Sunday, March 6, 2016

Another Trump-loving, pus-filled alternate universe heard from.

Trump as the neo-Nazis imagine him to be.
A comment posted below on "Caching your Guns for a Civil War."
I ain't caching nothing... I am going to need my hardware when you Jew loving militia fags try and overthrow our glorious leader, Trump... Death to jew loving race traitors (that would be you)! When you coming to PA pussy?
See also: Top Racists And Neo-Nazis Back Donald Trump. He might not want their endorsement, but white nationalists want him.
See also, loaning the dog whistle to the dog: Donald Trump Jr. appears with white supremacist on radio show


Rusty Gunner said...

Mike, I do believe you are being trolled, there.

Anonymous said...

Who is worse, the Communist traitors you know already who sold you out but you continue to endorse play up to you, or the alleged Fascist nationalist you FEAR may exist....but not proven to exist..

Doesnt matter, the republic is de facto dead already and you instead choose to ugnore reality...what ever works so you can go about a day, doesnt matter you cant stand the face in the mirror, you have your cheap beer recliner and football..Patriots my of sellouts and liars. Im not coming back here anymore, you all are too immersed in your own self deceptions to matter..civil war is coming, you cant stop it but uou can fall to it. Im done with warnings to prepare yourselves, its too late and you dont care anyway. Your attitudes of you will make do ensure your failure.

Sign Me, Neal Jensen.

Anonymous said...

You are aware of course that Cruz is constitutionally ineligible to be president?

You seem to be promoting him

I don't have a dog in this. I reject them all.

Charles N. Steele said...

Trump supporters see in Trump whatever they want. Trump encourages this. Here are some things he's promised to do:

1. Change the libel laws so that critics of politicians can be successfully sued.

2. Increase the subsidies for one of Obama's favorite "green energy" programs, corn ethanol.

3. Provide a touchback amnesty program for illegal immigrants.

4. Establish a national health care system, paid for by the federal government.

5. Increase the use of eminent domain so that wealthy private citizens can seize the property of non-wealthy citizens.

6. Increase the national debt (no cuts in spending plus tax cuts...for the arithmetically challenged, this means growing debt).

7. Order the military to assassinate non-combatants and use torture.

These things Trump himself has promised would increase the power of the federal government and are largely un-Constitutional and destructive of liberty, but his supporters assure us he's actually going to make America great again. I can't understand why they yell at *me* or at Mike or at other Trump critics when we point out what Trump himself has said. Why aren't they yelling at Trump?

Anonymous said...

Mike, he's trolling you and you bit. Maybe because you want to believe it?

I read a post yesterday that best describes why Trump is so popular:

"This is not a cult of personality for Trump. Trump is not just our candidate, he is a murder weapon and the intended victim is the establishment GOP."

If Cruz was eligible, maybe he would be more popular? He isn't and the dems would destroy him with that. Even if he is eligible, they would sue him over it. The dems own the courts and they would remove him from the ballot. Cruz could counter-sue but they would tie him up until well after the election. Check mate. Trump is no worse than any of the rest of these idiots but he is the one talking about prosecuting the corruption in DC, terminating NAFTA and TPP, stopping immigration and a whole bunch of other issues that interest hard working Americans that NONE of the other candidates will even mention. Trump is our last stop before civil war. I know you hate him, Mike. I think you're over reacting. Maybe you can explain why you are so concerned with more than just "he's not a conservative." ?

Anonymous said...

Just great. So we might end up with general election contest between "Adolph" Trump and "Vladimir Ilyich" Clinton. Weep now for our stricken land.

FedUp said...

That comment looks like a fake troll post to me, like the letters Ann Landers used to blame on Yale students.

Dutchman6 said...

Oh, he's trolling all right, but this guy has threatened me with violence before should I come to PA. It's likely Kerodin's butt buddy Bill Nye (or so I've been told).

Dutchman6 said...

So. Neal, you're saying goodbye to Sipsey Street? Well, okay then. I'm sure you'll do well with your own blog. Vaya con Dios my disgruntled friend.

Anonymous said...

After reading these comments, I find it really interesting how much they parallel the run up to the Reagan election. Reagan was the peoples candidate just like Trump. He was vilified by the press, the tabloid writers and the right coast in general. But he won and went on the be one of the greatest presidents we have ever had.

Anonymous said...

Mike. Glad to see you are still with us.
Got a question. Exactly what do you see that is so bad about Trump?

