Saw an interview on YouTube. An attractive young traveler opted out of the naked scanning, and all the TSA agents go REALLY upset. They manually searched her -- intimately and roughly, causing pain -- then handcuffed her to a chair, tore up her ticket and had police escort her from the airport. I can hear Islamists everywhere laughing, if they laugh at all. If they hate us for our freedom, there's less and less reason to hate us every day. Let's watch and see if the new Republican majority changes anything.
Fortunately I don't have any kin more than 10 hours' travel time away ao I don't HAVE to fly. Damned sure won't be until this nonsense ceases.
If enough people stop flying the airlines will get the message and then the government will - theoretically.
I heard that the presumptive next Speaker of the House intends to fly commercial. I have a sneaking suspicion that he'll get enough of that nonsense and put an end to it.
But Alvie DOES have a point. Reckon what'd happen if people started stripping down in line and stuffing their clothing into a carry-on bag? It's one thing for someone to ogle a person in a back room. It's another entirely for a person to voluntarily strip down. Sure be interesting to watch. Wonder what the TSA weenies'd do THEN?? After all, as the redoubtable Popeye the Sailor Man always put it "I am what I am and that's all what I am." I doubt nudist would have any problem doing it.
Government Mandated and Authorize; Pornography or Molestation - Full Body Scan or Enhanced ‘Pat’-Down Choose one for your Wife, for your daughters and sons, for your baby boy or girl. What kind of Nation have we become?
Meg Mclain - 'I've never had so man grown men with guns shouting at me for no reason.'
"Theoretically, I could just walk through the airport naked and not have to worry with all the searches.
Theoretically, mind you."
I thought of that, but didn't want the hassle of the "women want me, men want to be me" shtick. With my luck, I'd run into the "men want me, women want to be me" bunch, and that could get ugly, so maybe flip-flops and a Speedo would work, or a kilt in the family tartan.
What did the Scotsman say about the man wearing a kilt below his knees?
"He's a liar or a braggart, or he's one hell of a man!"
"Reckon what'd happen if people started stripping down in line and stuffing their clothing into a carry-on bag?"
Some of them might enjoy the show, but I'm betting they'd tell you to put your clothes back on. I don't think many of them would like it a lot. It would seem to make their jobs easier.
"It's one thing for someone to ogle a person in a back room. It's another entirely for a person to voluntarily strip down. Sure be interesting to watch."
Maybe YOU'D be interested, but not me. Think about the folks you see walking around at airports. Not everybody has a body I'd enjoy putting my eyes on; some turn my stomach when they have clothes on.
"Wonder what the TSA weenies'd do THEN?"
Well, the sensible thing to do would be back way the hell off this policy, but we are talking about government employees here.
Backing off is not common behavior among the weenie class. They'd be more likely to make stripping in line part of the NEW policy.
I used to work in a prison. I was twenty minutes on the job when we began doing mass strip searches of work crews coming back to the institution. If you've ever been strip searched, you know the drill.
NOT a pretty sight. I'd hate to see it done en masse at airports across the country. They'd have to pay TSA officers a lot more money, and I doubt they could keep enough people working to man all the gates.
How come I keep envisioning the scene from "This Is Spinal Tap" where Nigel (?) keeps setting off the metal detector. Finally he has to admit he has a cucumber wrapped in aluminum foil stuffed down the front of his pants
Actually, a post from IOTW had the perfect solution all around. A series of insulated booths for the boarders to enter on their way to the plane. No X-rays, no images, no nothing. Just a constantly running variable radio wave emitter which would trigger any explosive device on the person. No 'profiling' no perv gropes, no harmful radiation, and no emptying pockets/ Just a simple ten second walk through, and an occasional "Clean up in Booth Three, please."
Oddly, a friend of mine in Lebanon, a year or so after the muslim barracks bombing, offered a similar idea to locate muslim bomb factories. He told his LT that he had developed a handheld transmitter which a team could carry as they drove through the streets, hitting the transmit button at intervals. If a house, shop or car exploded, they could mark that one off their list and no harm was done. The LT refuse to even send the message up the line. Guess it wasn't diplomatically warm and fuzzy as letting the locals blow your fellow Soldier's or Marines' entrails all over the street. Wtf.
I am fortunate in that, if I MUST fly somewhere, and time is not of the essence, I can go to my local Air Force Base and catch a space-A flight. Military security is MUCH more user friendly than TSA (I think TSA is, by design, a bunch of jerk-offs whose antics tend to discourage us from traveling, so that we are easier to control. Also to get us accustomed to overbearing governmental authority.
By the way, apropos of nothing at all, I would like to recommend a book for your perusal. It's probably out of print, but maybe available used on Amazon or some such place. Called "I, Martha Adams" by Pauline Glen Winslow. It was written when Reagan was in the Whitehouse and can provide some measure of comfort in times like these. I recommend it highly.
And to those who qualify, Happy Veterans' Day today, and to the Marines amongst us (me, included) Happy 235th Birthday yesterday, 10 November. To those who are not veterans, I think, given what's likeliest to come down the pike toward us, we who are may well be welcoming you to our ranks after we win.
