The Wright Flyer wasn't a very good aircraft either. But then, it didn't need to be. Once the concept of a heavier-than-air aircraft was proven to work, people world wide were coming up with improvements.
The current $20k printers just now coming into the reach of hobbyists can only print in plastics, but the $100k units being used in industry can print in metals and prices on that technology will surely come down into the hobbyists reach in the future. Work is already being done on another generation of 3D printers that will lay down materials at a molecular level.
So the question becomes not if someone will eventually be able to print that supressed Sten in their basement, but how soon it will occur.
I was fortunate enough to find the three volumes of "The History of the United States Army in World War Two" that covered the Ordinance branch. They provided a wealth of information to fill in the cracks of what I learned from General Hatcher's "Notebook". I was surprised to learn that late model Sten guns were built in machine shops the size of two-car garages and cost the government $16. Shortly after that I was travelling thru Logan Airport in Boston and happened across a trooper carrying one of their newly purchased $2500 submachine guns. I laughed out loud...
I don't know why this short rifle+muffler craze has caught on,other than pokeing "the man" in the eye. As combat wepons they are ALLMOST useless. Low MV, small bullet, short range. The ONLY thing they ARE good for is; murder in an elevator. Yeh i hear the fanboys screamin' BUT; What use(the truth now) is there for a wepon with a 600 RPM rate of fire, a muffler, that you can make "off the books", and burn in a fire when you'r done? This DON'T make us look like the good guys.---Ray
I think that the information how to make your own (fill in the blank) should be readily available to every Patriot who has the need or want to be able to make whatever is necessary. This should cover the entire spectrum from home-made doo-dads all the way to highly machined devices. I think just about everyone has access to a hacksaw and fewer have access to a metal-working lathe, but one can always be found somewhere. When push comes to shove, an old bottle and some gasoline can always be found somewhere but silencers are a bit harder to make. Just my 2 cents worth.
You can still buy Sten Parts Kits cheap. You can still buy the receivers that have not been cut out. You can still buy ammo, and mags for them. I suggest you buy them while you can. I also suggest you buy reloading equipment, and powder, brass, primers, and projectiles while you still can.
Those WWII Sten guns were manufactured in machine shops the size of a two-car garage and sold to the Gov for $16. I recently walked by a Mass Trooper in Logan Airport carrying a new submachine gun that cost the State $2500; I laughed at him...
"This DON'T make us look like the good guys.---Ray "
Perhaps you might want to reassess who you think the bad guys are here? They picked this fight, deliberately and are doing everything they can to harm the country and destroy the constitution and bill of rights. They have committed theft, treason and murder, so exactly why are you suggesting that we don't look good compared to that?
As for the original cost of production for the Sten Mark II, it was $7.90 so the Sten Mark IIS would have been just over eight dollars.
When the 'civil' war comes, any and all weapons will be of use, from the slingshot and homemade knife to the 'assault' rifle and larger. Do not underestimate the patriot/resistance fighter with his meager weapons.- Stumpy Wheeler
I'm not really concerned with the anti's perception of me. If they had their way, we all would only have single shot .22s and would still be trying to get those away from us believing that we were they bad guys because we had them.
The .45 ACP is a subsonic round while the 9mm Parabellum is supersonic. The Welrod pistol from WWII was extremely quiet but was single shot. The action of a semi-auto or a full-auto is not exactly quiet. I think the purchases of the 4 or 5 cell Mag Light flashlights might take a jump in the near future and at my neighborhood Lowes store, my VA card gets me 10% off. That is the start of the parts list.
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The Wright Flyer wasn't a very good aircraft either. But then, it didn't need to be. Once the concept of a heavier-than-air aircraft was proven to work, people world wide were coming up with improvements.
The current $20k printers just now coming into the reach of hobbyists can only print in plastics, but the $100k units being used in industry can print in metals and prices on that technology will surely come down into the hobbyists reach in the future. Work is already being done on another generation of 3D printers that will lay down materials at a molecular level.
So the question becomes not if someone will eventually be able to print that supressed Sten in their basement, but how soon it will occur.
I was fortunate enough to find the three volumes of "The History of the United States Army in World War Two" that covered the Ordinance branch. They provided a wealth of information to fill in the cracks of what I learned from General Hatcher's "Notebook". I was surprised to learn that late model Sten guns were built in machine shops the size of two-car garages and cost the government $16. Shortly after that I was travelling thru Logan Airport in Boston and happened across a trooper carrying one of their newly purchased $2500 submachine guns. I laughed out loud...
I don't know why this short rifle+muffler craze has caught on,other than pokeing "the man" in the eye. As combat wepons they are ALLMOST useless. Low MV, small bullet, short range. The ONLY thing they ARE good for is; murder in an elevator. Yeh i hear the fanboys screamin' BUT; What use(the truth now) is there for a wepon with a 600 RPM rate of fire, a muffler, that you can make "off the books", and burn in a fire when you'r done? This DON'T make us look like the good guys.---Ray
I think that the information how to make your own (fill in the blank) should be readily available to every Patriot who has the need or want to be able to make whatever is necessary. This should cover the entire spectrum from home-made doo-dads all the way to highly machined devices. I think just about everyone has access to a hacksaw and fewer have access to a metal-working lathe, but one can always be found somewhere. When push comes to shove, an old bottle and some gasoline can always be found somewhere but silencers are a bit harder to make. Just my 2 cents worth.
You can still buy Sten Parts Kits cheap. You can still buy the receivers that have not been cut out. You can still buy ammo, and mags for them.
I suggest you buy them while you can.
I also suggest you buy reloading equipment, and powder, brass, primers, and projectiles while you still can.
Those WWII Sten guns were manufactured in machine shops the size of a two-car garage and sold to the Gov for $16. I recently walked by a Mass Trooper in Logan Airport carrying a new submachine gun that cost the State $2500; I laughed at him...
"This DON'T make us look like the good guys.---Ray "
Perhaps you might want to reassess who you think the bad guys are here? They picked this fight, deliberately and are doing everything they can to harm the country and destroy the constitution and bill of rights. They have committed theft, treason and murder, so exactly why are you suggesting that we don't look good compared to that?
As for the original cost of production for the Sten Mark II, it was $7.90 so the Sten Mark IIS would have been just over eight dollars.
When the 'civil' war comes, any and all weapons will be of use, from the slingshot and homemade knife to the 'assault' rifle and larger. Do not underestimate the patriot/resistance fighter with his meager weapons.- Stumpy Wheeler
I'm not really concerned with the anti's perception of me. If they had their way, we all would only have single shot .22s and would still be trying to get those away from us believing that we were they bad guys because we had them.
The .45 ACP is a subsonic round while the 9mm Parabellum is supersonic. The Welrod pistol from WWII was extremely quiet but was single shot. The action of a semi-auto or a full-auto is not exactly quiet. I think the purchases of the 4 or 5 cell Mag Light flashlights might take a jump in the near future and at my neighborhood Lowes store, my VA card gets me 10% off. That is the start of the parts list.
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