Anonymous said...

Isn't it ironic that after all the pictures of hanging elephants and true declarations of one RINO betrayal after another, the man who is single-handedly giving the Republican establishment its last rites (Trump, don'tcha know) can't catch a break on this blog?

Gee, what's a guy gotta do? Bury the elephant, too?

Anonymous said...

Why don't you get that guy's address and maybe one of us can stop by and say hello? I mean, it sounds like he's asking for a visit, after all. If he was really such a bad ass, he'd get off his couch and come to you. He'd rather talk shit to an elderly man with a serious illness miles and miles away instead. He's a sissy faggot. Ask him to post his address. Better yet, post his IP and I'll get his address myself.

Anonymous said...

It takes both a left and a right leg to goose step towards tyranny. This explains America 's demise to a tee. I am done with voting for the lesser of two evils . Trump gets my vote. Cruz would of. Till research on his, Heidi's credentials sealed it for me. With Cruz the roads still lead to his handlers the shylock globalist bankers. Behind enemy lines, Ct.

Anonymous said...

A smaller Fed government under the constitution is toast with either Trump or the Dems candidate. Just as an earlier poster said Trump will continue to promote and apply his own statist, big gov solutions to our national problems. Read his own statements. It's axiomatic, men and politicians never act contrary to their personal world view and their political philosophy. They also act according to their character. Trump has been transparent and never bashful to make both very clear. Our problem, evidently even in the so called conservative movement, is that most who see themselves in that category have no real concept of small government and freedom under the law. You can't be rooting for a champion [Trump] throwing the base red meat and who will undoubtably use big government and it's power structure and expect, by him and those means, to restore a limited government under the Constitution. Even an unusually principled man [they are few and far between in men with political ambitions]if he uses the power structure already in place [which Trump will do] will become a tyrant. You can't beat human nature folks.

Bad Cyborg said...

OT, ah, Dutchman? Are you aware that the feds took down Cliven Bundy, Ammon Bundy, Ryan Bundy and your "buddy", Ryan Payne. A New "superseding criminal indictment was returned by the grand jury on Wednesday, March 2, and now charges a total of 19 defendants. The 14 new defendants are Melvin D. Bundy, 41, of Round Mountain, Nev., David H. Bundy, 39, of Delta, Utah, Brian D. Cavalier, 44, of Bunkerville, Nev., Blaine Cooper, 36, of Humboldt, Ariz., Gerald A. DeLemus, 61, of Rochester, N.H., Eric J. Parker, 32, of Hailey, Idaho, O. Scott Drexler, 44, of Challis, Idaho, Richard R. Lovelien, 52, of Westville, Okla., Steven A. Stewart, 36, of Hailey, Idaho, Todd C. Engel, 48, of Boundary County, Idaho, Gregory P. Burleson, 52, of Phoenix, Ariz., Joseph D. O’Shaughnessy, 43, of Cottonwood, Ariz., and Micah L. McGuire, 31, and Jason D. Woods, 30, both of Chandler, Ariz."

The URL for the story, announced by the DoiJ, is as follows:

I'm using this avenue because I'm sure you'll see it. You are welcome to delete this message as you see fit. What do you think the effective date is? Some time in February or March of 1775? Or more like some time in 1774.

Damn, Mike. I wish I could have driven you to the east coast this fall. Do you think we'll have that long? If enough crap happens, I do not for a moment believe Obama would hesitate to declare martial law and suspend the election for "the duration of the crisis". I wouldn't be even the tiniest bit surprise if, should he do that, the media didn't pick up the "the constitution is not a suicide pact" meme.

I hope no one you are close to is in that list. Hang in there Mike. OK?

From a guy with a nearly new Highlander who once offered you a ride.

Anonymous said...

Give it a rest, Dutchman. Trump ain't Hitler. I voted for Cruz and I think you are stepping over the line knocking Trump. Put THAT in your pipe and smoke it.

Anonymous said...

Ted Cruz got personal loans from big banks to fund his 2012 race, lied about them, and has a wife who is a high level Goldman Sachs banker and CFR member. Yeah, Cruz sure sounds as if he would be different from romney or mccain or dole or george w bush, etc.

Very surprised that GOA and Mike have fallen for this wolf in sheep's clothing, but they have done so much good work that I cannot hold it against them.

Anonymous said...

