Wednesday, February 3, 2010

"Ain't gonna be NEARLY enough": The IRS is buying itself some new toys.

A Coastie with a Remington 870 SBS. (Which, when you think of it. what sort of sense does THAT make? Are they still fond of blunderbusses for "repelling boarders?")


So, it seems the Internal Revenue Service is buying itself some new toys -- short-barreled shotguns for home-invasion work, just like the free-lance criminals use. Of course, independent felons not acting under color of law (and there's something refreshing about their honesty compared to the IRS) do not have the taxpayers to fund their logistics -- they just saw the barrels off some garden-variety stolen twelve-gauge, but then, hey, nothing but the best for the King's revenue agents.

Here's the money paragraph:

The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) intends to purchase sixty Remington Model 870 Police RAMAC #24587 12 gauge pump-action shotguns for the Criminal Investigation Division. The Remington parkerized shotguns, with fourteen inch barrel, modified choke, Wilson Combat Ghost Ring rear sight and XS4 Contour Bead front sight, Knoxx Reduced Recoil Adjustable Stock, and Speedfeed ribbed black forend, are designated as the only shotguns authorized for IRS duty based on compatibility with IRS existing shotgun inventory, certified armorer and combat training and protocol, maintenance, and parts.

Submit quotes including 11% Firearms and Ammunition Excise Tax (FAET) and shipping to Washington DC.

I shared this with Robert "Mad Bob" REDACTED, commanding officer of the Dogtown Rangers. His reaction?

"Only sixty?" he asked in wonderment. "Ain't gonna be enough. Ain't gonna be NEARLY enough, the dumb sonsabitches."


MikeH. said...

"Dumb sonsabitches" is right. They'll never get in close enough against a pissed off tax payer with a .308!!!

Anonymous said...

Yep and they are setting the stage for associating anybody who resist the IRS with terrorists...``homegrown terrorists allied with al-CIAda will strike within 3 to 6 months``...

Here it comes, Obama's false-flag. Then it will be all out war against the second amendment and patriot groups.

pdxr13 said...

Coasties use 12ga to throw ropes (and maybe some deck defense against Somali pirate boarders). M-14's and .50BMG are the tools with some reach and punch.

How come the USCG doesn't have the stainless steel models?

The IRS gets shotguns! 4'-10" 85 pound IRS girl-agents should dictate the correct ammunition for all users, so target loads of non-toxic steel #16 shot should be the standard. Not too much recoil, and they almost can't miss.

3"magnum loads of 000 or 1oz slugs are obviously sexist loads designed to intimidate Agents of smaller stature or limited aiming ability, and should be restricted to SWAT and other "special" teams.

I'm all in favor of less effective weapons for revenue agents, with progression to unarmed tax agents who are only allowed a bottle of pepper spray like a mailman. If there is an actual problem allegedly requiring LE force, call the Sheriff.


Tvarisch said...

And they'll probably load them with buckshot, which won't penetrate a good level III vest or Kevlar helmet, so one defender with an AK and some decent body armor could easily make mincemeat out of an entry team.

Taylor H said...

This doesn't surprise me. Several banks bought a few pistols to equip their employees for protection. I can only wonder WHY they would do this after the oh-so-spot-on prediction of a terrorist attack in 3-6 months.

Does anyone here think that the IRS is gearing up for a big operation? My civilian mind doesn't think quite like the veterans on this blog.

Response kindly requested.

Pat H said...

It won't be enough. My "self defense" tool loaded with Federal Cartridge Corporation's 12 gauge Premium slug shells firing a Barnes tipped copper alloy (i.e. almost brass) 3.4 ounce slug at 1900 feet per second muzzle velocity, producing over 2600 foot pounds kinetic energy will stop them. Tis round will penetrate any Level IIIA vest, probably any Level III and even if the home invader is wearing a Level IV vest, the one and a quarter tons of energy will produce flail chest injuries without penetrating.
Federal Data.

They have got to ask themselves, "do I want to do this"? Well, do you punk?
They will face a Defense of Home.

Phelps said...

... or a defender with a IIIa vest and an SKS, like I have in my closet.

Am I the only one who thinks that the high-end sights on those monsters are a complete waste of taxpayer money? Even if you accept that there is some valid purpose for the shotgun itself?

Caleb said...

I can speak to the use of 870s in the Coast Guard, having carried one as a BTO during my career. The 870 (and Mossberg 500) is in my opinion the absolute best gun for conducting high risk boardings on suspect vessels. I would climb over a pile of M4s to get to an 870 if I knew I was going to be doing any kind of combat/LE boarding.

Whacking a couple of inches off the barrel to make it handier for CQB just makes good sense.

Anonymous said...

The best defense is to not live where you're registered to any gov/corp database.

These... people... like to sneak up on you at 3 in the morning when you're dead asleep. These are tricked out sawed off shottys for a government licensed home invasion crew. No they'll never realize the full potential of the sights-which actually make sense for using slugs-since they're likely gun illiterate.

If you cant move, best have like-minded neighbors who work different shifts so someone's always up at 3 in the morning. Your choice of what to do from there.

W W Woodward said...

Haven't the ignorant SOBs figured out yet that collecting what they consider a debt with a fire arm is aggravated Robbery????

Most state laws allow deadly force to be employed against such goons.


Anonymous said...

I don't know if the 12GA is used for line throwing or not, but when I carried one of them the main purpose was for boardings, as already stated.

And to compare the IRS to the USCG seems disingenious to begin with.

Anonymous said...

Hope they also get good bids on a shitload of body bags.
If agent Rambo wannabes start kicking in doors, do they foolishly imagine that only the actual door-kickers will be held accountable? Or do they wisely grasp that one such act will effective paint permanent targets on everyone in their agencies, 24 / 7 and coast to coast?
Which one of Mike's friends was it who said words to the effect that in a SHTF scenario he wouldn't have to travel far to find his targets since they are all around?


straightarrow said...

I rather like the idea. My driveway is 520' long. They can't shoot me from that distance with that gun. But I can certainly reach out that far.

kenlowder said...

We never used a shotgun for a line throwing gun. We used an old M1 And later the M16 with blanks and a line throwing attachment. The shotgun was used for boardings only. Nothing gets the attention of the no speak english crew like the racking in of a 12 ga round.

Anonymous said...

IRS pussies. My combat shotgun will put out three rounds for their every rack. And who cares about body armor? Just go for the face or the knee's.

45superman said...

This is old news (aside from the lawsuit), but I guess it shows what they need those shottie guns for: paramilitary style raids on mothers and their ten-year-old daughters.

The lawsuit filed by James Simon in U.S. District Court in Fort Wayne says Denise Simon and her 10-year-old daughter were the only ones home when about 10 armed IRS agents raided their residence on Nov. 6, 2007.

Tax collecting is best done when you outnumber the women and children 5 to 1, apparently.