Officer Darren Wilson Suffered “Orbital Blowout Fracture to Eye Socket” During Mike Brown Attack
See also: Liberal outlets creating lynch mob mentality in Ferguson
Wednesday, August 20, 2014
No doubt he suffered this self-inflicted wound while he was scrambling out of the car to shoot the "gentle giant" Michael Brown in the back while his hands were in the air.
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The circumstances surrounding Michael Brown's death are irrelevant. The police actions being brought to bear is all the issue. Rioting (some say some extent of it is staged... I guess false flag rioting) wasn't being stopped. When the police state was all set up, they were letting the rioting happening while they were attacking journalists and peaceful demonstrators.
Anyone on here who starts in about the idiociy of the inner city blacks is playing right into the elites hands. Falling for divide and conquer. Its like being mad that all the cats outside are fighting when the cat lady let them all out.
I am not trying to say that black people are comparable to cats. Only trying to use an analogy, maybe a poor one, that our real fight is and always should be and always will be with the elite bastards at the top. The decision makers and the decision takers. Never, ever, ever forget that. Back during "more racist" times, black families were starting to do better than white families. Back before welfare, black people were gaining from poverty to the middle class at a faster rate than poor whites. Ever since the war on poverty was declared (one of those wars that will never be won), blacks have stayed in poverty.
Anyone not leaving vicious comments and remaks against the bastards on the top, against the decision makers and decision takers are playing the part of being pawns on their chess board. We have to refuse to play their game. We have to find a way off the chess board.
Just this AM the Gov of Mo. threw the cop under the bus. Are all you cops paying attention?
It still keeps coming back to the fact that the killer cop had ZERO justification for initiating the confrontation. Once you start it, expect to sustain damage. I want to see people fighting back every time some power-crazed enforcer stops someone he has no right to stop.
If Brown did rob the store before the confrontation began, the cop didn't know about it. He was wrong to approach Brown.
Yes- exactly Anonymous #1. It doesn't matter what happened to the colored goon or the cop.
The point is the cops reacted as a military force and that is in store for all of us.
Well...if you'd just shot a gentle giant in the back while he was running away with his hands in the air begging for mercy....you'd punch yourself out too. Get real people.
I post as T Paine...but this time the compupu won't let me log in. Figures.
So, Kent I guess in your mind, the cop should have ignored two people walking in the middle of traffic lanes?
Not to rain on anyone's parade or anything, but Officer Wilson's injuries should be duly noted and considered. I doubt they were 'self-inflicted'.
BREAKING REPORT: Officer Darren Wilson Suffered “Orbital Blowout Fracture to Eye Socket” During Mike Brown Attack
Posted by Jim Hoft on Tuesday, August 19, 2014, 10:00 AM
The Gateway Pundit can now confirm from two local St. Louis sources that police Officer Darren Wilson suffered facial fractures during his confrontation with deceased 18 year-old Michael Brown. Officer Wilson clearly feared for his life during the incident that led to the shooting death of Brown. This was after Michael Brown and his accomplice Dorian Johnson robbed a local Ferguson convenience store.
Michael Brown robbed a Ferguson convenience store the morning of his death.
Local St. Louis sources said Wilson suffered an “orbital blowout fracture to the eye socket.” This comes from a source within the Prosecuting Attorney’s office and confirmed by the St. Louis County Police.
A blowout fracture is a fracture of one or more of the bones surrounding the eye and is commonly referred to as an orbital floor fracture. (AAPOS)
This comes after St. Louis Post-Dispatch reporter tweeted out last night that a dozen local witnesses confirmed Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson’s version of the Brown shooting story.
Also interesting is that 'Big Mike's' 2 year old lying sack of shit friend, Dorian Johnson, changed his story about there being a struggle over Wilson's gun before he got out of his car.
As a former Deputy Sheriff and cop for 13 years, maybe I look at things a little different than some of the 'civilian' populace out there, that all seem to have their own opinions about what happened and what Officer Wilson 'should' have done. So here
goes. Like it or lump it, I really don't give a shit how you take it, but think about it. And think about what you would have done in Wilson's shoes with this 292 pound, 6'4" nigger, that had already assaulted you, charging you again.
For clarification, when I was growing up, there were colored people and Negroes. Later on came the terms 'blacks', African-Americans, hood rats, ghetto rats
and niggers. There are big differences between some of them.
Some deserve respect because they have worked for it and earned it. And others don't. The ones that don't deserve any respect are even referred to as 'niggers' by those that are decent people. So when I refer to Michael Brown as 'a nigger', it's because he was a fat thug.
Consider this. All the shit about Officer Wilson shooting Brown 6 times, and it being 'excessive force', 'an execution', or any of the other bull shit lawyer and media terms, is a crock of shit.
Nothing more. Nothing less.
Brown was 6'4" tall and 292 pounds. He had already physically assaulted Officer Wilson. Wilson gave Brown 4 (four) opportunities to stop and surrender by shooting him in the arm !! Brown continued to charge Wilson, so Wilson was forced to shoot to stop further threat to his personal safety and well being. So he shot Brown in the head. No other option was available to him under the circumstances.