Charles Steele--

Among other phony b.s. posted -- the Donald's for national healthcare? you must not have read the recent policy stance on healthcare on the Donald's website, overhaul of everything, ends big pharma, monopolies, transparency of pricing in healthcare the biggest albatross this country faces... yeah no wonder he's such a threat to the establishment and globalists huh?

Anonymous said...

I see you didn't print my comment. Must have hit the mark.

jessejames87 said...

The irony here is rich. It's a false dichotomy that Trump or _______ (insert Cuz/Little Rubio/Small hands Kasich, Hillary or Sanders) is going to do jack crap. All the hand wringing and OMG HE'S HITLERZZZZZZZ that Glenn and you and the rest are doing is getting pretty ridiculous. I don't agree with him. I don't even like the man. But, the hard reality is that it doesn't matter who is in the Klown House of Mordor. Math. It doesn't care who you are and it is really harshing our collective mellow. We can't outgrow this deficit, we can't do a cultural 180ยบ and even if we could it would take GENERATIONS to do. We can't even agree on the simple things, let alone have a dedicated cultural coup spanning 40-50 years. I'd be willing to take a bet we'd hit a quadrillion in debt long before those kids had some of their own. Hah, one superman Red Team guy is going to somehow convince the morons in the House, Senate and Judiciary to roll back even a decade of corruption, spending and cultural suicide. Then the cherry on top, the racial, ethnic, social, cultural and religious factions all get together and decide to accept even a 20% reduction in benefits/grants/department budgets, let alone 75%. Don't make me laugh. The only thing I find exciting is the possibility of flipping a giant middle finger to the GOP right before it all the inevitabilities come crashing down. I'd at least like to see the back-stabbing little traitors shown for who they are and watch the party fracture, die and see the cockroaches scatter before Rome burns. We have made our bed, and we WILL lay in it. Might as well get a chuckle in the process. Perhaps Cruz or another could kick the can a few more years down the road, but I honestly am past caring who is elected. It's all coming down, whether we choose a dictator with bad hair, even worse hair and a pantsuit, almost no hair and a crazy streak a mile wide, or another idiot four years from now. So while Cruz seems like a decent guy, it's no different him banging his head against a wall for 4 years and someone else doing the deed, or Trump/Hillary/Bernie doing it now. You cannot fix stupid and we've cultivated it in spades.

Anonymous said...

This troll is definitely a psy-op by the powers-that-be. Notice how he intentionally attempts to make himself look like a low I.Q. "redneck" by using the double negative in his first sentence...As for the two articles; the second article has SPLC doing the Nazi name-calling of a radio host. Am I now to start believing anything out of the mouths of those clowns? And the first article; well that neo-Nazi group does have a cool flag, I'll give 'em that. But it's been proven time and again that these groups are pretty much run by the Feds. So what better psy-op to demonize anyone than to send them out in favor of you? Damn, that could ruin the most innocent person. Imagine a bunch of these Fed run groups suddenly came out saying "We love Mike V.". Try explaining your way out of that one! Nobody would want to listen and you'd be stuck with a "Nazi" moniker. Tavistock and Rand corp. spend all day thinking up this kind of shit to spin our heads round and round. They have to make Trump look racist to keep the black and Latino vote away from him; not an easy task considering the amount of Latino vote he got in Nevada...History will always teach great lessons. Just study "Operation Gladio" to learn how they demonized left-wing groups in Europe back in the eighties (or COINTELPRO here) and you'll get their M.O. It just never ends with globalist bullshit artists...

Anonymous said...

Watching you devolve into a hate filled angry old man , raging at the world as you go insane from fear of your impending death is painful to watch. Your rage and hate will chain you to your suffering for eternity if you don't let them go. Do you enjoy your suffering? Are you addicted to it? Because if you DON'T let them go they are a sure ticket to the hell you fear.

Anonymous said...

For those falling for the Trump express. It's a STINKING sideshow! For goodness sakes he said Richard N. Hass President of the CFR directs his foreign policy views.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

Please read this article

a short bite, THINK people!

""""Politics today is about one thing and one thing only: maintaining the status quo between the Controllers (the politicians, the bureaucrats, and the corporate elite) and the Controlled (the taxpayers).

Hillary will not save the nation. Nor will Bernie, Trump, Rubio, or Cruz.

The only ones who can save the nation are “we the people,” and yet the American people remain eager to be persuaded that a new president in the White House can solve the problems that plague us."""""""

ScottJ175 said...

Electing Trump to stick it to the establishment is like burning your house down because you have some plumbing problems.

