Friday, November 26, 2010

The Real Threat to America

Here.

"I am sure of this: The unfettered growth of the Department of Homeland Security and the T.S.A. represent a greater long-term threat to the prosperity, character and well-being of the United States than a few madmen in the valleys of Waziristan or the voids of Yemen."

20 comments:

Defender said...

The New York Times condemns the security state and praises the Fourth Amendment, even as it encourages more drastic gun control the enforcement of which by definition must violate the Fourth Amendment.
Well.
Orwell called it "doublethink," the ability to hold opposing concepts in mind simultaneously and believe both of them. It was vital for the success of Big Brother.
That is the real threat. Rights for me but not for thee.

Anonymous said...

Looking at the comments makes you realize the people of Amerika want this invasion of privacy. It keeps us SAFE.
To pick up a gun and defend yourself or your family is now evil, only a kook nutcase would think of something so stupid when we have the heroes of the TSA and police who put their lives on the line every minute of every day for our safety.
Yup, we're fukd.

Semper Fi,0321

Anonymous said...

Ah, good, there's a lunatic with access to the NYTimes opinion page too.

Right, getting patted down is worse than a terrorist attack. Let's be sure to check in with Mr. Cohen to see how that opinion stands up the next time he's in a tall building that a jet plane has just flown into, or on a plane that has just exploded over the Atlantic Ocean.

Unbelievably stupid. I see why you like it.

Dedicated_Dad said...

I've been saying it since all this terrorist idiocy started: I'm FAR more worried about the morons in Sodom-on-the-Potomac than I ever COULD be about some death-cultists living in caves in ass-crackistan.

DD

ejr914 said...

No doubt about it, our federal government is the largest terror organization in the world. They are more than just a threat to Americans, they are a threat to everyone in the world.

rexxhead said...

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

TJP said...

The real threat certainly wasn't this security theater:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101128/ap_on_re_us/us_portland_car_bomb_plot

"Mohamed Osman Mohamud, 19, was arrested Friday in downtown Portland after using a cell phone to try to detonate what he thought were explosives in a van, prosecutors said. It turned out to be a dummy bomb put together by FBI agents..."

Mel Torme said...

"Let's be sure to check in with Mr. Cohen to see how that opinion stands up the next time he's in a tall building that a jet plane has just flown into, or on a plane that has just exploded over the Atlantic Ocean."

Well, Anonymous, I can imagine what what you might be thinking in that situation: "Damn, these guys are named Mohammed, too, that is freaky, or maybe there really is a pattern ... how could they have taken over this plane with improvised weapons again? I thought the TSA was there to save me ... they groped my cock and all (felt pretty good, too), they took my bottled Evian water ... Damn! I wish there really was just one armed passenger on here - it'd have been easy to stop these guys with just one handgun... but, but.... oh, the TSA would have taken that... oh yeah .... but, I must support gun control as a good compassionate liberal.., but ...

"I don't wanna' die! But, as a good liberal, I can't condone singling out passengers by law enforcement... profiling... it's, like, racist or something... but, I knew these 10 sweaty, swarthy guys traveling together on this flight were up to something ..., but, but, I am not a racist ... I am a good... oh, crap, I didn't know a Boeing 767 could do a snap roll.... oh shit..,"

Poor anonymous... I hope you dream this one night and wake up an honest man (at least honest to yourself - that's how you start out being honest).

You're just a mindless sheep ... but, still, sheep can dream, can't they?

Mel Torme said...

"No doubt about it, our federal government is the largest terror organization in the world. They are more than just a threat to Americans, they are a threat to everyone in the world."

I agree with that, too ejr914 (and with Dedicated_Dad). I think we have a problem with Moslem terrorists, but the solutions are fairly simple. However, were our Fed Gov't to implement these solutions (guarding the southern border, deporting people on expired visas, letting airlines run their own security without disarming pax, etc.) they wouldn't be able to gain the control that they have since 9/11/01.

Right now, for some reason, Motherland Security is in charge of shutting down websites to "prevent copyright infringement". It's getting out of hand fast.

Anonymous said...

Anon@2:45,
obviously '1984' was a little hard to understand for you. You still think we're at war with Eastasia because Big Brother said so. Big Brother also said a Somali tried to blow up a group in Portland yesterday. Nothing strange about that remark to you? Or ALL the other suspected bombers that Big Brother catches just BEFORE they blow themselves up with a faulty bomb. Nothing strange about the fact that for some reason once they are on American soil, they all lose the ability to make a real bomb that works.( I know, our cops are really THAT good) You know, like the ones that blow up overseas. Thanks to people like you, Big Brother can tell us any amount of mindless BS and the whole nation suffers under martial law so you can feel safe from lies. Obviously, you must like the groin checks just a little too much.