And all the goddamn black lawyers and others representing the Brown family and the black community, need to have the integrity and the guts to recognize the situation for what it really was.
Goddamn, there's enough fucking black lawyers supposedly 'representing' the Brown family to form a fucking football team.
Wake up and smell the coffee, people, and stop all the crap about the 'poor, unarmed' fucking black boy getting ready to start 'college' in a couple of days. That line is bull shit too. He was going to start a trade school to learn how to do something useful maybe.
The Grand Jury shouldn't even consider an indictment against Officer Wilson under the circumstances, but I doubt they'll have the guts to return that verdict.
The thug was shot in the front, not the back, as he was bum rushing the cop and trying to take his gun away, not while he was running away or surrendering.
I am at least as opposed to militarized, tyranical, killer cops as anyone who posts here, bit from the facts that are coming out of the autopsie(s) and numerous eyewitnesses, the cop was justified in shooting the feral thug.
"the cop should have ignored two people walking in the middle of traffic lanes? "
Yep.
Or, ask them to move to the side, and say if they don't anyone who hits them will have a witness testifying to the fact they were doing something stupid. Cops get involved in way too much, and turn everything into a confrontation.
You already know that cops are liars. Why are you suddenly putting any credence in the rumormongering of cops who won't even go on the record about it? This is just more disinformation.
Brown was dirty. So was the cop. There are no good guys in this story, and I'm happy to watch them both continue losing.
Informed 42, you sir are exactly why all this bull shit is going down in Mo! I sure hope you are retired because if you're not you may be, real soon. I don't understand, with all the tools a cop has, how he can put 6 rounds into a kid at 30 feet, one in top of his 6 foot 4 inch head and call it self-defence.
Not to rain on your parade, "informed"42, but there's nothing but rumors in that story. If the cops won't go on the record, they are certainly lying.
(They are only probably lying if they are ON the record.)
In this particular case, it VERY much looks like you had a very aggressive 18 year old physically confronting a store owner and then a police officer. He appears to have physically assaulted both parties....IMO, the store clerk (from the posted pics) would have had every legal justification to have shot Brown at the time those photos were snapped.
From the eye witness testimony in the cell phone video...it *sounds* like Brown rushed the officer after initially fleeing the officer and vehicle....IF that's what happened, then the cop may have been justified in shooting as well.
The problem is that the protestors are extrapolating a legitimate complaint about the way things are handled in Ferguson ($2.6M in frivolous ticket revenue per annum; common in many small municipalities) to this particular shooting. So far, it doesn't look like the protesting is really justified beyond stopping Brown and his friend for "walking while black".
Now, here's the rub: there's pretty good evidence that Ferguson is making a killing off of giving people in their own community tickets for stupid shit like this. If Brown and his friend were being profiled for their skin color; that's wrong....plain and simple. Also, it means that they were being illegally detained if they were stopped (illegal in the sense that, just b/c a municipality makes an ordinance about "jaywalking", that doesn't mean the law is actually legitimate).
If one is illegally detained, one has the right to resist unlawful arrest (and being detained can be defined as "arrested" if you go off the definition in Black's Law Dictionary). If Brown was resisting this illegal detainment.....then the officer is still guilty of trying to affect an illegal arrest/kidnapping AND would also be guilty of murder under that definition. Granted, there are a LOT of "ifs" above.
The problem would be proving it by convincing a jury that a city ordinance is not a legitimate law. But again, this goes back to the proper role of law and government; which is to ensure the protection of individual rights. If no one's rights are violated, there shouldn't be any crime that is deemed to have been committed. Jaywalking would certainly fall into that category as long as no one's rights are violated/property damaged.
The bad thing is this: it doesn't appear that ANYONE in Ferguson is in the right; certainly not protestors looting and rioting and destroying the private property of owners who had nothing to do with the alleged injustice. Certainly not Officer Wilson IF he targeted the two young men based on their skin color (which we'll likely never really know). Certainly not Michael Brown, who obviously threatened and intimidated the shop clerk, and certainly not the PDs that responded to the protestors with sound cannons, tear gas, threats and violence.
There are no winners in this.
Cop in video chatting with another near the corpse, not nursing any wounds to face, no bleeding or marks to be seen.
Forensics at least at this point are pointing to excessive force, murder by a thug. 2 head shots, directed downward by cop who's much shorter than Brown, no skid marks on Brown from charging, just face abrasion. He's already down and fired upon it would appear.
Forensics at least at this point are pointing to excessive force, murder by a thug. 2 head shots, directed downward by cop who's much shorter than Brown, no skid marks on Brown from charging, just face abrasion. He's already down and fired upon it would appear.
That's a huge, unjustified assumption. It's more likely that the head shots are at that angle because Brown was already falling from the earlier shots. That doesn't enter into the justification argument either way -- once you've started shooting, you shoot until you know that they are down, and no one is fast enough to hold those last couple of shots as they start falling.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Informed 42, you sir are exactly why all this bull shit is going down in Mo! I sure hope you are retired because if you're not you may be, real soon. I don't understand, with all the tools a cop has, how he can put 6 rounds into a kid at 30 feet, one in top of his 6 foot 4 inch head and call it self-defence.
