These scumbag SWAT would have killed a 9yr old boy holding a toy gun too. And then say.."Get on the floor"
Having not read the story previously, on any other news outlet, what I don't understand is..why were the SWAT there? Surely, it takes some time for a SWAT team to assemble and travel. Unless this victim was holding a toy gun for at least 15 minutes, something is missing from this story. Like..who called the SWAT..and for what, someone holding a Toy gun in a toy department at Walfart? Seriously, something is missing here.
Johnson said police did not talk to her at the time of the shooting. She believes the police did not do their job properly and wants to see justice done. Once the case is reviewed, they will find everything she said is consistent with what camera footage and phone records will show.
“I hope the police get fired and sent to jail, because (the officer who fired) didn’t do his job. He didn’t treat him like a human being. He didn’t treat him someone at Walmart looking at toy guns,” she said.
Beavercreek Police and the Ohio Attorney General’s Office, when contacted Wednesday, refused to say whether Crawford was armed with a toy or a real weapon.
“I can’t comment – that’s part of the open investigation,” Attorney General’s Office spokeswoman Jill Del Greco said.
Lamon Brown, Crawford’s cousin, spoke on behalf of the family. The family has contacted the NAACP and National Action Network, he said.
“He does not own (a rifle-like weapon). We think it was a toy,” Brown said. “We actually think it was a toy. After these things happen they usually report what kind of gun it was, but they’re not saying what kind of gun it was.”
Tasha Thomas, who identified herself as Crawford’s girlfriend and appeared in the audience with his family members at Wednesday’s police news conference, said that Crawford has two children and that she has known him for four months.
She said she drove him to the Walmart after picking him up at an outlet mall in Cincinnati. He was not armed when he entered the Walmart, she said. She said she was with him in the store, but was in another aisle when he was shot.
“He did not have any type of gun on him,” she said. “It’s not fair.” --------------------
The phone conversation and the Wal-Mart videos will tell the tale...IF we get to see and hear that crucial evidence.
@Vegas Dave: you are a disgusting boot-licking bigoted jackass, and part of the problem, not any solution. --------------- Anonymous is right...there is a stink about this that seems quite fishy.
We need to see the videos and hear the phone conversation...
Unless those things are to be revealed only when supportive of the government line...
The police officer's guns need to be inspected to determine the weight of the trigger pull. If their guns were modified for a lighter trigger pull, well let's just say they need to lawyer up.
Haven't you noticed lately "almost all cops are SWAT." All they have to do is go into the trunk of their polizee cars and pull out SWAT gear; they are now ready,willing, and able.
i'd like to see some video to see if the kid was really aiming it at people or acting in a manner that would lead people to think it was a real gun. But why didn't other people start running and screaming or also call 9-1-1. Was no one else around him? The ex-marine says there were people around; the ones he says the kid was acting threatening with. It seems he was the only one that took this to be a real weapon. Was he overseas a bit too long and everything looks like a weapon to him now?
Don't all airsoft guns and most other toy guns have an orange muzzle? Maybe the busybodies weren't aware of that, but the cops should be.
Most people, myself included, don't worry too much about muzzle discipline with plastic guns. What might look like dangerous waving of a gun around, if you think it is a real gun, is just nothing if it is plastic.
I bet the cops have confiscated all the videos and we won't get a chance to see them (probably get "accidentally" damaged).
"Sorry Mike; TNB. Guy was scaring people and that was his intention. There apparently is a price to pay when you want act all gangsta.
I for one am glad he wont be bringing anymore children into this world for the taxpayers to support. "
Great, why don't you just go to your nearest ghetto and begin shooting and let me know how it went. Like it or not, gangsta is part of the culture. Killing someone for scaring people with a toy gun is pretty damn Biggie Smalls style gangsta. Arrest and jail time would be fine, but no, your lust and taste for blood is insaitable. Go to a blood mobile and steal some blood if you have such a bad taste for blood drinking you bastard.
I wasn't there and neither was anyone else posting here up until now. All the second guessing and what if and what for's and racist rants don't change the fact that a cop took it upon himself to shoot this guy inside a Wally world. All I can say is the store tapes better tell a heck of a tale otherwise the cops and department and going to (correctly) owned by the lawyers!
I do like the comments (on the BA website) about filing suit against Bloomberg and the others for creating the hyper-sensitive fear that apparently got this man killed. Such a suit wouldn't gain any traction, at first, but someday would force these dipshits to pay close attention to what spews from between their lips.
There are also a lot of cops in this country that seemingly need to back off the testosterone supplements a bit. If they are wound up so tightly that attention to detail (posture, body language, manner of speech, and the like) goes out the window, then these people need to find another career path. I suggest Wal-Mart. They can scrub toilets for a while. As for the ex marine... it would appear that his situational awareness sucks ass.
Like Hillary says "What difference does it make" now that the guy is dead. Too many people act like idiots.......too many cops act like idiots. The cops didn't use ANY tact it would seem like....
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Sorry Mike; TNB. Guy was scaring people and that was his intention. There apparently is a price to pay when you want act all gangsta.