Write, call, email your congresscritters, senators (state and federal), governor, etc. ALL OF THEM. Directly, bluntly ask them if they will subject their wives, daughters to this abuse. Demand that they put an end to it. Too many sheep out there who will go along just to get on the plane, but we III need to take a stand. In writing first, but if the polits won't help, then maybe the TSA thugs need a good old-fashioned ass whoopin'. Imagine that - get your fucking paws off me - whack! Put him on the ground. Did you know that it only takes about 4lbs of force to rip an ear off? Yeah, the local flat foot may show up and tase/arrest you, but there are plenty of lawyers to help out and support your self-defense suit against TSA sexual assault and battery. Alternatively, tell everyone you know not to fly - bankrupt the airlines.
I love to fly. Can't wait to see my family and favorite places. But I won't be flying anymore. I wasn't all that happy with the previous arrangements but I now have no reason sufficient to induce me to fly anywhere.
The crappy thing is that all this expensive security we're paying for, means exactly squat. Dedicated people are not swayed by security, they go around it. Especially the people we are supposed to be preventing from committing terrorist acts. Having watched them plow 3 successive vehicles, through a hardened perimeter to achieve access to their intended target, one wonders why this fact isn't recognized by others. Apparently there's money to be made, and some agenda to be achieved, if I'm guessing correctly.
I watched the same terrorist watch list clowns, conduct fund raising operations during the mid 80s, in the Midwest and leave before our people were even aware of their presence. Still gives me that warm fuzzy everybody's safe feeling. I know, I worry too much and it could never happen here.
Cyborg: "I heard that the presumptive next Speaker of the House intends to fly commercial. I have a sneaking suspicion that he'll get enough of that nonsense and put an end to it."
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Theoretically, I could just walk through the airport naked and not have to worry with all the searches.
Theoretically, mind you.
And don't forget National Opt Out Day (November 24th).
http://www.boingboing.net/2010/11/11/we-wont-fly-national.html
Don't fly in you can, or don't allow scan if you cannot help but fly.
Saw an interview on YouTube. An attractive young traveler opted out of the naked scanning, and all the TSA agents go REALLY upset. They manually searched her -- intimately and roughly, causing pain -- then handcuffed her to a chair, tore up her ticket and had police escort her from the airport.
I can hear Islamists everywhere laughing, if they laugh at all. If they hate us for our freedom, there's less and less reason to hate us every day.
Let's watch and see if the new Republican majority changes anything.
Two more worthwhile links:
http://www.optoutday.com/
http://wewontfly.com/
Aiming to monkeywrench Thanksgiving travel.
Fortunately I don't have any kin more than 10 hours' travel time away ao I don't HAVE to fly. Damned sure won't be until this nonsense ceases.
If enough people stop flying the airlines will get the message and then the government will - theoretically.
I heard that the presumptive next Speaker of the House intends to fly commercial. I have a sneaking suspicion that he'll get enough of that nonsense and put an end to it.
But Alvie DOES have a point. Reckon what'd happen if people started stripping down in line and stuffing their clothing into a carry-on bag? It's one thing for someone to ogle a person in a back room. It's another entirely for a person to voluntarily strip down. Sure be interesting to watch. Wonder what the TSA weenies'd do THEN?? After all, as the redoubtable Popeye the Sailor Man always put it "I am what I am and that's all what I am." I doubt nudist would have any problem doing it.
Bad Cyborg X
Alvie, that's an interesting idea, except for the lack of humor that most people have today, I'd consider doing that myself.
But the goons might not appreciate or recognize the assistance you're allowing them in job security by this action, more's the pity. lol
Grog
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Government Mandated and Authorize; Pornography or Molestation - Full Body Scan or Enhanced ‘Pat’-Down
Choose one for your Wife, for your daughters and sons, for your baby boy or girl.
What kind of Nation have we become?
Meg Mclain - 'I've never had so man grown men with guns shouting at me for no reason.'
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"Theoretically, I could just walk through the airport naked and not have to worry with all the searches.
Theoretically, mind you."
I thought of that, but didn't want the hassle of the "women want me, men want to be me" shtick. With my luck, I'd run into the "men want me, women want to be me" bunch, and that could get ugly, so maybe flip-flops and a Speedo would work, or a kilt in the family tartan.
What did the Scotsman say about the man wearing a kilt below his knees?
"He's a liar or a braggart, or he's one hell of a man!"
http://www.optoutday.com
"Reckon what'd happen if people started stripping down in line and stuffing their clothing into a carry-on bag?"
Some of them might enjoy the show, but I'm betting they'd tell you to put your clothes back on. I don't think many of them would like it a lot. It would seem to make their jobs easier.
"It's one thing for someone to ogle a person in a back room. It's another entirely for a person to voluntarily strip down. Sure be interesting to watch."
Maybe YOU'D be interested, but not me. Think about the folks you see walking around at airports. Not everybody has a body I'd enjoy putting my eyes on; some turn my stomach when they have clothes on.
