Stolen Valor: Ryan Payne Exposed as a Fraud.
A US Army Ranger Exposes Ryan Payne
Jim White, of Northwest Liberty News, interviewed Danny Harrington, a former Ranger, (Class of 8-85; 1st BN 83-88) who vetted Ryan Payne, who claims to have been a Ranger. Ryan Payne, if you recall, claims to be the head of security at the Bundy Ranch, and made several claims, on video, claiming he was a Ranger. Truth be told, Ryan Payne was not a Ranger, having never gone to Ranger School. Making false claims is not the way to be a trusted leader. Rangers don’t like people who have never been Rangers claiming to have been one.
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Nice.
I say he's a sociopath, not a fed plant.
I cannot wait to see a certain someone come back here now to pump his blog full of "facts" telling us all how wrong Mike is about this.... And complain about all the anonymous posts....
Oh hey Alan Colmes, take note. Mike V tells the honest truth and you would be wise to play it straight - lest you experience the burn of your own self dizzying spin.
Thank God for the ultimate Hand Bill format called the internet. Let truth flow!
It seems to me that it is impossible that .gov does not know exactly who this guy is. This should become much more obvious since the fbi has decided to pursue all those who supposedly "pointed' guns at the cops, who are much more accustomed to having their guns pointed at women and kids. If he is not targerted and id'ed he therefore must be one of them, as some suspect.
So is the FBI gonna "investigate" this development?
Let the ball ripping begin.
yeah,the more I ponder it, the more I think he's a sociopath. I've seen guys like him close up, done real background checks on them.
He's in Montana for a reason. My guess is that he'll have an arrest records as a minor for small stuff, maybe fraud. Bad credit history, etc. If he has a military record, it may show him being transferred from station to station before they booted him out on some pretext.
Well now, isn't this a shocker. Not.
I mean, seriously, I could see Ranger Bat from my old barracks room at Ft. Lewis back in the day, so that basically makes me a Ranger, right? According to that re-re's logic it does. Hell, first piece of advice I was given was to secure my stuff. Second piece of advice was "Stay away from Ranger Bat, especially in uniform. They will beat the hell out of you because big army took their beret."
Yep. I only walked by there in civvies, and kept my head strait and eyes down. Rangers are something I don't want to mess with.
I want to thank Mr. Harrington and SFC Hester for the tab check. Curious to see what comes of this.
Also, as an idea(and something I've been planning on doing anyway), keep a current(ish) ERB/ORB(or other service equivalents) or DD-214 in the wallet, lightly redacted for SSN(and maybe security clearance stuff. Dunno, not sure I want people knowing what my clearance is). At least that way, I can flash that and my ID and I can VERIFY I am who I say I am, as well as prove what I'm saying.
And just because us 11B's use a Ranger Handbook all the time doesn't mean we consider ourselves as such. Just means that we have a smaller reference guide to all sorts of high-speed stuff, alot of it slightly different than FM 7-8.
ZR
Moreover, Corps headquarters do not have LRP assets. They were a Division only unit. I know in the 101st, you needed to "try out" for it. Slection to the company would give you access to Ranger, Pathfinder, etc. but typically you would already have to have it as the material covered in the selection process was from those schools.
He stinks. The situation stinks. And the Oathkeepers own the stink for not being more firm in vetting this clown before he built up steam. Lessons learned.
He meant Power Ranger ... go go Power Rangers !!!
You do everything you can to undermine and destroy the liberty movement. As you have worked tirelessly to destroy the Bundy ranch Militia's cohesiveness and trust in each other, while promoting enemy law enforcement infiltration units like "constitutional sheriffs" and Oath Keepers. Mike in the last year you have made yourself one of the worst enemy's we have, working to destroy everything you claim to support, and you can't understand why you are as popular with the militia as Obama, and have the credibility of Alex Jones. You will die soon and rid us of your drivel, G_D speed the day.
Looking from the outside in, it seems Payne is pretty well accepted by the Bundys as the militia leader. Jerry DeLemus seemed fine taking a back seat to his authority in that ridiculous circle-jerk video too, as did the rest of the lesser-known jerkers. I'd like to ask Mike or anyone else who was/is there, will the Bundy's acceptance of Payne be likely to change because of this new information? And even if it does, who among his followers has the credibility to take over leadership if they couldn't even see such an obvious phony up close and personal?
While I believe that Oath Keepers got short-shrift in the power-struggle (or whatever one wishes to call it), and I accept their side of the stories much more so than the militia's, they are not well-suited to take over militia-type duties. Stewart Rhodes has said publicly during this event that OK'ers are not a militia. The same is stipulated in their Mission Statement. At least some, if not most, of their membership will not only have personal divided loyalties, but statutory divided loyalties as well if they are active duty military or law enforcement. Such folks could not credibly be put on the front lines to face down their on-duty contemporaries.
