Sunday, January 6, 2013

The bastards are feeling VERY froggy.

Pack of collectivist traitors to the Founders' Republic. Photo Credit: Chip Somodevilla/GETTY IMAGES - Vice President Biden, center, leads the first meeting of the working group on gun violence on Dec. 20. From left, he’s joined by Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr., National Association of Police Organizations President Thomas Nee, Philadelphia Police Commissioner Charles Ramsey, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and other officials.
White House weighs broad gun-control agenda in wake of Newtown shootings.
The White House is weighing a far broader and more comprehensive approach to curbing the nation’s gun violence than simply reinstating an expired ban on assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition, according to multiple people involved in the administration’s discussions.
A working group led by Vice President Biden is seriously considering measures backed by key law enforcement leaders that would require universal background checks for firearm buyers, track the movement and sale of weapons through a national database, strengthen mental health checks, and stiffen penalties for carrying guns near schools or giving them to minors, the sources said.
To sell such changes, the White House is developing strategies to work around the National Rifle Association that one source said could include rallying support from Wal-Mart and other gun retailers for measures that would benefit their businesses. White House aides have also been in regular contact with advisers to New York Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg (I), an outspoken gun-control advocate who could emerge as a powerful surrogate for the Obama administration’s agenda.
The Biden group, formed last month after the massacre at a Newtown, Conn., elementary school that killed 20 children and six adults, plans to submit a package of recommendations to President Obama this month. Once Obama’s proposals are set, he plans to lead a public-relations offensive to generate popular support.
“They are very clearly committed to looking at this issue comprehensively,” said Dan Gross, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, who has been involved in the discussions. The proposals under consideration, he added, are “a deeper exploration than just the assault-weapons ban.”
The gun-control push is just one part of an ambitious political agenda that Obama has pledged to pursue after his decisive reelection victory in November, including comprehensive immigration reform, climate-change legislation and long-term deficit reduction. Obama also faces a reshuffling of his Cabinet, and a looming debate over the nation’s debt ceiling that will compete for his time and attention in the coming months.
Seeking expansive mandate
In addition to potential legislative proposals, Biden’s group has expanded its focus to include measures that would not need congressional approval and could be quickly implemented by executive action, according to interest-group leaders who have discussed options with Biden and key Cabinet secretaries. Possibilities include changes to federal mental-health programs and modernization of gun-tracking efforts by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.
“Simply coming up with one or two aspects of it really falls short of the magnitude of the gun issue in the country,” said Chuck Wexler, executive director of the Police Executive Research Forum.
Wexler was among a dozen law enforcement leaders who met with Biden and other administration leaders in the aftermath of the Dec. 14 massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown. The Dec. 20 summit, which stretched an hour beyond an allotted one hour, included Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr., Education Secretary Arne Duncan, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius.
Biden “wanted to talk to us about the assault-weapons ban, automatic weapons, high-capacity magazines,” said Hennepin County (Minn.) Sheriff Richard Stanek, president of the Major County Sheriffs’ Association.
The vice president said the White House group would consider a variety of proposals — from requiring background checks for all gun buyers to creating a new database that would allow the ATF to track all gun sales, according to participants.
Stanek said the meeting also included significant discussion of mental-health issues, violence in video games and movies, and the poor quality of information contained in databases used to conduct criminal background checks before issuing gun permits.
Some of the options the administration is considering may not ultimately be included in Obama’s package. A White House spokesman said Biden’s group was in the midst of its review and has made no decisions on its final recommendations.
The White House is also developing strategies to navigate the rocky and emotionally fraught terrain of gun politics once final policy decisions are made. The administration is quietly talking with a diverse array of interest groups, including religious leaders, mental-health professionals and hunters, to build as broad a coalition as possible, those involved in the discussions said.
The president is expected to face fierce opposition from the NRA and its allies in Congress, including most Republicans and some Democrats.
But Biden signaled to those involved in the policy discussions that the White House is not afraid of taking on the NRA, the nation’s largest gun rights group. At the Dec. 20 meeting, according to Stanek, when one law enforcement leader suggested focusing on only the most popular proposals, Biden responded: “Look, what I’m asking you for is your candid opinion and ideas about extreme gun violence. Leave the politics to the president. That’s our job with Congress.”
NRA officials declined a request for comment. . . .
One potential strategy would be to win support for specific measures from interest groups that are normally aligned with the NRA, according to one person who works closely with the administration on gun-related issues and who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the issue’s sensitivity.
For instance, this person suggested, Wal-Mart and other major gun retailers may have an incentive to support closing a loophole that allows people to bypass background checks if they purchase firearms at gun shows or through other types of private sales. That could result in more people buying guns in retail stores.
Timing is imperative
Obama’s advisers have calculated that the longer they wait, the more distance there is from the Newtown massacre and the greater the risk that the bipartisan political will to tackle gun violence will dissipate.
“This is not something that I will be putting off,” Obama said on NBC’s “Meet the Press” in an interview broadcast last Sunday.
At the White House meeting, Stanek said, “the vice president indicated that there was a very short timeline for him to get back to the president with his recommendations because the American public has a short memory.”
Already, three weeks after the Newtown shooting, gun-control advocates are growing impatient with a legislative process that is just beginning.
“As we get involved in these ad nauseam debates over the Second Amendment, our children are still at risk,” said Jon Adler, national president of the Federal Law Enforcement Officers Association. “Debating is not the action verb we need to protect our children.”
With the start of the 113th Congress last week, several lawmakers filed bills to address gun violence. Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), who co-wrote a 1994 assault-weapons ban that expired in 2004, plans to introduce legislation this month that would ban the sale or manufacture of about 120 firearms, including semiautomatic rifles and military-style handguns, as well as ammunition magazines that can hold more than 10 rounds. . .
Adler, who has submitted recommendations to Biden’s group, said he has told administration officials that they need to pursue multiple measures to increase their chances of success.
“We can’t put all our protection-effort eggs in one basket with one piece of legislation,” he said. “We’ve got to do more than that.”
Well, now these bastards are feeling very froggy, aren't they?
Frog legs with fries. Yum.