I for one am glad he wont be bringing anymore children into this world for the taxpayers to support.
These scumbag SWAT would have killed a 9yr old boy holding a toy gun too.
And then say.."Get on the floor"
Having not read the story previously, on any other news outlet, what I don't understand is..why were the SWAT there? Surely, it takes some time for a SWAT team to assemble and travel. Unless this victim was holding a toy gun for at least 15 minutes, something is missing from this story. Like..who called the SWAT..and for what, someone holding a Toy gun in a toy department at Walfart? Seriously, something is missing here.
Here's more from the local paper:
Johnson said police did not talk to her at the time of the shooting. She believes the police did not do their job properly and wants to see justice done. Once the case is reviewed, they will find everything she said is consistent with what camera footage and phone records will show.
“I hope the police get fired and sent to jail, because (the officer who fired) didn’t do his job. He didn’t treat him like a human being. He didn’t treat him someone at Walmart looking at toy guns,” she said.
Beavercreek Police and the Ohio Attorney General’s Office, when contacted Wednesday, refused to say whether Crawford was armed with a toy or a real weapon.
“I can’t comment – that’s part of the open investigation,” Attorney General’s Office spokeswoman Jill Del Greco said.
Lamon Brown, Crawford’s cousin, spoke on behalf of the family. The family has contacted the NAACP and National Action Network, he said.
“He does not own (a rifle-like weapon). We think it was a toy,” Brown said. “We actually think it was a toy. After these things happen they usually report what kind of gun it was, but they’re not saying what kind of gun it was.”
Tasha Thomas, who identified herself as Crawford’s girlfriend and appeared in the audience with his family members at Wednesday’s police news conference, said that Crawford has two children and that she has known him for four months.
She said she drove him to the Walmart after picking him up at an outlet mall in Cincinnati. He was not armed when he entered the Walmart, she said. She said she was with him in the store, but was in another aisle when he was shot.
“He did not have any type of gun on him,” she said. “It’s not fair.”
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The phone conversation and the Wal-Mart videos will tell the tale...IF we get to see and hear that crucial evidence.
@Vegas Dave: you are a disgusting boot-licking bigoted jackass, and part of the problem, not any solution.
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Anonymous is right...there is a stink about this that seems quite fishy.
We need to see the videos and hear the phone conversation...
Unless those things are to be revealed only when supportive of the government line...
The police officer's guns need to be inspected to determine the weight of the trigger pull. If their guns were modified for a lighter trigger pull, well let's just say they need to lawyer up.
Haven't you noticed lately "almost all cops are SWAT." All they have to do is go into the trunk of their polizee cars and pull out SWAT gear; they are now ready,willing, and able.
i'd like to see some video to see if the kid was really aiming it at people or acting in a manner that would lead people to think it was a real gun. But why didn't other people start running and screaming or also call 9-1-1. Was no one else around him? The ex-marine says there were people around; the ones he says the kid was acting threatening with. It seems he was the only one that took this to be a real weapon. Was he overseas a bit too long and everything looks like a weapon to him now?
Don't all airsoft guns and most other toy guns have an orange muzzle? Maybe the busybodies weren't aware of that, but the cops should be.
Most people, myself included, don't worry too much about muzzle discipline with plastic guns. What might look like dangerous waving of a gun around, if you think it is a real gun, is just nothing if it is plastic.
I bet the cops have confiscated all the videos and we won't get a chance to see them (probably get "accidentally" damaged).
"Sorry Mike; TNB. Guy was scaring people and that was his intention. There apparently is a price to pay when you want act all gangsta.
I for one am glad he wont be bringing anymore children into this world for the taxpayers to support. "
Great, why don't you just go to your nearest ghetto and begin shooting and let me know how it went. Like it or not, gangsta is part of the culture. Killing someone for scaring people with a toy gun is pretty damn Biggie Smalls style gangsta. Arrest and jail time would be fine, but no, your lust and taste for blood is insaitable. Go to a blood mobile and steal some blood if you have such a bad taste for blood drinking you bastard.
I wasn't there and neither was anyone else posting here up until now. All the second guessing and what if and what for's and racist rants don't change the fact that a cop took it upon himself to shoot this guy inside a Wally world. All I can say is the store tapes better tell a heck of a tale otherwise the cops and department and going to (correctly) owned by the lawyers!
I do like the comments (on the BA website) about filing suit against Bloomberg and the others for creating the hyper-sensitive fear that apparently got this man killed. Such a suit wouldn't gain any traction, at first, but someday would force these dipshits to pay close attention to what spews from between their lips.
There are also a lot of cops in this country that seemingly need to back off the testosterone supplements a bit. If they are wound up so tightly that attention to detail (posture, body language, manner of speech, and the like) goes out the window, then these people need to find another career path. I suggest Wal-Mart. They can scrub toilets for a while. As for the ex marine... it would appear that his situational awareness sucks ass.
Like Hillary says "What difference does it make" now that the guy is dead. Too many people act like idiots.......too many cops act like idiots. The cops didn't use ANY tact it would seem like....
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