In one of your post you related a southern response to this.. as my ex is from That state that begins with an "A" and where you live (I'll not set foot there again),, anyway back to my point... the saying was
This is ridiculous. The current operators of the Massachusetts government would definitely have found themselves at odds with the Founding Fathers, many of whom were from that state.
Denying constitutional rights to arrestees goes against the presumption of innocence that is inherent in American jurisprudence.
Even leftist, democrat commentators such as Gore Vidal have written about the dangers of the "National Security State".
We are unfortunate to be witnessing the end of America, to be replaced with a collectivist version of current European politics and law, where the citizen is a pawn and allegiant of the state, rather than the state being derived from the consent of the governed, as originally intended here.
It is very discouraging. The people perpetrating these abominations have no idea what they are stirring up.
Multiple arrests absent ANY convictions - yes ONLY arrests- means you ARE denied a carry permit in Illinois. This law is new and not even yet implanted (not one carry license has been issued yet).
And remember this - the NRA absolutely REFUSED to oppose this law and IS currently actively assisting Illinois government and LEO impose that upon us. Heck, their golden boy democrat partner just loved it when this bill passed. Local "gun rights activists groups" - including ISRA cheered it, called it "historic" and even outwardly supported it ( ISRA).
So y'all will have to pardon me on this one regarding the give a shit meter. It isn't being threatened here, it's already law. (But at least all those NRA credentialed trainers are pulling in that money!
Hey mike, folks often ask you for original content. If that black dog rears his ugly head anytime soon, I sure would be interested in a ravenous critique of the state of affairs in Illinois pertaining to its NRA aided "carry" law. I think that target rich environment would make any black dog run and hide, whimpering all the way home.....
Let's see...that's Kalifornia, Oregon, Washington, Washington D.C, Connecticut, New Jersey, Colorado, Illinois, New York and now Massachusetts are all on my 'no go', 'no pass through' vacation list. Have to consider that I always travel with reasonably serious armament, ammo and standard capacity magazines and carry proof of my crime free background (CHL), but would still be considered to be a criminal in these states.
The Supreme Court has ruled that the Second Amendment is an individual right, and as such can only be taken from a citizen with due process. This will not stand a Constitutional challenge and the Supreme Court will have to strike it down. In the meantime, however, people may actually have their rights infringed. My suggestion is to take names, if the Court rules that an infringement has occurred, sovereign immunity or qualified immunity is forfeit and you can go after their personal assets. I know it's the consolation prize, but it's the only one you can get within the system.
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In one of your post you related a southern response to this.. as my ex is from That state that begins with an "A" and where you live (I'll not set foot there again),, anyway back to my point... the saying was
"Oh HELL NO" (I believe that is correct)
This is ridiculous. The current operators of the Massachusetts government would definitely have found themselves at odds with the Founding Fathers, many of whom were from that state.
Denying constitutional rights to arrestees goes against the presumption of innocence that is inherent in American jurisprudence.
Even leftist, democrat commentators such as Gore Vidal have written about the dangers of the "National Security State".
We are unfortunate to be witnessing the end of America, to be replaced with a collectivist version of current European politics and law, where the citizen is a pawn and allegiant of the state, rather than the state being derived from the consent of the governed, as originally intended here.
It is very discouraging. The people perpetrating these abominations have no idea what they are stirring up.
Next; Tobacco Users to have Gun-Purchase-Rights curtailed.
We'll Make do with Fuel-Air Combinations until some Captured Weapons can be Procured.
They got it wrond ... surely it should be ELECTED but not yet convicted of a crime ...
That pesky Constitution - it prevents so much 'reasonable' and 'comon sense' repression!
III
Ahem.
Multiple arrests absent ANY convictions - yes ONLY arrests- means you ARE denied a carry permit in Illinois.
This law is new and not even yet implanted (not one carry license has been issued yet).
And remember this - the NRA absolutely REFUSED to oppose this law and IS currently actively assisting Illinois government and LEO impose that upon us. Heck, their golden boy democrat partner just loved it when this bill passed. Local "gun rights activists groups" - including ISRA cheered it, called it "historic" and even outwardly supported it ( ISRA).
So y'all will have to pardon me on this one regarding the give a shit meter. It isn't being threatened here, it's already law. (But at least all those NRA credentialed trainers are pulling in that money!
Hey mike, folks often ask you for original content. If that black dog rears his ugly head anytime soon, I sure would be interested in a ravenous critique of the state of affairs in Illinois pertaining to its NRA aided "carry" law. I think that target rich environment would make any black dog run and hide, whimpering all the way home.....
Let's see...that's Kalifornia, Oregon, Washington, Washington D.C, Connecticut, New Jersey, Colorado, Illinois, New York and now Massachusetts are all on my 'no go', 'no pass through' vacation list. Have to consider that I always travel with reasonably serious armament, ammo and standard capacity magazines and carry proof of my crime free background (CHL), but would still be considered to be a criminal in these states.
The Supreme Court has ruled that the Second Amendment is an individual right, and as such can only be taken from a citizen with due process. This will not stand a Constitutional challenge and the Supreme Court will have to strike it down. In the meantime, however, people may actually have their rights infringed. My suggestion is to take names, if the Court rules that an infringement has occurred, sovereign immunity or qualified immunity is forfeit and you can go after their personal assets. I know it's the consolation prize, but it's the only one you can get within the system.
There comes a point when it no longer makes sense, to allow yourself to be arrested. That point is the beginning of the Revolution, for you at least.
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