Anonymous said...

Yeah every "Cruz is ineligible and Democrats will use it against him" comment is a troll!

No, not one Democrat will use it against him. Here is why...each and every way they COULD use it would see Obama nailed to the wall, and anchor babies too.

Sure they will TALK about it, cry about it, issue empty threats about it but none will actually follow it through. You know, just like Democrat Donald himself has shown already.

So then, those posting about and making the claims like that-about being afraid of dems - are exposed as the trolls.

The dems and establishment GOPe have teamed up, and that fear presentation is just part of the marketing. Both crews FEAR Cruz on multiple levels. Only by teaming up to avoid Cruz altogether can they keep their status quo and if it takes electing Trump the progressive new York Democrat to accomplish it and do so by 1/3 vote wins, they are showing they will do so.

OF COURAGE Cruz born in Canada to only one citizen doesn't meet the NBC clause...that's THE POINT!!! PSSSST Obama only had one Citizen parent. Duh.

Electing Ted Cruz sees the Constitution shoved down the elites throats no matter what happens if people have the sense to elect him. Either the whole Obama fraud comes out and people have to answer for it OR the judiciary exposes itself as refusing to adhere to the Constitution. If it breaks that way, then Cruz leads by example and shows what adhering to our founding documents looks like in action.

No matter which way it breaks, the Constitution wins and by extension liberty wins.

Anyone who cannot SEE that is just not looking at honestly or are simply abject idiots.

That's why it is Cruz or LOSE.
The Constitution itself is at stake. So Wake Up.

Anonymous said...

Am I missing something? If memory serves, wasn't it Hillary who recently, gladly, accepted a 6.1 Million dollar campaign donation from a Nazi collaborator named George Soros?

FSHB said...

Trump and Hitlery are two sides of the same globalist coin. The proof is quite simply the amount of airtime the 'mainstream' media applies to each. Trump is their creation, bought and paid for. He says what people want to hear, and is 'flexible' about positions, values, truth, etc. Voting for someone because they make the people you hate uncomfortable is like cutting off your nose to spite your face. Mr. Trump and Mrs. Clinton both have the potential to become actual fascist dictators.

Anonymous said...

EXCLUSIVE–Donald Trump Jr.: ‘We Believe In The Right To Carry,’ The Right To Shoot Back

Donald Trump Jr. says he shares his personal commitment to the Second Amendment and pro-gun policies with his father, presidential candidate Donald J. Trump.

Don Jr. is a competitive high power shooter and a hunter. He talked of how traveling to shoot in competition–particularly entering California with an AR-15–has taught him firsthand the mess that law-abiding citizens face in trying to exercise their right to keep and bear arms.

He then said:

The Second Amendment was not a random afterthought 150 years after the constitution was written. It was the second thing after freedom of speech and religion. The fact that that’s even up for interpretation is even up for interpretation by the left these days is candidly mind boggling.

Anonymous said...

Are you really so insane as to believe that you will be blogging in four months? You act as if you will live forever. When in fact you have days left at best. The one who is done is you. Not Neal. Just remember that all the people you spew your hate and impotent rage at get to come to Alabama and piss on your grave THIS YEAR, and there is nothing you can do to censor that. I love that here; at your end, your true and evil face shines with its true malice for the world to see. You attract shit like this because; like the trolls who follow you. You have the same festering evil within you. Repent while you may, or burn in hell. The choice is really up to you. You can fool the internet, but you cannot fool GOD.

Chiu ChunLing said...

The exact thing that is so obnoxious about Trump is that he was never serious about running for President, only about making Republicans look obnoxious and extreme if they said anything about actually preserving and defending America and the Constitution. He's the only one "allowed" to say the things he said because his "toxic extremist" shtick was instrumental in ensuring nobody could say them without being considered a toxic extremist.

Now voters are so angry that they're voting for toxic extremism, and guess who that is?

Trump would find this funnier if they weren't so angry that they are willing to start shooting politicians who reneg on defending America, which is why he is increasingly blatantly playing to lose, hoping to alienate the toxic extremist voters least likely (in his calculation, not mine, but he's not a total fool) to shoot him for alienating them. What Trump wants to do is alienate everyone that won't shoot him for not being their ideal candidate, lose (however narrowly), and blame it on the rest of the political establishment.

The Hegelian dialectic strategy being imposed by the progressives does require a "thesis/antithesis" to advance, but neither has to actually be sincere, the whole point is the 'synthesis' which is advanced as the true agenda.

