth is on this one, as I am looking at several upcoming business trips, and possibly a move with my wife and children.
Should be interesting.
Justin
And still when mob or Monarch lays
Too rude a hand on English ways,
The whisper wakes, the shudder plays,
Across the reeds at Runnymede.
And Thames, that knows the moods of kings,
And crowds and priests and suchlike things,
Rolls deep and dreadful as he brings
Their warning down from Runnymede!
- What Say the Reeds at Runnymede?
- Kipling -
Maybe Mr. Ruled Britannia would enjoy flying in only a hospital gown and handcuffed to his armrests. That would be REALLY safe. Or sedated in a padded box, Cargo class.
I reckon this was the boy's father standing next to him.
Thanks, dad for fighting for our liberty.
Submit, conform, obey! That is what this kid's daddy just taught him.
shaking my head in disgust.
KPN3%
That is so far beyond the pale it is indescribable. The agents did their nefarious work so calmly like it was just another day at the office. And that father apparently calmly standing there and ALLOWING this assault to take place. I would've wound up in jail and one or more of the uniformed thugs in the emergency room.
When small people like Obama, Holder, Napolitano and Pistole cast long shadows the sun is clearly low on the horizon. Can the long night be far behind?
Note to Mr. Darnay: You do realize that these searches do nothing to increase anyone's safety, don't you. They have nothing to do with safety and EVERYTHING to do with showing us who is BOSS!
Bad Cyborg X
Just a matter of time, now.
I think the father ripped the shirt off to avoid having his son further groped. He did not seem to be to happy with this. Understand this was most likely before the widespread knowledge of the rape tactics used. The family had this sprung on them and just wanted to get to their destination. I cant fault the father to much for that. Now that we all know what to expect I would in no way subject my family to the possibility of this molestation. From hence forth we drive.
Grenadier1
As a young boy, my family was stationed in Germany for 8 years. We left right after the Wall fell. I remember driving with my family and touring the different countries around Germany. I remember the passport checkpoints. (As americans on foreign soil, we were obeying the laws of the land, my father would probably be able to better elaborate on that)
I know things are different now with the EU and from what I hear you can pass through the borders without stopping.
However, with all this going on here on OUR soil, I wonder how long it will be before we the people will be forced to stop at every border of these United States to have our vehicles, wives, children, dogs, cats etc et al ad infinitum "checked" in order to "protect" us from "fill in the blank".
As a father (ALL girls) and husband, in good conscience I cannot allow this to happen to my children or my wife. I'll choose liberty and drive.
I will not submit my family to this. We have a wedding to attend next summer in Mexico, and if this shit is not shut down before that time, then I will not allow my kids to fly...and I will be damned if I'm going to drive down there with all of the drug violence. I call smell a huge fight with my wife over this (she's very close to the family of the person getting married), but inconvenience or missing events is, for me, hugely secondary to our liberties and the dignity of my kids (at least - and my wife's and mine count for something, too, its just that the kids come first).
I, like many here, would have been led away from such a scene bloodied and in cuffs, because I will be damned if anyone is going to treat my kids like that. But at least one of them would also have been good and bloodied.
I hope that TSA really sticks it up our countrymen's ass this weekend and over the entire holiday season. Not that I wish this treatment on anyone, but if our liberty and dignity as human beings means ANYTHING, then THIS IS THE TIPPING POINT. I hope and pray for violence by parents and husbands on behalf of their kids and wives. I want 100 or 500 incidents a week, until the apes are afraid to come to work.
While it is easy to condemn the father in this situation (and he deserves it, in spades), the real wrath should be turned on the TSA goons who actually do this crap. What, they can't refuse, especially en mass? So, some may lose a job - if that happened to me, I'd sue the .gov. Further, what is the loss of a job compared to the loss of your dignity, your humanity? I won't buy the "I'm just doing my job" bullshit - because it is just a softer version of "I vuz just followink orrrrderz." In my opinion, these people are WORSE than the SS guards - at least they had the implied or explicit threat of getting shot or shipped off to the Russian Front. What is the loss of a job compared to that. [And before anyone condemns me for the comparison, I am Jewish and have studied the Holocaust extensively - this kind of choice was presented to all, and only a bare few didn't help the machine - but this is a clear morale choice. We should ALL let the TSA agents know this, even if handled nicely and with a smile from them. THEY are enabling the machine].
We will see who blinks, We The People or our would-be masters. THIS particular series of events is the tipping point, it will determine whether we will be a nation of slaves or a nation of free men. Oh, and be prepared for a false flag operation if it looks like we are winning the hearts and minds - some bomber will show up, and most of the sheeple will fall into line under the banner of "it'll make us safer."
Time to get a group of citizens together to go to the airport and follow the TSA goonies as they go on and off shift.
What the citizens do to those TSA goonies I will leave to the imagination. But the goonies better start traveling in pairs and packs if they want to keep their "junk" intact.