CJ said...

The participants appear to be a one-sided crowd...and to think that they wanted to have an open and honest discussion with all sides represented. Was there a single pro-gun rights person at the table?

Dr.D said...

I say if Wal Mart and other retailers get on board we make it clear to them ( speek to the store manager) that if they do this we never spend another dime with them on ANYTHING! vote with your $$$$
make it hurt.,...

Anonymous said...

Since everyone loves a sound bite let us give those evil gun grabbers one promise:


Anonymous said...

"We have given you a Republic. It remains to be seen if you will be able to retain it."

Time is drawing nigh.

Anonymous said...

I will not comply.I will not participate.I will wait. And pray. I will pray that I am not yet on the 'kill list'. Then I will wait for the government sanctioned murders to begin. Then I will pray for the counting coup to begin on the 'One Hundred Heads'. And if I lose my life in resistance, I wil pray that it was not wasted.

Anonymous said...

"For instance, this person suggested, Wal-Mart and other major gun retailers may have an incentive to support closing a loophole that allows people to bypass background checks if they purchase firearms at gun shows or through other types of private sales."

Not if they seriously consider what happened to Smith & Wesson after they climbed in bed with the Clinton Administration.

Anonymous said...

I'd submit it's time to organize gun owners at the national level by starting a Political party..period. If these bastards want to see what "power" we really have.

How bout the Party of Unintended Consequences? :)

Anonymous said...

Yes, they are indeed:

- BoarHawg

Anonymous said...

was there one gun-owning true Patriot at the table

Of course not. Because if there was, there rest of the communist Democrat filth would be long dead.

Anonymous said...

I'd submit it's time to organize gun owners at the national level by starting a Political party..period. If these bastards want to see what "power" we really have.
How bout the Party of Unintended Consequences? :)

Fuck Lapierre. We need a Gerry Adams who'll say "You'll deal with me or you'll deal with the crazy bastards that I will no longer be able to hold back if you don't deal with me"

Anonymous said...

If the push starts to lose momentum I bet they get lucky and there is another slaughter just when they need it

Semper Fi, 0321 said...

Hopefully this will be a wake up call to NRA members.
They don't work for you, period. They are a special interest group, bent on removing as much money from your wallet as they can get. Just think of them as PETA or the Sierra Club, with a slick gun magazine they sell you every month. They are the enemy, not your friend.

Happy D said...

It would be massively unwise for Wal Mart to sign on to this plan.
Window war type plans being as adaptive as they are. Stink bombs ruined stock and such.