0321

Anonymous said...

Mel Torme, you should take a page out of the book of your namesake and drop dead. Ten years ago. Could have saved everybody that's had to deal with you for the past decade soiled hands.

Anonymous said...

"our federal government is the largest terror organization in the world"

If you really believe that, could you please get on the next boat out of here? Just. Get. Out. Because we're not changing things to fit your hare-brained sense of 'what is to be done.'

So just LEAVE already.

Mel Torme said...

"Mel Torme, you should take a page out of the book of your namesake and drop dead. Ten years ago. Could have saved everybody that's had to deal with you for the past decade soiled hands."

The Velvet Fog is still alive and kicking. I guess the truth has got you in a rage, there, anonymous. Calm down, and learn more about the real world before you post. You don't have to remain a sheep for the rest of your life. There is a way out, but it involves something called "the truth"

M said...

"If you really believe that, could you please get on the next boat out of here? Just. Get. Out. Because we're not changing things to fit your hare-brained sense of 'what is to be done.' "

Dude, most of us want to change things BACK; don't you get that? We'd like to change the power of the federal gov't back as it is specified in the US Constitution.

Why in the world should we get out? We're not the ones who fucked it up to begin with. Secondly, we don't have a free country (such as America once was - go back 30 - 70 years) in the world to go to. Meanwhile, you statists have plenty of other countries you could move to that have your idea of an "ideal government". I guess the reality of those places is what's keeping you from Getting. The. Fuck. Out.

Anonymous said...

Whomever this "anon" is, he's so mentally deranged that he's not even worth debating with. Waste of time TROLL (fed?).

0321

Anonymous said...

To Mel Torme, RE: Anon 2:45 (etc) -
"You're just a mindless sheep ... but, still, sheep can dream, can't they?"

Since I always love a good pun and a bad joke -
"Do Robots Dream of Electric Sheep?"
(Original book title from which the movie Bladerunner was made)

B Woodman
III-per

Defender said...

WikiLeaks reports on Twitter that it is experiencing massive "denial of service" as it is about to publish U.S. government documents that could prove embarrassing...

EJR914 said...

"If you really believe that, could you please get on the next boat out of here? Just. Get. Out. Because we're not changing things to fit your hare-brained sense of 'what is to be done.'

So just LEAVE already.

November 27, 2010 9:34 PM"

Anon, why don't you get out! What you don't understand is that the Federal government hi-jacked our state governments during Reconstruction and added the 14th amendment. The Constitutionality of Reconstruction was never challenged by our Supreme Court because Congress outlawed it from ruling on it! You need to wake up. Our government is not our own anymore. I want the government that our forefathers wanted us to have! Not the collectivist, statist, Socialist Police State that sheep like you want. I want a restoration of our country, and sheep like you are stopping our country from doing that, so you get the heck out! Sheep like you are ruining this once great country! Wake the heck up and open your eyes. Our government is not by the people anymore. Its corrupt, it murders innocent people, it wants to control everything that we have and everything that we do, and we have people in our government trying to bring down our economy and how rich we are as a country. Please educate yourself before you come here and tell me to get out.

My family has been here before the Revolutionary War, and I will do everything in my power to return this country to its founding principles. You get out you collectivist sheep!

CowboyDan said...

"WikiLeaks reports on Twitter that it is experiencing massive "denial of service" as it is about to publish U.S. government documents that could prove embarrassing..."

Too bad. Must be a Chinese cyber attack like hit Google last year.

CowboyDan said...

They won't keep all possible weapons off the airplanes. They can't, and they won't. They can't guard against weapons of opportunity.

I have a ZEBRA F-301 pen in my pocket. It's tapered to a point and made of stainless steel. It won't easily be bent. It pokes holes in cardboard boxes quite well.

I have credit cards in my pocket. At least one of them has enough of an edge on it that I can cut raw beef. It took a minute or less of rubbing it on the sidewalk to put that edge on.

I learned that a while back from a retired Mossad agent. He told me, right after the 9/11 attacks, that he didn't need a knife; he could cut a man's throat with a credit card.

I didn't believe it was possible, but I proved my best thinking wrong. Like I said, they can't, and they won't.