My point is, where does the Bundy Ranch Siege go from here now that the militia's leadership has been marginalized? Doesn't matter how perfectly justified and necessary the marginalizing was/is, there is a void of leadership now, and I wonder if that doesn't signal an end to the non-family and real friends of the family participation there. Any insight would be appreciated.
CzarChasmIII
Guy wishing Mike dead: Why not just refute his post and prove Ryan is a Ranger? If you have proof, he & OK will look pretty silly. You can, right?
If this berk is going to lie about being a Ranger, what else is he lying about? Certainly doesn't inspire trust.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=WO8aICKhyDY
The "Bundy ranch Militia's cohesiveness and trust in each other" was eroded by Payne as he pursued his own agenda.
Hi Mike,
From the sounds of anymouse at 0530 he's "Payne." Either that or one of scary Harry's script writers. 'Anybody have any photo's of this Payne character, better yet videos so we can see how he walks and talks?? 'Should be something from the Bundy ranch??
To paraphrase Fred Blasie,"Guys like this Payne fella are a dime a dozen, I'm still lookin for the guy supplyin' the dimes!" Go to Chuck and Mary Shantags' site POWnetwork and check out their list of frauds!! Like I said, they'r a "Dime a Dozen!"
BSBD,
III%,
skybill-out
If he is a .gov plant he almost certainly a sociopath.
Payne being hyped on Drudge regarding Utah move.
The usurper himself is directing traffic by what amounts to a plant or a useful idiot acting like one.
At this point I find myself wondering if this poser is the Adam Kokesh replacement......
Sad to see Drudge harming his own credibility on that note.....
What have we all gained by ripping each other apart like retarded idiots????
You bash the NRA, you bash the militia, you bash oath keepers . . .you are all doing the federal thugs a great service...letting them know exactly how stupid and inept we all are.
We are going to get exactly what we deserve t=from these thugs . . . complete destruction.
Thank you all, you too Mike.
Keep exposing these frauds as they marginalize our efforts. Rip the damn uniform off of their backs.
"Rangers don’t like people who have never been Rangers claiming to have been one." You understated that, right? LOL!
"You bash the NRA, you bash the militia, you bash oath keepers . . .you are all doing the federal thugs a great service...letting them know exactly how stupid and inept we all are"
May 9, 2014 at 6:12 PM
Bash the NRA? Yes, when they endorse "Assault Rifle" legislation and His Balless, Harry Reid. Bash the militia? Not that I am aware of. I am guessing you are new here. Might do some homework before pointing that particular finger. The Oathkeepers? Apparently you have reading comprehension problems. Criticism of a situation that needed criticizing, (cuz, ya know, that is how we grow) is not bashing.
I guess there is a reason that the GOA, Militia, and Oathkeepers go to Vanderboegh and not you for advice.
I served in LRSC with this guy back between 2004 to 2006 at Fort Bragg. At that time I remember him being a stand up dude; however, he was in another platoon, so I did not truly know him.
I actually served with him at Fort Bragg between 2004 to 2006. He was in another platoon, but from what I remember he was a stand up guy.
Obviously...things change. It is sad to see this (for me). I hope everything in his life is okay. I don't agree with saying he was a Ranger and all so don't come after me guys. I'm not condoning what he did.
Dunske: Nope. Not good enough. Nice try though.
Let's take a look at that DD 214 and then we can consider your bona fides. After that, I would love to see the same coming from your Battle.
Go ahead and send it in to Mike with PII redacted. I'll wait.
To the Anonymous above- every Division LRSD in the Army was deactivated by 2004 as the divisions went modular. The 101st's LRSD was used to cadre the second pathfinder company that was put in 159th Aviation Brigade.
There are brigade scout companies (two platoons, three teams per) in the RSTA squadron scout company in the infantry brigades. Pathfinders have a limited recon ability. And at Corps level, in the Corps MI brigade (now called a Battlefield Surveillance Brigade), there is a recon company that was made out of the old Corps LRS companies like E or F/51.
But the LRS guys and Rangers were only the same thing for a few years in Vietnam. That family tree was divorced in 1974.
> That family tree was divorced in 1974.
Translation - Payne is deliberately misleading people with mention of "18th Airborne", most likely so he can claim he never SAID he was a ranger if he's caught out.
Scammer, scammer, scammer.
I don't understand why anyone would lie about service if they really served. Why not just be proud of what you DID do? I spent my four years in places like Korea and Afghanistan doing Intel stuff. That's it. Nothing super high speed but I got to do some stuff that I thought was cool and my importantly, I went and made a difference for my country. Now why can't that be good enough for people like Payne? What's the reason to claim Rangers and SF and ten deployments and Purple Hearts and Silver Stars and all that? People like that didn't have honor and integrity to begin with.
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