"Wonder what the TSA weenies'd do THEN?"
Well, the sensible thing to do would be back way the hell off this policy, but we are talking about government employees here.
Backing off is not common behavior among the weenie class. They'd be more likely to make stripping in line part of the NEW policy.
I used to work in a prison. I was twenty minutes on the job when we began doing mass strip searches of work crews coming back to the institution. If you've ever been strip searched, you know the drill.
NOT a pretty sight. I'd hate to see it done en masse at airports across the country. They'd have to pay TSA officers a lot more money, and I doubt they could keep enough people working to man all the gates.
The Council on American-Islamic Relations weighs in. Their rights are being violated more than anyone else's, of course. It's downright unIslamic.
http://www.cair.com/ArticleDetails.aspx?ArticleID=26681&&name=n&&currPage=1
How come I keep envisioning the scene from "This Is Spinal Tap" where Nigel (?) keeps setting off the metal detector. Finally he has to admit he has a cucumber wrapped in aluminum foil stuffed down the front of his pants
Actually, a post from IOTW had the perfect solution all around.
A series of insulated booths for the boarders to enter on their way to the plane. No X-rays, no images, no nothing. Just a constantly running variable radio wave emitter which would trigger any explosive device on the person.
No 'profiling' no perv gropes, no harmful radiation, and no emptying pockets/ Just a simple ten second walk through, and an occasional "Clean up in Booth Three, please."
Oddly, a friend of mine in Lebanon, a year or so after the muslim barracks bombing, offered a similar idea to locate muslim bomb factories. He told his LT that he had developed a handheld transmitter which a team could carry as they drove through the streets, hitting the transmit button at intervals. If a house, shop or car exploded, they could mark that one off their list and no harm was done.
The LT refuse to even send the message up the line. Guess it wasn't diplomatically warm and fuzzy as letting the locals blow your fellow Soldier's or Marines' entrails all over the street. Wtf.
http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/e46zj/my_recent_tsa_search
I am fortunate in that, if I MUST fly somewhere, and time is not of the essence, I can go to my local Air Force Base and catch a space-A flight. Military security is MUCH more user friendly than TSA (I think TSA is, by design, a bunch of jerk-offs whose antics tend to discourage us from traveling, so that we are easier to control. Also to get us accustomed to overbearing governmental authority.
By the way, apropos of nothing at all, I would like to recommend a book for your perusal. It's probably out of print, but maybe available used on Amazon or some such place. Called "I, Martha Adams" by Pauline Glen Winslow. It was written when Reagan was in the Whitehouse and can provide some measure of comfort in times like these. I recommend it highly.
And to those who qualify, Happy Veterans' Day today, and to the Marines amongst us (me, included) Happy 235th Birthday yesterday, 10 November. To those who are not veterans, I think, given what's likeliest to come down the pike toward us, we who are may well be welcoming you to our ranks after we win.
Semper Fi,
D.C. Wright
USMC Retired
http://www.crimefilenews.com/2010/11/we-must-stop-tsa-tyranny-now.html
Write, call, email your congresscritters, senators (state and federal), governor, etc. ALL OF THEM. Directly, bluntly ask them if they will subject their wives, daughters to this abuse. Demand that they put an end to it. Too many sheep out there who will go along just to get on the plane, but we III need to take a stand. In writing first, but if the polits won't help, then maybe the TSA thugs need a good old-fashioned ass whoopin'. Imagine that - get your fucking paws off me - whack! Put him on the ground. Did you know that it only takes about 4lbs of force to rip an ear off? Yeah, the local flat foot may show up and tase/arrest you, but there are plenty of lawyers to help out and support your self-defense suit against TSA sexual assault and battery. Alternatively, tell everyone you know not to fly - bankrupt the airlines.
Found a great T-shirt on Deals.woot.com. Only $6.00 + $2.00 shipping.
Here's the URL:
http://www.tanga.com/products/i-got-strip-searched-by-the-tsa-t-shirt--2
Bad Cyborg X
I love to fly. Can't wait to see my family and favorite places. But I won't be flying anymore. I wasn't all that happy with the previous arrangements but I now have no reason sufficient to induce me to fly anywhere.
The crappy thing is that all this expensive security we're paying for, means exactly squat. Dedicated people are not swayed by security, they go around it. Especially the people we are supposed to be preventing from committing terrorist acts. Having watched them plow 3 successive vehicles, through a hardened perimeter to achieve access to their intended target, one wonders why this fact isn't recognized by others. Apparently there's money to be made, and some agenda to be achieved, if I'm guessing correctly.
I watched the same terrorist watch list clowns, conduct fund raising operations during the mid 80s, in the Midwest and leave before our people were even aware of their presence. Still gives me that warm fuzzy everybody's safe feeling. I know, I worry too much and it could never happen here.
Cyborg: "I heard that the presumptive next Speaker of the House intends to fly commercial. I have a sneaking suspicion that he'll get enough of that nonsense and put an end to it."
Won't happen.
Jason Black.
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