Still, I have to say I'm disappointed and increasingly alarmed by the failure of leading candidates to recognize that Trump doesn't actually want to win. The inability to recognize that is indicative of being so personally attracted to power as to be incapable of understanding anyone who is (very reasonably) seeking to avoid it. It reminds me of how disgusting it was when everyone attacked Sarah Palin as a political competitor instead of recognizing her as a cheerleader who wanted to put someone else in power. Donald Trump could be almost the opposite of Palin, most significantly in that his entire goal is to make conservatives look bad rather than help them win, but the similarity is that we have a bunch of politicians who can't comprehend the existence of someone with a lot of political influence not using it to advance their own candidacy.

It's pathological, and dangerous, and if it were an actually meaningful contest I'd still refuse to support anyone who doesn't recognize that Trump has perfectly reasonable motives for not winning election, and he's following them...despite the fact that Trump is the only one who appears to understand that (oh, the irony). Fortunately/Unfortunately, the election process is a travesty and Trump isn't quite dumb enough to win it by accident. He's going to lose, and whoever wins will be worst of everyone running in the only ways that actually matter, her irrational desperation for political power and her willingness to seize it by any means available.

Americans used to be willing to actually do something to stop such people from being in power.

Anonymous said...

God bless you Dutchman. You are in my prayers - I dearly hope that you are not suffering - May God comfort and strengthen your brave soul. All the Best.

Anonymous said...

@JesseJames87: If you're willing to look at the math, Trump's Healthcare plan will fix the deficit. See

tayronachan said...

Anon @ March 6, 2016 at 2:53 PM, said...
"This is not a cult of personality for Trump. Trump is not just our candidate, he is a murder weapon and the intended victim is the establishment GOP."

Exactly. I'll vote for him because he is, I hope, a WMD pointed at the GOP elite, and the so called "status quo". A dangerous WMD for the handlers (that would be us) to be sure. I wonder what his reaction to another Bundy Ranch would be?

I think the conditions that prevail across the nation will continue to push more "Trumps" forward.

tayronachan said...

jessejames87 said...@ March 6, 2016 at 11:04 PM

Well said.

tayronachan said...

Anonymous said...
@March 7, 2016 at 3:28 PM

Holy shit. Where did that hate come from? That kind of stuff is bad for you man, it'll kill you. Get help.

I assume that message was for Mike V. I guess if Mike V. is a "hater", then that makes the rest of us "haters" also, and hundreds of thousands more I reckon.

Anonymous said...

Whole lot of crazy in the comments above. You Trump haters have not only lost your minds, you're not even honest. You as one all kinds of attributes to any one supporting Trump that are not true and have never even been stated. I don't know one person supporting Trump who thinks he is wonderful. Nobody thinks he's a conservative. What he IS is the ONLY guy talking about the debt, stopping immigration, terminating bad trade deals, repealing Obamacare, etc. Maybe he can? Maybe he will? Great! And if he doesn't, well then, we will just have this fucking civil war then won't we? See friends, THAT is where we are headed anyway. Once you realize that, it doesn't really matter who is elected. Might as well give Trump an opportunity to at east try to do those things that are good for America that no other candidate will even mention. And you Cruzbots - it's amazing how much of what you say about Trump supporters is true about yourselves. Cruz ain't eligible. Why are you ignoring that? Cruz is establishment, no matter what he says. Look at HIS background. He's a liar and a cheat - be you think he's a savior. Did I mention he isn't constitutionally eligible? That isn't trolling. That is fact. I don't what it is about Trump that evokes such a reaction - enough that you people are comfortan comparing him to Hitler? I suspect it is because ultimately Trump is not your "brand" - read "typical smooth talking establishment politician" and your mind cannot handle the reality of that. Trump will win. If he fails to deliver - no loss. I'm not banking on a miracle - I'm banking on a civil war. Trump and his ability to destroy the establishment - as he is clearly doing - is our only chance, however slight - to avoid a total meltdown. Now do you understand? Trump supporters are entitled to this perspective, even if you don't agree with it.

Anonymous said...

I said I was done, but I have one comment to make on it. I am done because you chose to join the circus and play the game of politics. You don't want change, you love this status quo and fear the change that must come by destroying the establishments constructs.

We cannot as a NATION move forward at all while playing the left right false paradigm and vilify the ONE person that is not establishment (whether he brings the rotten structure down or not, you cannot heal the diseased nation without cutting our the cancer killing it.