B Woodman
III-per
And be assured that if a terrorist sneaks a bomb on a plane by sticking it up his kid's arse (nah, they'd never do such a thing, huh?), we'll get to here the 'patriot' contingent here go all mouth-foamy about how we need to shoot any kid trying to board a plane. You lot are a total fucking joke.
As if any of you losers can afford to fly anyway. Didn't you spend all your money on ammo, John Wayne? Probably never left the hick town you grew up in, and want to set policy for a mode of transportation you've never used and never will. And why should you worry about terrorism, anyway? The planes won't be flying into the pig pen where you live, will they?
One way or another, eventually, the people will have justice.
A just society wants to see that justice meted out in courtrooms rather than on the street.
But when the government refuses to prosecute blatant and in fact admitted improper activity, and instead bails out the firms that engage in this conduct with government money, forcing the robbed to pay for the robbers' sins instead of arresting him or her, the odds go up that the people will decide, individually (or worse, collectively) to get their pound of flesh not in a courtroom through lawsuits and prosecutions but through violence where they deem themselves judge, jury, and in this case, executioner.
Denninger on market-ticker.org
I find the new darling of the media's excuse is "white people don't like this". Now if white people complain about something, it is if no importance, should be ignored, and you should take your anger out on the "white people" who complain. How this is not racism, I do not know, but it is interesting nonetheless.
What makes it even more interesting is that this is solely said by the lilly-whitest ofay people on Earth.
You're right, anonymous. The methods being used currently do not prevent all conceivable terrorist attacks, so let's not do any screening at all until we have fool-proof 100% catches all conceivable methods screening. Right.
With geniuses like you in the movement, the 0.000000003%ers can be expected to lose about 50% of their numbers when they accidentally shoot themselves in the face at the arrival of your much-anticipated SHTF time. Remember, Gomer, pointy end goes AWAY from you.
How often do Israelis have these problems?
Could we take a few pages from their playbook?
"You're right, anonymous. The methods being used currently do not prevent all conceivable terrorist attacks, so let's not do any screening at all until we have fool-proof 100% catches all conceivable methods screening. Right."
So, what then? We just "Do something" in the interim, and at the expense of really great ideas? Your dick must really be hurting, not that I care. Why don't you take it to one of your T-housands S-exually A-ssaulting pals, and have them get a look at it? Keep stepping on it like that and you won't need to worry about not having a pot to piss in.
El Al, ass wipe. Ever heard of them? THEIRS is the perfect model of security for airlines, at least as perfect as humanly attainable. No tit-groping, vagina-squeezing or penis-slapping. Good, honest intelligence at work, producing a startling record of security while leaving dignity intact. And yes, I know how it goes over there.
We're wasting time and money chasing bombs after they get through, when we need to be looking for bombers before they get in. Pretty damned simple, but for the average idiot, profiling isn't the holy word it should be. Or maybe doing something the "Jews" do is sacrosanct? Would it be too much to ask that we imitate a known working system, and stop being the fools we are for reinventing a perfectly functioning wheel?
That's okay, though. No sense in trashing a system that so perfectly abuses our Rights. That would stop the desensitization that is concurrently working with other forces to train the next generation in giving up even more rights than ours....
It seems you'll get your procto exam one way or another, and at taxpayer expense.
and why didn't someone break the officers face??? really????
"No tit-groping, vagina-squeezing or penis-slapping"
Yeah, funny thing, I haven't seen any of this in any of even the most popular TSA videos floating around the far right blogosphere. This is stuff invented in the minds of individuals like yourself. Maybe you hyper-Christian types believe that any kind of touch from another person is by definition sexual, but that's more about something in your head than in the reality of the situation. If you don't like airport security, here's a tip--don't fly, and knock it off with the delusional inventions about what you think is going on. You and the "don't touch my junk" guy are just far righties insecure about your sexuality who are afraid you'll get a boner if the TSA guy lays a finger on you.
""No tit-groping, vagina-squeezing or penis-slapping"
Yeah, funny thing, I haven't seen any of this in any of even the most popular TSA videos floating around the far right blogosphere. This is stuff invented in the minds of individuals like yourself."
It's truly funny what you chose to focus one in your "replies". Here, read these....
"The following are 22 quotes about enhanced pat downs and TSA groping. They are presented without commentary because they speak for themselves. Please share these quotes as widely as possible. If Americans do not wake up now, when will they ever wake up?…."
Go to this link and READ.
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=173145
Nothing invented. And just because YOU haven't come across this info doesn't mean it isn't there. Like I said, GO READ. When you're finished, you can say, "Gee boys and girls, now even I know something about this...."
I understand that we all (mostly) want to "feel" safe onboard planes. I'll take it a step further and say that I want to BE safe. What they are doing is mostly show, very vague in it targeting, and will prove to be ineffectual. Go with the El Al system and I'll both FEEL safe and BE safe.
In the mean time, until such REAL measure are in place, YOU can FEEL all the feeling you want, courtesy of the TSA. I'll leave those things to my wife....
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