Alrighty then 'Anonymous' , there's obviously a lot of things you 'don't understand', but that obviously doesn't prevent you from running your mouth about something you don't apparently know jack shit about. So here goes an attempt to enlighten you a bit, which may very well be a waste of my time and energy, but I'll try. By the way, 'defense' is the correct spelling.
First off, how many people have you ever shot that were charging toward you and were less than 40 feet away ? Any ?
Secondly, what do you know about what caliber weapon Officer Wilson had and its ballistics ? I don't know anything about the weapon because nothing has been in the news about it or its caliber. Different weapons and calibers have much different affects on people and their how fast or slowly an attacker may be stopped and the threat ended.
The size of an individual has a bearing on it too. A large, fat person may have to be shot numerous times to stop them, all depending on the caliber of the weapon used and the type of bullets used.
IF, for example, Officer Wilson was armed with a 9 MM pistol loaded with full metal jacketed bullets weighing 115 grains, he may have had to shoot Brown more than 6 times to stop him. He hit Brown 4 times in the arm. That doesn't stop someone. After that, he hit him twice in the head. That ended the threat to Wilson,
who had already been assaulted at least once prior to this confrontation by Brown.
9 MM's are alright in some cases.
They're what our troops are currently issued for side arms.
They have been found to be under powered in many instances in the Middle East combat areas, and failed to put aggressors down and keep them down with 5 and 6 shots to their bodies ! That's why a lot of the old .45 Semi-auto pistols have been re-issued to troops in the field.
Had Officer Wilson been armed with a .45 and using 230 grain bullets, and shot Brown in the torso, I seriously doubt he would have had to shoot him 6 times to put him down.
The two head shot are indicative to me, based on past experience, that Brown was charging Wilson and had his head tilted forward in doing so. Thus the shot around the eye knocking his head further downward, exposed the top of his head more, and the second head shot was due to that and the recoil of Wilson's weapon.
As information, there was a police officer in south Florida a year or two ago that shot a large individual male with a .40 Caliber pistol some 22 times before putting him down. And 17 of the 22 shots hit the guy in the chest. There were no drugs and very little alcohol in the attacker's system when he was shot.
Hopefully this hasn't been a waste of my time or energy.
Have a nice day and wait and see what else comes out in this case because the lies and changing stories from some of the 'eye witnesses' like Dorian Johnson and others, only promise to show how really untruthful and unreliable what they've said is.
Well, Phelps, when I read your first comment I started to post a retort, but when I read this part of your next one-
'That's a huge, unjustified assumption. It's more likely that the head shots are at that angle because Brown was already falling from the earlier shots. That doesn't enter into the justification argument either way -- once you've started shooting, you shoot until you know that they are down, and no one is fast enough to hold those last couple of shots as they start falling.'
I changed my mind and have to recognize that you have good sense and are a logical person, perhaps with some experience, knowledge and common sense.
I sure agree with you on this part of your post !!
This post inspired me to finally weigh in on this mess: Ferguson, Missouri, Micheal Brown, and Darren Wilson
Right. To be clear, I think that preponderance of the evidence (the 50-50 call) is that this was a bad shoot, because the idea that Brown would fight, then run away, and after losing and running away, turn around, and decide to run back in, is ridiculous. I can see him fighting, I can see him running, and I can see him charging, but not all in the same fight.
We don't have any solid info on Wilson's alleged injuries. No one will go on the record. I take a negative inference from that, and chalk it up to misinformation. There are enough witnesses that agree on a scuffle at the car that I accept that as true. If we accept that, then we KNOW that the sequence of events at LEAST includes:
1) Brown struggles at the car with Wilson
2) Brown runs away
3) Wilson shoots Brown at a distance
The problem I have is that the 2.5 step of "Brown decides to charge back in" makes NO GODDAMN SENSE, even from the standpoint of an egotistical thug. It sounds like the same-old-same-old bullshit justification story that a cop always comes up with for a bad shoot. In fact, it is the EXACT lie that the cop came up with for THIS bad shoot, until the video proved him a liar:
http://news.yahoo.com/dallas-officer-shot-mentally-ill-man-fired-175112193.html
The most likely story, to me, is the one told by several witnesses: Brown fights Wilson at the car. Brown runs away. Wilson shoots and misses as Brown is running. Brown stops and turns around. Wilson continues shooting as this happens until Brown is down.
Am I convinced beyond a reasonable doubt? No. I am sure not ready to convict Wilson on just what we know about. But I'm sure as hell not inclined to expend any energy trying to make his story fit the facts.
informed 42, my post in response to you're post had nothing to do with the caliber of the gun used or type of load used. It had everything to do with your bull-shit statements that have not bin proven. One fact that has bin proven is the kid was unarmed! A cop has a club, mace, taiser, car, with a radio and door locks if he can't handle the kid. you should take a course in reading comp. As far as shooting people none that where unarmed.
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