You had the opportunity as a LEADER to cut a new trail and focus on helping people PREPARE for the tyranny to come, to be EFFECTIVE against it. I made that known in many of my posts. It wasn't about playing fake candidates and name calling game but instead using your leadership to focus your readers and being better SOLDIERS against the rotten empire of status quo. If you remember at one time I told you that. You have their attention put it to good use to be a solution with your resolve. instead you turned this around at me for being "disgruntled". I didn't waste the created opportunity, my message was always the same. I commented about training and readiness and intel gathering and OPSEC matters consistently EVEN WHEN I INSULTED PEOPLE for being fair weather "patriots", it was to shake their solid stand in their brainwashing that the know it all already 9which is why they so little understand Jade Helm and HOW it was used in Burns Oregon, and very effectively at that.

I talked about honest self assessments and talking to one self in the mirror to help people reason out their beliefs and values and what they will settle for and what they REASONABLY can do and know. You had the stage, you had their attention, and you turned it into another squawk box equivalent to the Mainstream media. A waste, really. That's why I am done. I talked about strategic and tactical analysis, alternate secure communications. I talked about studying masters in understanding strategy and tactic, and the wisdom of survivors of effective police state tactics.

I quit, because you did. The article that got my attention long ago had to do with your call to get the addresses of the traitors that put up legislation about Gun Confiscation, and you stand very similar to Charlton Hestons (From my cold dead hands...). That is an old memory and you are not that person anymore. Don't "Vaya Con Dios" me, I didn't pass on the opportunity to LEAD, instead I get to sidestep the disaster coming so I don't become a casualty of it, because I think my focus is RIGHT on it, and I study human psychology in action and not theory. I want to survive it, I want to see it won for the RIGHT reasons and that doesn't include a play acting faction of the status quo.

I don't have to start a blog, I was contributor to yours and its success and now its failure, but it is far too late to start anything else in an apathetic country that will step off, REGARDLESS who is "elected", into civil war this year , so polarized we have become. You could have helped to create winners for the right reasons, but where you are now and your focus is on the WRONG stuff. Good luck to you, I hope your band of 3 percenters with the catechism you proclaimed, can make more out of that war than just a pile of casualties, but hey are busy now playing the same circus act, involved in being spectators and players in smear the puppet instead of focused on being warfighters whose common ideal would be the Constitution they claim to support but know nothing about. Talk a great game, and then dismiss me condescendingly, great example for your followers to see.

Sign Me, Neal Jensen

Anonymous said...

This fight is about the black disease of communism sweeping the country, setting itself up for an autocratic hold on power. Then a true capitalist shows up and the anti-communist crowd has a problem with him? I just don't get it. Here's a guy who can beat the liberals like rented mules! WTF?

Chiu ChunLing said...

Mike, I think you're focusing on the wrong things but I don't think you're on the wrong side...or more particularly I don't think you're against the right side.

There is no "right" side in appealing to electoral politics with a system as corrupt, broken, and illegitimate as ours. People getting worked up about Trump need to cool off and reserve their vitriol for progressives...but that's true whether they're 'for' or 'against' Trump.

I've said before (and I'll probably say again) that I'm pretty tolerant of Trump supporters because by and large I believe that they are angry enough to start shooting if the system refuses to become more accountable. They're generally the quickest to come 'round and have a reasonable discussion about what to do if violent revolution is the only viable means to preserve liberty. I've had some go rounds with Trump supporters, but what really sets them off seems to be people trusting any of the other candidates...they don't much like or trust Trump themselves, and they'll admit it readily if you'll admit the same of everyone else running (just my personal experience, but I've sampled a LOT of political arguments).

But I'm also tolerant of people who are against Trump on the same basis. It's just rarer, is all. For all the media hype about Trump's true believers, I've never found one yet...including Trump himself. But I've gotten flak from a lot of true believers of some other candidates, and honestly I can see why "I support so-and-so" could be a red flag for someone who has met a lot of true believers. Trump pretends to be seriously running to upset the Republican establishment, and 'his' supporters pretend to be seriously invested in him to upset the entire political/media establishment, but if you decline to defend the legitimacy of the current system they'll generally (always, in my experience) stop pretending (including Trump).

TRex said...

Take it easy Sir.

I don't like Trump all that much, and I dislike Hillary intensely,
but ultimately God is in charge, and His will WILL be done.

Take care.