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Friday, November 11, 2011

How are you supposed to tell the difference these days?

Man shot in face during violent home invasion

A family was tied up in their own home when someone broke in overnight. One person ended up shot.

It happened at a home on North Wayside near Way around 1:30am. Investigators tell us four to six masked suspects claiming to be ATF officers barged into the home and held up the family inside. The armed men shot one family member and tied everyone up.

11 comments:

Longbow said...: Oh come on! They wouldn't do that! ATF has never done anything like that! Nothing even remotely like that has ever happened! I choose not to believe it.

Oh! Wait a minute! You said it was thugs pretending to be good guys? Oh well, yeah... that has happened before.; November 11, 2011 at 8:13 AM
Bad Cyborg said...: Especially since it is now an offense to refuse them entry.

What ever happened to the 4th amendment ("Police! Search warrant!" crash of battering ram breaking down door)? The instructor in my CHL class (a current serving(???) peace officer) admitted that "no refusal" DWI testing is on shaky 4th and 5th amendments ground. When I called him on it he looked kinda sheepish and said something about a guy's needing to keep his job. I responded with my usual "I'd take a bullet for a cop but pigs ought to be shot on sight" line. He didn't say anything. I reckon because he couldn't. He refused to even consider going to Stuart Rhodes' site.

I am coming to the conclusion that when it comes to law enforcement officers, St. Paul in Romans 3:10 had the right of it.
"“There is no one righteous, not even one;"; November 11, 2011 at 10:47 AM
Hammerhead said...: If the Authorities can't knock on my door politely and serve me I will assume they are armed criminals and I will take as many of them out as I can. If they even make it past the claymores are the front door.

Cocked, locked and ready to rock!

Hammerhead Out!; November 11, 2011 at 10:56 AM
Anonymous said...: If you are ATF or any 3 letter jack boots and you come into my place like that, you will be treated like an unknown intruder
Thats why we have rights, and rules..no warrent served?..come pick up your collateral damage!. Get these dead violators out of my place and clean up after yoursellfs, while your here leave a few million bucks behind to pay for your stupidity.
And if you take out any of my family in your stupid illegal act, expect to pay for it with your life, and that includes all my dogs; November 11, 2011 at 11:03 AM
Anonymous said...: The family must be Branch Davidians.; November 11, 2011 at 12:10 PM
Anonymous said...: As long as we're all "patiently" waiting for "Absolved", I recommend "Unintended Consequences" by John Ross. It includes lots of scenarios from ATF's greatest hits. Some you've heard of and some you haven't. It's out of print and used hardcover copies are going for $100.00 but I managed to find a .pdf of it on the web. Not sure if it's a "legal" copy so I won't post the link here. If I could find it so can you. If you're interested that is.; November 11, 2011 at 1:14 PM
Jimmy the Saint said...: @ Anonymous: "Thats why we have rights"

The Clash had it right:

"Know your rights, all 3 of them -

Number 1: You have the right not to be killed. Murder is a crime, unless it is done by a policeman or an aristocrat . . .

Number 3: You have the right to free speech, provided you're not dumb enough to actually try it."; November 11, 2011 at 1:14 PM
Anonymous said...: "How are you supposed to tell the difference these days?"

Ah, Yes! The ol' false premise trick question trick!

There is no difference!; November 11, 2011 at 2:25 PM
AJ said...: Speaking of The Clash.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiQoq-wqZxg; November 11, 2011 at 3:08 PM
JimmyCrackCorn said...: "If you are ATF or any 3 letter jack boots and you come into my place like that, you will be treated like an unknown intruder
Thats why we have rights, and rules..no warrent served?..come pick up your collateral damage!. Get these dead violators out of my place and clean up after yoursellfs, while your here leave a few million bucks behind to pay for your stupidity.
And if you take out any of my family in your stupid illegal act, expect to pay for it with your life, and that includes all my dogs"

... said the nameless badass ...; November 11, 2011 at 5:11 PM
e.c.c. said...: Anyone that barges or attempts to barge into my place has made their last mistake... I refuse to be a helpless victim. I can't understand why more people aren't armed and trained.; November 12, 2011 at 8:26 PM

"Progress made under the shadow of the policeman's club is false progress."

I believe that liberty is the only genuinely valuable thing that men have invented, at least in the field of government, in a thousand years. I believe that it is better to be free than to be not free, even when the former is dangerous and the latter safe. I believe that the finest qualities of man can flourish only in free air – that progress made under the shadow of the policeman's club is false progress, and of no permanent value. I believe that any man who takes the liberty of another into his keeping is bound to become a tyrant, and that any man who yields up his liberty, in however slight the measure, is bound to become a slave. -- H.L. Mencken

"The Fate of Unborn Millions. . ."

"The time is now near at hand which must probably determine, whether Americans are to be, Freemen, or Slaves; whether they are to have any property they can call their own; whether their Houses, and Farms, are to be pillaged and destroyed, and they consigned to a State of Wretchedness from which no human efforts will probably deliver them. The fate of unborn Millions will now depend, under God, on the Courage and Conduct of this army-Our cruel and unrelenting Enemy leaves us no choice but a brave resistance, or the most abject submission; that is all we can expect-We have therefore to resolve to conquer or die." -- George Washington to his troops before the Battle of Long Island.

"We will not go gently . . ."

This is no small thing, to restore a republic after it has fallen into corruption. I have studied history for years and I cannot recall it ever happening. It may be that our task is impossible. Yet, if we do not try then how will we know it can't be done? And if we do not try, it most certainly won't be done. The Founders' Republic, and the larger war for western civilization, will be lost.

But I tell you this: We will not go gently into that bloody collectivist good night. Indeed, we will make with our defiance such a sound as ALL history from that day forward will be forced to note, even if they despise us in the writing of it.

And when we are gone, the scattered, free survivors hiding in the ruins of our once-great republic will sing of our deeds in forbidden songs, tending the flickering flame of individual liberty until it bursts forth again, as it must, generations later. We will live forever, like the Spartans at Thermopylae, in sacred memory.

-- Mike Vanderboegh, The Lessons of Mumbai:Death Cults, the "Socialism of Imbeciles" and Refusing to Submit, 1 December 2008

"A common language of resistance . . ."

"Colonial rebellions throughout the modern world have been acts of shared political imagination. Unless unhappy people develop the capacity to trust other unhappy people, protest remains a local affair easily silenced by traditional authority. Usually, however, a moment arrives when large numbers of men and women realize for the first time that they enjoy the support of strangers, ordinary people much like themselves who happen to live in distant places and whom under normal circumstances they would never meet. It is an intoxicating discovery. A common language of resistance suddenly opens to those who are most vulnerable to painful retribution the possibility of creating a new community. As the conviction of solidarity grows, parochial issues and aspirations merge imperceptibly with a compelling national agenda which only a short time before may have been the dream of only a few. For many Americans colonists this moment occurred late in the spring of 1774." -- T.H. Breen, The Marketplace of Revolution: How Consumer Politics Shaped American Independence, Oxford University Press, 2004, p.1.

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