It would be very hard to make 2 million plus bullets with the equipment show in the pictures.
The single stage presses shown would have seated the primers, but the rest of the machines suggest they turned every brass casing.
I realize were talking 9mm here but they had to have a source of .394-.400 diameter solid round brass .750 long to do the turning.
The small lathe could have done that provided they turned the base first which included the primer pocket then after inverting the brass using a drill bored the other end to depth.
They showed another tool with a drill chuck and a lathe style turret handle. This machine could have done some of the drilling or shaping of the cartridge.
Altogether cartridges could be made but it would have been slow and the amount of brass removed would have been greater then the amount remaining to make the cartridge.
This may also be why the Israelis rely so much on cartridges like the 9MM they are simple straight cased cartridges. A bottled necked rifle cartridge like a 30.06 requires tempering during the case making process, plus swaging equipment none of which were shown in the pictures.
This may be a lesson to the militia, simpler style straight wall cases such as the 9MM and 30 caliber carbine maybe the fall back cartridge of the 3%
Anony hints, "...This may be a lesson to the militia, simpler style straight wall cases such as the 9MM and 30 caliber carbine maybe the fall back cartridge of the 3%..."
Might I suggest .357 and some .38? I've always hankered for a semi auto .357, such as Ruger's .44 carbine. Now that Coonan has the .357 auto, and there's a .38 auto as well, I no longer hunger for them.
Sheesh, I'd think the author of this article would have taken the trouble to understand the distinction between cartridges and bullets, given the subject matter.
This story is about some really dedicated people who were fighting for their survival. A lot of people haven't figured it out yet but the American citizens are soon going to have to fight for their survival against an OUT OF CONTROL Gubmint that has already cut off the supply of ammunition. It might be too late to start reloading ammo.
The small lathe was used to trim the cartridge after it was formed.
They used brass blanks. The brass blank is pressed over a stud to shape the round. This is done in more than one stage. The blank needs to be trimmed after stages. The small lathe could have also been used to rework the studs as they wear out over time. Here are some link about cartridge manufacturing. http://books.google.com/books/about/Cartridge_Manufacture.html?id=GNAqAAAAYAAJ http://www.ssarmory.com/ammunitionmanufacturingequipment.aspx
There are other book on these subjects. This is something I have been interested in for some time.
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Here we go with this bullshit again. It looks like the 90% figure has been revised down to 70%.
It would be very hard to make 2 million plus bullets with the equipment show in the pictures.
The single stage presses shown would have seated the primers, but the rest of the machines suggest they turned every brass casing.
I realize were talking 9mm here but they had to have a source of .394-.400 diameter solid round brass .750 long to do the turning.
The small lathe could have done that provided they turned the base first which included the primer pocket then after inverting the brass using a drill bored the other end to depth.
They showed another tool with a drill chuck and a lathe style turret handle. This machine could have done some of the drilling or shaping of the cartridge.
Altogether cartridges could be made but it would have been slow and the amount of brass removed would have been greater then the amount remaining to make the cartridge.
This may also be why the Israelis rely so much on cartridges like the 9MM they are simple straight cased cartridges. A bottled necked rifle cartridge like a 30.06 requires tempering during the case making process, plus swaging equipment none of which were shown in the pictures.
This may be a lesson to the militia, simpler style straight wall cases such as the 9MM and 30 caliber carbine maybe the fall back cartridge of the 3%
Anony hints, "...This may be a lesson to the militia, simpler style straight wall cases such as the 9MM and 30 caliber carbine maybe the fall back cartridge of the 3%..."
Might I suggest .357 and some .38?
I've always hankered for a semi auto .357, such as Ruger's .44 carbine. Now that Coonan has the .357 auto, and there's a .38 auto as well, I no longer hunger for them.
There was a video documentary on the underground factory too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQNw5MA3DII
RSR
Sheesh, I'd think the author of this article would have taken the trouble to understand the distinction between cartridges and bullets, given the subject matter.
This story is about some really dedicated people who were fighting for their survival. A lot of people haven't figured it out yet but the American citizens are soon going to have to fight for their survival against an OUT OF CONTROL Gubmint that has already cut off the supply of ammunition. It might be too late to start reloading ammo.
The small lathe was used to trim the cartridge after it was formed.
They used brass blanks. The brass blank is pressed over a stud to shape the round. This is done in more than one stage. The blank needs to be trimmed after stages.
The small lathe could have also been used to rework the studs as they wear out over time.
Here are some link about cartridge manufacturing.
http://books.google.com/books/about/Cartridge_Manufacture.html?id=GNAqAAAAYAAJ
http://www.ssarmory.com/ammunitionmanufacturingequipment.aspx
There are other book on these subjects. This is something I have been interested in for some time.
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