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Thursday, December 13, 2012

Dutch journalist on America's brewing civil war.

Here's the Dutch original: "Er broeit een burgeroorlog in Amerika" and here's the truly awful Google translation: "There is a civil war brewing in America."

As for the quotes of me, it is impossible to tell which are misquotes by the journalist and which are translation errors. I have not replayed my tape of the interview, but from memory I have corrected the passages as follows:

"I do not want a civil war, but as Obama pushes us (the leave-me-alone coalition) further and further into a corner," says Mike Vanderboegh. He is a blogger and belongs to the radical rightists who believe that America is increasingly oppressed by the power from Washington. "Obama does not yet meet all the characteristics of a tyrant, but it starts looking more and more like it."

Later in the story:

. . . "Leave us alone, that our message," says blogger Vanderboegh. "Just leave us the hell alone." He says it is impossible to know when the rebellion might break out, but according to him, all you need is a determined minority. "We are now the most heavily armed civilian population in the history of mankind. That is a strategic military fact. If the government pushes us too much, then they are in trouble, because at some point we'll shoot back. "

I'm just sorry he left out my opinion of the secession petitions: "They are as significant as masturbation -- they give fleeting pleasure to the participant, have no effect and will be ignored by everyone else including the powers-that-be."

4 comments:

Tasso said...: "... and if you do it in public they'll lock you up."; December 13, 2012 at 12:29 PM
Anonymous said...: Looks like the Dutch version matches your corrected quotes pretty well.

And he did mention that the expectation is that not much will happen with the petitions, you said it better, but it's the same point :); December 13, 2012 at 1:28 PM
Anonymous said...: Totalitarians through history realize that they must liquidate a certain percentage of the populace in order to achieve total control. I think that they believe that they will soon have the means to do this. I'm reading a book by the name of Bloodlands. The methodology of Stalin and Hitler when they began their rise to power is eerily similar to what we see today from team Obama. Evil bastards.; December 13, 2012 at 9:23 PM
Anonymous said...: The Secession Petitions are the letters written to the King for redress of our complaints. They are as important to the whole as having ammo and a good reliable rifle. Knoking one part because you don't see it as worth while for yourself is how we came to have a fractured Liberty movement. The origins of the TEA Party were in Liberty with 2A core but some do not see the value of the Sheepdog amongst the heard.

Cruachan
Highlander; December 14, 2012 at 7:31 AM

"Progress made under the shadow of the policeman's club is false progress."

I believe that liberty is the only genuinely valuable thing that men have invented, at least in the field of government, in a thousand years. I believe that it is better to be free than to be not free, even when the former is dangerous and the latter safe. I believe that the finest qualities of man can flourish only in free air – that progress made under the shadow of the policeman's club is false progress, and of no permanent value. I believe that any man who takes the liberty of another into his keeping is bound to become a tyrant, and that any man who yields up his liberty, in however slight the measure, is bound to become a slave. -- H.L. Mencken

"The Fate of Unborn Millions. . ."

"The time is now near at hand which must probably determine, whether Americans are to be, Freemen, or Slaves; whether they are to have any property they can call their own; whether their Houses, and Farms, are to be pillaged and destroyed, and they consigned to a State of Wretchedness from which no human efforts will probably deliver them. The fate of unborn Millions will now depend, under God, on the Courage and Conduct of this army-Our cruel and unrelenting Enemy leaves us no choice but a brave resistance, or the most abject submission; that is all we can expect-We have therefore to resolve to conquer or die." -- George Washington to his troops before the Battle of Long Island.

"We will not go gently . . ."

This is no small thing, to restore a republic after it has fallen into corruption. I have studied history for years and I cannot recall it ever happening. It may be that our task is impossible. Yet, if we do not try then how will we know it can't be done? And if we do not try, it most certainly won't be done. The Founders' Republic, and the larger war for western civilization, will be lost.

But I tell you this: We will not go gently into that bloody collectivist good night. Indeed, we will make with our defiance such a sound as ALL history from that day forward will be forced to note, even if they despise us in the writing of it.

And when we are gone, the scattered, free survivors hiding in the ruins of our once-great republic will sing of our deeds in forbidden songs, tending the flickering flame of individual liberty until it bursts forth again, as it must, generations later. We will live forever, like the Spartans at Thermopylae, in sacred memory.

-- Mike Vanderboegh, The Lessons of Mumbai:Death Cults, the "Socialism of Imbeciles" and Refusing to Submit, 1 December 2008

"A common language of resistance . . ."

"Colonial rebellions throughout the modern world have been acts of shared political imagination. Unless unhappy people develop the capacity to trust other unhappy people, protest remains a local affair easily silenced by traditional authority. Usually, however, a moment arrives when large numbers of men and women realize for the first time that they enjoy the support of strangers, ordinary people much like themselves who happen to live in distant places and whom under normal circumstances they would never meet. It is an intoxicating discovery. A common language of resistance suddenly opens to those who are most vulnerable to painful retribution the possibility of creating a new community. As the conviction of solidarity grows, parochial issues and aspirations merge imperceptibly with a compelling national agenda which only a short time before may have been the dream of only a few. For many Americans colonists this moment occurred late in the spring of 1774." -- T.H. Breen, The Marketplace of Revolution: How Consumer Politics Shaped American Independence, Oxford University Press, 2004, p.1.

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